I am so thankful for Air Conditioning

I know it’s a very American thing, but by God I love my air conditioning.

I stepped outside and it felt like a sauna, the air was so thick, so humid and downright uncomfortable.

Sure people can live without air conditioning and they have for many thousands of years, but weeks like this week, how safe, productive can it be?
I heard something the other day that had me SHOCKED. That new air conditioning systems are running 16-30K yes ThOusaNds $$$$
And that they aren’t as good anymore because of the new environmental laws. A lot of the new systems can’t handle running nonstop.

My house was built with one system and it’s really good but our second story is of course hotter. There is one room that has tons of windows, and that’s super hot so we have a supplemental air conditioner up there. It’s one of those floor ones that you just connect to the window. I will say that thing is Amazing. They have come a long way from the boxy window units.

I think about how there are powers going after gas stoves and such, and I wonder will there be a time when they come after our air conditioning or have means to control how much we use. Until then, I’m going to enjoy the icy air cold American indoor air!

a reply to: JAGStorm

Only people who are smart and vote for Joe Biden should be allowed to have air conditioning.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Yep, it's coming...

We have seen a big consumer backlash in 2023 over Biden administration bureaucrats targeting gas stoves, but that could pale in comparison to the coming anger over costly air conditioning regulations.

In fact, that has already begun, making this unusually hot summer even more unpleasant for homeowners needing air conditioner repairs. And things could get downright ugly starting next summer.

The Environmental Protect Agency (EPA) just announced a 40% production cut in 2024 for hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs), the widely used class of refrigerants being targeted for their claimed contribution to climate change. As it is, the modest 10% cut in force today has already caused many HFCs to triple in price, including HFC-410a which is used in most home air conditioners.

www.foxnews.com...

I'm sure there was a thread about this a short while ago.

a reply to: Encia22
It's a good plan if you want to see every blue state in the southwest turn red

That's one way to bring people together... with pitchforks and torches

originally posted by: greendust
a reply to: JAGStorm

Only people who are smart and vote for Joe Biden should be allowed to have air conditioning.

Biden and his cronies want to ban gas stoves....
Your air conditioner will be on the chopping block sooner or later...😂

a reply to: greendust



I hope and pray you are not serious.....

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: greendust
a reply to: JAGStorm

Only people who are smart and vote for Joe Biden should be allowed to have air conditioning.

Biden and his cronies want to ban gas stoves....
Your air conditioner will be on the chopping block sooner or later...😂

It’s ridiculous, with all the power outages!
Can’t have a fire, can’t have a gas stove, but if the power goes out, oh well..

a reply to: JAGStorm

There are urban areas in places that have fairly consistent hot climates and that that have now instigated green zones of trees, water features and parks between and even on the buildings. This has resulted in lower average temperatures of up to 7 degrees.

Urban heat island

Air conditioners merely move the heat around and mechanical inefficiencies actually add to overall warmth.

More people die in heat waves than die in blizzards or floods, but they don't rate them like they do with other weather events.

And it isn't just an American thing.

originally posted by: chr0naut
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And it isn't just an American thing.

I spend a lot of time on a small Mexican village in the mountains. Most homes have at least one unit.

There is a one-room ramshackle adobe that runs an old window unit.

I won't use it, here at work.

The advantage?

Keeps (most) customers from siting down and hanging out for an hour or so.

LOL

We didn't have an air conditioner till I was 11 or so and even then it was just a window AC, stuck in the living room window.

Full time hot humid Georgia, No wonder 90% of the time we were outside and wearing nothing but shorts.

Highly recommend an attic exhaust fan for your second level, mt first home had one and it made a huge difference upstairs

veryshortpier.com...

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: greendust

I hope and pray you are not serious.....

No, he was being sarcastic.

a reply to: putnam6

Same in South Louisiana, but the first was in my grandparent's bedroom. I remember nights when all four grandsons piled on the floor of that bedroom - and it wasn't a big room.

Before the AC unit, all we had there was a massive attic fan, maybe 4' wide. Sucked hurricane force winds through the windows. I can still hear the soundthat of that fan winding up when Mawmaw flipped the switch in the front bedroom closet.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Ha ha, enjoy it while you can.
The EPA is hard at work making air conditioning unaffordable. New regulations are passed every year.


www.northeastairconditioning.com...

Your Considerations for 2023
The upcoming 2023 regulations offer homeowners the opportunity to consider their options as energy efficiency regulations continue to rise. Below are a few considerations.

If you’re buying a new HVAC unit that was manufactured under pre-2023 standards, it needs to be installed before December 31, 2022; any units purchased or installed after will need to meet 2023 specifications.
As previously mentioned, most HVAC units already meet the 2023 regulation requirements, so homeowners do not have to worry about replacing their unit. However, if you’d like to consider what options you have when a R410-A phase-out eventually occurs, please reference our R-22 phase-out article which outlines those options.

Oh and they're coming after window units as well.

www.theverge.com...

Complying with those standards is expected to cost manufacturers around $82.1 million, The Hill reports. After the DOE proposed the rules last year, the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers submitted a comment saying many of the standards for room air conditioners were “too stringent” and would have “a negative, disproportionate impact on low-income households.”

Per usual it's all about global warming when in reality, it is just about population reduction. With the ever more stringent regulations only the uber wealthy will be able to avoid the summer heat. The peons will drop dead of heat stroke.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Awesome, right? We keep heating up the planet with the energy production, transport and usage... But ey that's the #ing 3rd world's problem.
What have they ever done for us?

a reply to: JAGStorm

"You will own nothing and be happy" , not an AC, not a roof over your head (who will be able to afford that eventually) , no car by 2030, no meat / dairy by 2030, empty closets, empty shelves , no fun, no more pleasure. They want us miserable, betting for scaps

a reply to: ancientlight

because you obviously never left your home town. In the world the West is synonymous with: where life is good while we suffer.

So what do you want to do to keep your wealth? Build massive walls around every boarder? Never to leave it. While those countries sell you poisonous products, but cheap.
You think that is a plan? That is what is happening. Nobody wants it.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: JAGStorm

Awesome, right? We keep heating up the planet with the energy production, transport and usage... But ey that's the #ing 3rd world's problem.
What have they ever done for us?

This is what people without air conditioning sound like.. miserable

Me over here, cool as a cucumber 😎

a reply to: JAGStorm

A supplemental fan is a big help. I can raise the AC a couple of degrees with a fan going in the room. Also nice if you're outside barbecuing and can hook one up.

I bought a small $10 table fan that is charged with a usb. I love it and have bought 6 for friends and family. My brother then sent me a little fan which sprays water. It's kinda fun. He sent me this explanation of why it works. Someone mentioned in a previous OP that without AC they would hang a wet sheet with a fan blowing and that helped. Same idea, I'm sure.

Evaporative cooling

Heat kills. God bless air conditioning.

a reply to: chr0naut

There are urban areas in places that have fairly consistent hot climates and that that have now instigated green zones of trees, water features and parks between and even on the buildings. This has resulted in lower average temperatures of up to 7 degrees.

Ever been to St. Louis? It’s a pretty green place, lots of trees. If they did all those thing and reduced the temp 7 degrees that would leave them at a real feel of 103 degrees, so not much help.