Nero fiddles while Rome burns

The United States is very different than it was yesterday. I wouldn't say it has the same gravity as say September 11, 2001 nor December 7, 1941.

Yet the trajectory of our nation will be changed like the days following those. This isn't the 1st time a former president has been indicted. It is the 4th, and it just so happens that they are the same person. What is different has a social component. The mugshot.

It's easy to go with the flow of information and media. The first 3 are easily forgotten, not out of hand, but during normal daily lives. With the image of Trump so pervasive and readily available, all the memes to come, this event wont be easily dismissed.

Americans, we love two things as a culture. Outlaws and Underdogs. The hopeful cherish another, a martyr. One man, like him or not, has achieved a status that will be written about in history and that story is not finished. Not only verbally either mind you but years and years and years of stories and news articles, many that proved to be false, yet still remain among the internet catalogue.

Some here believe that Trump is part of the show. But the heel in a kayfabe match. There is evidence for this, which would include some VERY bad hires, some questionable moves and policies that are directly against the Constitution.

To those folks I ask, are the 4 indictments and 100 or so charges part of that game? Is the jailing of J6 people to this day part of that game? Are all the co-conspirators also part of that game?

The twisted irony, and reason for the thread title is that we can go back to any election and see similar if not identical arguments being made by opposing sides to the problems, be it personnel or machine, with elections and its transparency. I'd go so far as to say with the removal of a timeline, its an overwhelming bipartisan agreed upon issue. Yet nothing was ever done.

So to the rabid haters, I get it. Yet you don't have to agree or even like Trump to understand the actions of a rogue state and how it will directly affect you left unchecked. Hell, I had to swallow quite abit of pride to defend Alex Jones during his billion dollar lawsuits.

In closing I have a few questions to ponder.

Were you at one point anti-war, yet find yourself in support of our spending in Ukraine?

Were you at one point cautions if not skeptical of the intel agencies, bureaucracies and government attorneys yet find yourself giving them your full support to get Trump?

Were you at one point leery of how elections were conducted, counted and reported yet find yourself believing the "safest election ever" tripe?



Or is it (D)ifferent now because....reasons?

a reply to: JinMI

Biden did what no one else could ever do.

They raised Trump to Martyr Status.

That, ironically, is his greatest achievement. Trump was an outsider, an ass, a buffoon, a guy who believed his own narrative.

He was great on some things and screwed up on other things.

Hell, only Jesus was perfect.

But Biden and his DoJ and lackies did something extraordinary.

They elevated Trump.

Not us. Those who voted.

It was all on the Trump haters.

a reply to: JinMI

The United States is very different than it was yesterday. I wouldn't say it has the same gravity as say September 11, 2001 nor December 7, 1941.

Yeah, it's just like the assassination of Lincoln, KFJ, MLK, RFK and Malcom X all rolled into one!
/s

LOL
You're such a drama queen.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

This is coming from an ideologue who's leaders have stated that Jan 6 was worse than 9/11, Pearl Harbor.



I have now made lol at your face!

FACE-LOL

AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JinMI

The United States is very different than it was yesterday. I wouldn't say it has the same gravity as say September 11, 2001 nor December 7, 1941.

Yeah, it's just the assassination of Lincoln, KFJ, MLK, RFK and Malcom X all rolled into one!
/s

LOL
You're such a drama queen.

I didn't say it was like J6......

However, you do bring up a question. Is Trump more likely now or previously to be assassinated?

What if they don't get him on all those charges, does it go up or down?

ETA: Would you like to answer any of my questions while youre here?

a reply to: JinMI

You mentioned something about "rabid haters?"

a reply to: TrulyColorBlind

Yes.

Not to be confused with rabbit haters.

Rabbits are adorable and delicious. How could one hate them?

a reply to: JinMI

Is Trump more likely now or previously to be assassinated?

Neither. His likelihood of assignation is the same as before.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JinMI

Is Trump more likely now or previously to be assassinated?

Neither. His likelihood of assignation is the same as before.

Which is? Just an approximate percentage is acceptible.

a reply to: JinMI

Approximately the same as Obama's risk.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JinMI

Approximately the same as Obama's risk.

All these non answers.

It's almost like you are making an effort to non answer the questions.

I'm guessing it's because the answer makes you look terrible.

But what do I know...

a reply to: JinMI

I get it.
We’ve had 10-15 “free for all” like threads, where everyone has talked over each other, arguing for one side or the other.

You put together a well thought out thread here, obviously hoping to get some serious discussion between warring sides.

You’ll never get them to admit they have any weakness when it comes to Trump and maybe hey, this is an all out assault on not only Trump but regular citizens of this country by people in the government that don’t give a sh!t about either side.

There will never be any remorse, second thoughts or maybe just a “wow, I don’t really think Trump deserves all this”

They are more than happy to make fun of him and his supporters while screaming the whole time how he is Hitler, he has destroyed the country, he is a racist etc.

In my opinion, there is no coming back from this, no coming back from the division they have caused.

Good luck trying to explain facts to them once again, its gonna be tough, if not impossible.

a reply to: RazorV66

You put together a well thought out thread here,

I don't have to sit here and suffer your insults Razor!! ...but I will.


To your point, they can't admit being wrong at this point. Doing so would mean that their entire perspective of themselves and their tribes are completely antithetical to what values they may hold. They'd have to not only admit that they were lied to by establishments they trusted, but they willfully lied to themselves and used that "righteousness" to harm others.

Philosophers and psychiatrist will have plenty of work based on this timeline for generations to come.

a reply to: JinMI

You just don't like my answers, that Trump's risk of being assassinated hasn't changed. He's just as despised now as before. Same with Obama. Same as it ever was, for both of them. Good thing they both have excellent security.

We Americans have seen worse than the indictment and arrest of a former president. We've seen the indictment and arrest of a sitting Vice President and the forced resignation of a sitting president.

The sky didn't fall then and isn't falling now, Chicken Little.

a reply to: JinMI

What you see in the US is an agenda that has been in progress for decades, yes US will burn, sadly but truth, we are close to that point more than ever, democrats and Rinos are fine with a globalization even it if means giving away Americas sovereignty and that is the ultimate goal of globalist.

You see how the nation is been inundate with foreigners that have no loyalties and not patriotism towards the US and do not have much idea of how America used to be, all they know is America is the nation of the freebies and you do not have to work much to get them.

The effort to control media and manipulation of information is blatantly violating our constitutional rights we Americans knows this, but when the judicial system is weaponized to fulfill the globalist agendas it will be no justice at all.

We born Americas are watching the deterioration of the Republic and our constitution, foreigners have not clue what is going on.

The future of America is very dark.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

You just don't like my answers, that Trump's risk of being assassinated hasn't changed. He's just as despised now as before. Same with Obama. Same as it ever was, for both of them. Good thing they both have excellent security.

Interesting that you would claim that O and T are on equal risk footing. Comparing them at all, especially contemporaneously is very telling.

It tells me you know things...yet your ideology prevents you from voicing them....

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JinMI

You just don't like my answers, that Trump's risk of being assassinated hasn't changed. He's just as despised now as before. Same with Obama. Same as it ever was, for both of them. Good thing they both have excellent security.

We Americans have seen worse than the indictment and arrest of a former president. We've seen the indictment and arrest of a sitting Vice President and the forced resignation of a sitting president.

The sky didn't fall then and isn't falling now, Chicken Little.

The sky fell for you guys when Trump was elected, Chicken Little.
And you still haven’t recovered.

a reply to: marg6043

I see it just a little bit different.

Agreeing with all your premises, just not the conclusion. I think we are at our strongest when the road is troubled, humans in general tend to prove this again and again.

Even if all of the foundations of government fail, the Constitution still remains. The American culture, no matter how rusty it may be, still exists.

That can not be easily destroyed.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JinMI

Biden did what no one else could ever do.

They raised Trump to Martyr Status.

That, ironically, is his greatest achievement. Trump was an outsider, an ass, a buffoon, a guy who believed his own narrative.

He was great on some things and screwed up on other things.

Hell, only Jesus was perfect.

But Biden and his DoJ and lackies did something extraordinary.

They elevated Trump.

Not us. Those who voted.

It was all on the Trump haters.

OMG, always playing the victim. Now you're the victim for supporting Trump, eh? It's because people hated Trump that you just had to love him. Good thing we didn't tell you how much we all hate Nazis. Or concentration camps.

And I'm not so sure on only Jesus being perfect. Seems the right trusts Trump over anyone, including Jesus' ordained.


What's it called when you believe one person over everyone else, including your family and friends, and your pastor?

I think it's called a cult.

a reply to: JinMI

Interesting that you would claim that O and T are on equal risk footing. Comparing them at all, especially contemporaneously is very telling.

I don't know why. Two consecutive presidents, diametrically opposite, that both profoundly affected American life. Both fiercely despised and idolized at the same time.