Green Lasers Fell From the Sky in Hawaii

Perhaps it was Starlink performing tests and calibration…..imo

Is Starlink using lasers yet?

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For real though, this happened back in January. Did it take 7 months for the fires to start?

I agree!
I bet US gov did this. a targeting test.
They are tracking things smaller than your fist.
Was that US space spy space ship up at the time?

originally posted by: incoserv

originally posted by: JamesChessman
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Which means that... nobody knew exactly where the lasers came from.
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Or more likely, they are lying through their teeth and intentionally obfuscating.

Were I a betting man, that's where I'd put my money.

a reply to: JamesChessman
Tin foil hat time.......... after all the flap over UAPs and disclosure, somewhere I stumbled across a report that the Chinese had partially back engineered a UAP that was supposedly designed for some type of geophysical function using a beam of light. It was stated the Chinese had emulated the UAP's geophysical operation by implementing green lasers for the data acquisition from geophysical targets. Dunno... can't recall the source of the reports so take it for what you will.

Well, a few responses:

— I wasn’t thinking about the wildfires, or suggesting a connection, but apparently, that’s what many people are thinking of, right away.

— I thought the lasers came from a moving object like a satellite or plane. But it’s actually a good question, if they came from a different kind of source, like maybe a stationary object, with its laser guns, actually moving or spinning. Or a giant stationary ship, or a giant formation, firing off several different lasers in sequence, maybe.

— I don’t know IF the lasers were actually VISIBLE to the human eye: It’s possibly NOT visible lasers, that were only visible to the star-telescope. Like how TV remote-controls shoot invisible infrared beams, which just happen to be visible for CAMERAS, but are otherwise invisible.

— That seemingly… curved arc, of the lasers: I think it’s actually a curve of clouds, that makes the shape. That is, I don’t think the laser shots really had a curve to them. I think they were probably just identical diagonal laser shots, from one source that was flying by, probably: whether satellite or plane etc.

— I think the lasers are only showing up in the clouds, that’s why we don’t see them across the whole sky. Because the lasers need clouds to shine on, and become visible (for the camera, if not also the human eye). If anyone has ever looked at 9/11 theories, this concept is a HUGE part of that whole mess: the concept of images/ holograms being projected… onto the massive plumes of smoke. The concept is that such projections need CLOUDS for it to shine onto and become a visible image. So this recent case of green lasers, shining in the clouds, seems to confirm that general concept of shining/projecting images onto clouds…

originally posted by: nugget1
I recall a similar video shortly after the fires in Canada happened in sequence all at the same time.

If nothing gets said on the MSM it quickly fades from everyone's mind. Well, almost everyone's. ATS'ers are like anal-retentive pit bulls; we'll never let it go and drag this schitz up years later.

What fires in Canada are you talking about? It's a big country, lots of fires this year just curious, I wouldn't mind seeing the video

a reply to: JamesChessman


Green Lasers Might have Fell From the Sky but they Did Not Cause the Fire Storm on Maui , On the Ground ARSON Did the Bidding..........

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: JamesChessman


Green Lasers Might have Fell From the Sky but they Did Not Cause the Fire Storm on Maui , On the Ground ARSON Did the Bidding..........

^I agree that there's no reason to think that the green lasers, have any connection to the wildfires. I was not even thinking of that, when I made the thread and vid.

Also, I wasn't following the news closely enough to hear about arson; I would have thought the fires were mainly just from the dry conditions, plus the recent heat wave.

(Funny enough, the heat wave... was ruining my car's functioning, but only during the specific weeks of the heat wave. So obviously, I know that it actually can have real-world effects, such as fires, and ruining cars, lol.)



...Allegations of arson kind of seems like looking for a scapegoat, which might not even exist, because the fires were probably inevitable, with the recent dryness and heat wave, I think.

By the way, wildfires are actually part of NATURE regulating itself occasionally. (But apparently it went completely out of control recently, so that's the problem that they lost control of it, but Hawaii is probably always going to have similar wildfires occasionally, as part of nature's cycles to burn away old brush, once every so often...)

a reply to: JamesChessman

It's a message from ET , the length of each laser pulse denotes a note which when transcribed to a keyboard plays the tones from Close Encounters to let us know what they are.

Or it's a Chinese satellite but I think that's less likely.

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: nugget1
I recall a similar video shortly after the fires in Canada happened in sequence all at the same time.

If nothing gets said on the MSM it quickly fades from everyone's mind. Well, almost everyone's. ATS'ers are like anal-retentive pit bulls; we'll never let it go and drag this schitz up years later.

What fires in Canada are you talking about? It's a big country, lots of fires this year just curious, I wouldn't mind seeing the video

You haven't heard about the fires that swept across Canada starting in March?!! They've swept across the whole country and are still burning! Thousands and thousands of people have been displaced, millions of acres have burned and they're still going.

YouTube has tons of videos and your preferred search engine can bring you up to speed.

Actually, I said something inaccurate about the lasers: I referred to the laser beams probably all being the same diagonal shot, from a moving object like a satellite etc.

Which might be true, but from the telescope camera's perspective, the laser beams actually all have DIFFERENT ANGLES shooting down.

...Which might just be a result of SAME laser shots, looking DIFFERENT, because they were fired so close to the telescope, that its perspective, is creating all the different angles.





...So I think it's either that, OR the laser beams were actually FIRED AT DIFFERENT ANGLES, which makes the source object seems a lot more mysterious, I think. (Assuming that the attributed NASA satellite / Chinese satellite, would fire off lasers at the SAME angle, repeatedly.)

...So then the question becomes, what kind of mysterious object would fire off DIFFERENT ANGLED lasers, like that?






I think this is worth contemplating. Are the beams at different angles, as they appear, or are they the same angle, just with perspective making the same angle, look different?

originally posted by: JamesChessman

The actual event was just a series of lasers, which shot down, from the sky, in about a second, which was recorded by the star-telescope.

The original vid from the space telescope:

If I remember correctly Phage lives on one of those islands has he checked in or posted recently ?

originally posted by: JamesChessman
...Which might just be a result of SAME laser shots, looking DIFFERENT, because they were fired so close to the telescope, that its perspective, is creating all the different angles.

I'm not seeing the different angles you talk about. The beams look more or less parallel to me, but I assume they are unlikely to be exactly parallel. My assumption is that Earth-facing satellites making measurements of the earth might keep their instruments pointed "down" where "down" means toward the center of the Earth.

If a LEO (Low Earth Orbit) satellite orbits the Earth every 90 minutes for example, that means the angle of the satellite is changing so it does a 360 degree turn so it can always be pointing down during the 90 minute orbit. So 360 degrees every 90 minutes means 360/90= 4 degrees of change every minute, if the orbit is roughly circular.

If the angle is changing 4 degrees per minute, the angular change per second is 4/60 degrees/s or about 7 hundredths of a degree in the approximately 1 second video of the green lasers, which is too small an angle to detect visually, which is why the lines look more or less parallel to me.

But if you try to measure the lines on a screen capture, there is perspective to deal with, but sometimes our minds can deal with that. For example, train tracks can appear to be angled together as they get more distant but we know they are parallel so our minds can sometimes adjust for the perspective effect, and see them as parallel.

I was discussing the kink in these tracks in another thread, but if we ignore the kink, do the tracks look parallel or don't they? Maybe it depends on the person and whether or not their brain compensates for perspective? We know they are parallel, even though they may seem to get closer together in the distance if we don't account for perspective.

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
If I remember correctly Phage lives on one of those islands has he checked in or posted recently ?

Phage made 4 posts on May 4 2023, so he survived the green lasers in January! Before that made a bunch of posts on Dec 16 2022 so he's posting rather infrequently these days.

Upon further review……The Chinese Daqi-1 using LiDAR may be the source….

Hawaii Green Laser Beam Not From NASA's ICESat-2 ATLAS But China's Daqi-1's ACDL

A China Long March 4C rocket launched the Daqi-1 mission on April 15, 2022, according to Rocket Launch. It is equipped with five remote sensing instruments, including atmospheric detection lidar, a high-precision polarization scanner, a multi-angle polarization imager, an ultraviolet hyperspectral atmospheric composition detector and wide-field imaging spectrometer to improve global carbon monitoring and atmospheric pollution monitoring.

Daqi 1 (DQ 1, AEMS 1)

What caused the 'mystery' green laser wall in Hawaii?

However, the NAOJ’s website states that “Anthony J. Martino, a NASA scientist at the ICESat-2 team, and his colleagues led by Alvaro Ivanoff found that the laser lights were most likely from Daqi-1, a Chinese atmospheric environment monitoring satellite”.

Developed by the Shanghai Academy of Spaceflight Technology (SAST) and launched in April 2022, Daqi-1 is the world’s first satellite capable of detecting CO2 using lidar, according to SAST. Designed to work in a sun-synchronous orbit of 705km, SAST says the 2.6-tonne vehicle has five remote sensing instruments – atmospheric sounding lidar, high-precision polarisation scanner, multi-angle polarisation imager, ultraviolet hyperspectral atmospheric composition detector and a wide-range imaging spectrometer.

Each pulse (blue +’s), of the basic illustrated example below, of the LiDAR would be a separate laser line……and at the high revolution speed of the sweep scan ….it would look like a wall of multiple green laser beams……when it’s actually one laser beam.



LiDAR Sweep scan using aircraft ……it would be the same sweep scan using a satellite with a green laser LiDAR system.



Chinese Daqi-1



If the U.S. isn’t claiming it…..then I’ll put my money on the Chinese…….

As for UFO’s and “advanced” Aliens…..not in the running…imo….why use what would be ancient laser tech to them.

Food for thought…

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a reply to: Arbitrageur

The lasers are not parallel, at least in the star-telescope's view, the left side lasers are pointing down-left, and the right side are pointing down-right.

Yes, I said it might just be perspective, from the telescope being so close to the object shooting lasers.

Either way, the telescope footage shows different angles of laser beams. (And probably, it's just perspective... unless the lasers just MIGHT be actually slightly different angles, which is what it looks like, in the footage...)

The actual event was just a series of lasers, which shot down, from the sky, in about a second, which was recorded by the star-telescope.

The original vid from the space telescope:

I live in Hawaii. I posted (not on here) about the Green Lasers months back. They occurred on the Island of Oahu and was also reported by local news outlet KHON2. I also posted (not on here) video and still pictures of two missile launches. One was reported as a test (verified), the other I was not able to verify but has the distinct trail of one. Happened just before 5AM an 15 minutes later had mostly dispersed and dissipated.

There is live video of the lasers happening, and most outlets use a fake or wrong still image. Several lasers shot down in a sequence.

The fires in Lahaina (Maui, north west end) were blamed on The Big Island with the wind blowing fire to Lahaina. Now, take this into consideration. There is a 30 mile oceanic body of water between Maui and The Big Island. After that 30 mile trek over water, the "wind blown fire" would have to travel about 70 miles inland over fairly dense forest and suddenly drop down on Lahaina for this theory of blaming The Big Island for igniting Lahaina. And that's the short route.

No idea how it started, but water was shut off so the firefighters couldn't put out any fire. The road was barricaded with all police and firetrucks outside of the barricade, not letting people pass. So people ran to the hills, jumped into the ocean, or drove around the barricades to safety. The Maui EMA chief was asked if he regretted not sounding the sirens, and he said no, he was not. Their website specifically says it is for tsunamis, fires, natural disasters, and other things.

The other thing I'd like to mention is that this all happened under mysterious circumstances. If it was some sort of DEW or laser, it happened during the day, and would most likely not be visible. You can youtube the Hawaii green lasers and look for the KHON2 news video to see what really happened back in late January.

a reply to: JamesChessman

EWrnst Stavro Blofeld. Or his modern day counterpart Bill Gates.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
Each pulse (blue +’s), of the basic illustrated example below, of the LiDAR would be a separate laser line……and at the high revolution speed of the sweep scan ….it would look like a wall of multiple green laser beams……when it’s actually one laser beam.

LiDAR Sweep scan using aircraft ……it would be the same sweep scan using a satellite with a green laser LiDAR system.

Chinese Daqi-1

If the U.S. isn’t claiming it…..then I’ll put my money on the Chinese…….

As for UFO’s and “advanced” Aliens…..not in the running…imo….why use what would be ancient laser tech to them.

Food for thought…

👽☕️🍩

Nice, the moving diagrams are very convincing.

It actually means that the laser beams ANGLES ARE CHANGING, slightly, with each shot.

So it explains the seeming variation in the laser beams' angles, besides the perspective of the camera.

originally posted by: JamesChessman

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: JamesChessman


Green Lasers Might have Fell From the Sky but they Did Not Cause the Fire Storm on Maui , On the Ground ARSON Did the Bidding..........

^I agree that there's no reason to think that the green lasers, have any connection to the wildfires. I was not even thinking of that, when I made the thread and vid.

Also, I wasn't following the news closely enough to hear about arson; I would have thought the fires were mainly just from the dry conditions, plus the recent heat wave.

(Funny enough, the heat wave... was ruining my car's functioning, but only during the specific weeks of the heat wave. So obviously, I know that it actually can have real-world effects, such as fires, and ruining cars, lol.)



...Allegations of arson kind of seems like looking for a scapegoat, which might not even exist, because the fires were probably inevitable, with the recent dryness and heat wave, I think.

By the way, wildfires are actually part of NATURE regulating itself occasionally. (But apparently it went completely out of control recently, so that's the problem that they lost control of it, but Hawaii is probably always going to have similar wildfires occasionally, as part of nature's cycles to burn away old brush, once every so often...)

All it takes is a Road Flare and a Can of Gasoline . Both can be Left and be Completely Consumed by the Fire Leaving No Evidence on the Scene . Sometimes Simplicity goes Unnoticed by just Unaware People........

a reply to: JamesChessman

lasers are cool