Way Of Being.

There is a truth to humans, a way of being. It's true that plant life on Earth relies on sunlight in order to survive and if that sunlight is blocked in any way, plant life will start to die.

We are the same as plants in the sense that our sunlight is being blocked and sure enough we are starting to die. But what is our sunlight? Spirituality.

Christ is our way of being "our sunlight" I always struggled with "love thine enemy" until I realised what He meant, there's a scene in the movie Spartacus where Spartacus is forced to fight his loving friend to the death, but because they're both aware of the bad situation they find themselves in, they are both able to maintain the love they have for each other. We're apart of something that will naturally create conflict, the earth by it's design and our place in it creates enemies, it's intentionally created this way.

We are in a bad situation. If our time here in this material realm is around 120 years max and we spend eternity in the spiritual realm, which realm is actual reality and which realm is not. From the moment we arrived on this planet our whole existence has been that of earthly material survival, spirituality as been an afterthought unless you consider fearing and worshiping God as being spiritual.

Take Islam for example and how as a religion it preaches the complete opposite of what Christ preached, The Quran is Earthly in it's teachings as is The Old Testament, and it's as none spiritual as The Old Testament too. Christ is an afterthought in the Quran even though He's mentioned in the Quran more than Mohammed, nearly all the Muslims I've met are unaware of this fact, clever writing.

a reply to: Cwantas

You do realize that “Christ” is a Greek word for “crossed” right? It’s what happens when we cross our opposing subjective and objective states of consciousness into a single quantum state. Christ is how YOU end the war of opposites within you, not the surname of some mythical character named Jesus. It’s not rocket science if you’re willing to put the Koolaid the church has been serving you down for a minute.

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a reply to: Cwantas

The Old Testament isn’t earthly, it’s not non spiritual either
You may be a bit confused, the OT is very spiritual, but just as you stated, like modern life. The OT was based on a theocracy, balancing the spiritual with the secular in a functioning political system, a legal and moral society with ongoing rules and justice to be served.

That’s why Jesus didn’t get mixed up in politics or state enforced regulations, it wasn’t His purpose
Christianity is not about changing others but changing yourself

To say the OT isn’t spiritual is denying its whole purpose

originally posted by: HeirHeart
a reply to: Cwantas

You do realize that “Christ” is a Greek word for “crossed” right?

No I didn’t, reference, never heard that Christ meant cross in Greek, also can’t find any references or etymology to suggest such either
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Be grateful if a source were to appear to make your statement valid

originally posted by: HeirHeart
a reply to: Cwantas

You do realize that “Christ” is a Greek word for “crossed” right? It’s what happens when we cross our opposing subjective and objective states of consciousness into a single quantum state. Christ is how YOU end the war of opposites within you, not the surname of some mythical character named Jesus. It’s not rocket science if you’re willing to put the Koolaid the church has been serving you down for a minute.

You might want to look at Strong's Concordance....no mention of your claim.... "Christ" has to do with being anointed.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Cwantas

The Old Testament isn’t earthly, it’s not non spiritual either
You may be a bit confused, the OT is very spiritual, but just as you stated, like modern life. The OT was based on a theocracy, balancing the spiritual with the secular in a functioning political system, a legal and moral society with ongoing rules and justice to be served.

And yet no one has ever entered Heaven because our designed nature is so that balancing the spiritual with the secular in a functioning political system is beyond us and contradicts our spiritual nature.

There is a time for everything. There are times for explanation, education and comfort. Most of all, you are able, you are capable, there is no reason to fear and worry.

a reply to: Cwantas

We are in a bad situation. If our time here in this material realm is around 120 years max and we spend eternity in the spiritual realm, which realm is actual reality and which realm is not. From the moment we arrived on this planet our whole existence has been that of earthly material survival,

A bad situation? Maybe not. Yes, we are enmeshed in this physical plane and in so being in this manner obfuscates our ability to realize our larger more complete existence, but I don't know as it is necessary to separate the two, physical realm and spiritual realm into two different things. Can it not be that there is only one realm, the spiritual realm? And that this physical existence is just one aspect of this over all spiritual realm? Like only one room of the many rooms in Heaven.

So I ask, why would we be ''here'' when we might just as well be in our larger spiritual reality. There are many ideas about why. Some say it's punishment, some say it's for education. Some say that this is the place where new souls are born and that the life, or lives spent here are developmental periods for a soul to actively exist fully in the large spiritual realm.

I don't know the answer or answer to all of that but can merely utilize my human capacity to speculate. One thing though that is strong in my thinking is that for some reason, whatever that reason is, we are here undergoing those struggles you brought up in the OP for a reason, for a purpose. That there is something unique, something special about this place, this aspect of existence that places us here, or calls us here to exist for a time. The question in this regards is how well do we spend this ''time''. Maybe that's it, maybe this is the place in existence where time is important. I don't know, I can only surmise.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Cwantas

whatever that reason is, we are here undergoing those struggles you brought up in the OP for a reason, for a purpose. That there is something unique, something special about this place, this aspect of existence that places us here, or calls us here to exist for a time. The question in this regards is how well do we spend this ''time''. Maybe that's it, maybe this is the place in existence where time is important. I don't know, I can only surmise.

Take Vlad the Impaler for example. After conducting a series of night raids and guerrilla warfare, Vlad III employed his trademark tactic, impaling more than 23,000 prisoners with their families and putting them on display along the enemy's route, outside the city of Targoviste.“There were infants affixed to their mothers on the stakes,”

Our world history is defined by it's atrocities, atrocities acted upon the innocent, all its ever been for your average man and woman throughout history is fear, wholly consumed by a life where survival takes precedence above all else.

a reply to: Cwantas

Yet even in the face of this world of atrocity people still find happiness, still can be kind and nurturing. My suggestion is that in our larger spiritual existence people, beings ARE happy and kind and nurturing, just that here in this place of such limits and struggle it is hard, make that HARD. And that maybe that is part of why this corner of existence is here.

The past is a newborn who's fate is written and edited mercilessly, the future is pregnant with possibility, the now is like the eternal birth pains of the future.

a reply to: Cwantas

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Cwantas

The Old Testament isn’t earthly, it’s not non spiritual either
You may be a bit confused, the OT is very spiritual, but just as you stated, like modern life. The OT was based on a theocracy, balancing the spiritual with the secular in a functioning political system, a legal and moral society with ongoing rules and justice to be served.

And yet no one has ever entered Heaven because our designed nature is so that balancing the spiritual with the secular in a functioning political system is beyond us and contradicts our spiritual nature.

Except Jesus, fully human...
Who made a way
Opening the door for those who choose...
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Because humanity couldn’t live up to the spiritual side of the Old Testament

The "way of being" is a catching title. Its similar in tone to Taoisms "Tao Te Ching" which means "Book of the Way and Virtue". When you examine Torah and Quran they share a way to interface with our material world. When followed correctly opening doors to higher spiritual states. But in reality all religions are nothing but signposts to a path. They are not the path in itself. Our material universe is the true path. It is the tree of "knowledge" of good and evil. Without experiencing knowledge we could not realize enlightenment through our sensations. To attain full enlightenment, we need experience what it is like to kill and what it is like to be killed, through various avatars, through various life's. That will eventually turn the seven deadly sins (devils) into the seven golden lampstands (angels).

So we cannot love the avatar that kills children. But we can certainly love the hidden and often dormant essence of pure love that exists within the avatar that kills children.

“When the Soul wants to experience something she throws out an image in front of her and then steps into it.”
― Meister Eckhart

a reply to: conspiracytheoristIAM

You might want to reference your intuition, like your own religion tells you to.

a reply to: Raggedyman

You can see it all within you. Isn’t that where your own source tells you to look for it?

If you’re gonna preach, you might want to preach what it actually says and not your own misguided interpretation. It’s not even your own, it’s the cult brainwashing the church stuffed up your ass and down your throat.

Put the internet down and look within you if you ever want to know what that stuff actually means.

originally posted by: Cwantas
.. From the moment we arrived on this planet our whole existence has been that of earthly material survival, spirituality as been an afterthought unless you consider fearing and worshiping God as being spiritual.

I take it you said it that way cause you don't? No wonder then that you view the OT as non-spiritual. According to the Bible though (besides its many warnings concerning counterfeit spirituality, which is what you seem to view as spirituality), a spiritual person is inclined toward God, the opposite of the physical person. Spiritually-minded individuals strive to “become imitators of God.” (Eph. 5:1) This means that they make an effort to have God’s thinking on matters and to look at things from his point of view. God is very real to them. In contrast with fleshly-minded individuals, they try to bring all their ways into harmony with God’s standards. (Ps. 119:33; 143:10) Rather than focus on fleshly works, the spiritually-minded person endeavors to show “the fruitage of the spirit.” (Gal. 5:22, 23)

The apostle Paul helps us to understand what a spiritual person is by drawing a contrast between a “spiritual man” and “a physical man.” (1 Corinthians 2:14-16) What is the difference? The “physical man” is described as not accepting “the things of the spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot get to know them.” On the other hand, “the spiritual man” is someone who “examines all things” and who has “the mind of Christ.” Paul encourages us to be spiritual people. According to the Bible's definitions, you would be a “physical man”, cause you do not seem to accept nor understand the “the things of the spirit of God” that “were written for our [spiritual] instruction” (Rom. 15:4) in the Hebrew Scriptures (a.k.a. the OT). In what other ways do physical and spiritual individuals differ?

Consider first the attitude of a physical individual. The world has a predominant attitude that centers on the flesh. Paul describes it as “the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience.” (Eph. 2:2) This spirit influences most humans to adopt a common attitude​—simply follow the crowd. They are focused on the flesh. As a result, the majority of them do what feels right in their own eyes and make no effort to live up to God’s standards. A physical, or fleshly-minded, person is often excessively concerned about prestige and material pursuits or about defending what he feels are his rights.

What else might identify a physical person? People who engage in any of “the works of the flesh” fall into that category. (Gal. 5:19-21) Paul’s first letter to the Corinthian congregation identifies a number of other characteristics of those who have a fleshly attitude. These include: promoting divisions, taking sides, fostering dissensions, taking one another to court, showing a lack of appreciation for headship, and being self-indulgent in food and drink. When confronted with temptation, the fleshly-minded person weakens and gives in. (Prov. 7:21, 22) Jude spoke of those who would deteriorate even to the point of “not having spirituality.”​—Jude 18, 19.
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Coming back to this notion of viewing counterfeit spirituality (or the opposite of spirituality) as spirituality, and the true spirituality taught in the Hebrew Scriptures, including the worship of God and all it entails, as 'non-spiritual' (i.e. the opposite again), this is what Isaiah 5:20,21 says:

“Woe to those who say that good is bad and bad is good,

Those who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness,

Those who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

Woe to those wise in their own eyes

And discreet in their own sight!” (Isaiah 5:20,21)

“What has been is what will be,

And what has been done will be done again;

There is nothing new under the sun.” (Ecclesiastes 1:9)

“For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the wholesome* [Or “healthful; beneficial.”] teaching, but according to their own desires, they will surround themselves with teachers to have their ears tickled.* [Or “to tell them what they want to hear.”] They will turn away from listening to the truth and give attention to false stories.” (2 Timothy 4:3,4)

“So we should no longer be children, tossed about as by waves and carried here and there by every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in deceptive schemes.” (Ephesians 4:14)

“Look out that no one takes you captive by means of the philosophy and empty deception according to human tradition, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ;” “We have much to say about him, and it is difficult to explain, because you have become dull in your hearing. For although by now* [Lit., “in view of the time.”] you should be teachers, you again need someone to teach you from the beginning the elementary things of the sacred pronouncements of God, and you have gone back to needing milk, not solid food. For everyone who continues to feed on milk is unacquainted with the word of righteousness, for he is a young child. But solid food belongs to mature people, to those who through use have their powers of discernment* [Or “their perceptive powers.”] trained to distinguish both right and wrong.” (Col 2:8; Hebrews 5:11-14)

“However, the inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, whose conscience is seared as with a branding iron.”(1 Timothy 4:1,2).

originally posted by: Cwantas

We are in a bad situation. If our time here in this material realm is around 120 years max and we spend eternity in the spiritual realm, which realm is actual reality and which realm is not.

The philosophy/idea/belief that some immaterial or spirit part of a human being survives the death of the physical body is an example of one of these “false stories”/myths popularized by the “philosophy and empty deception according to human tradition”. “Paying attention to [such] misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons”, has caused people to believe that focusing on that part of them, is what spirituality is all about.

It is built upon (a modification of) the first lie Satan ever told mankind, when he told Eve that she wasn't going to die if she ate the forbidden fruit. Around the time the Babylonian religion became more popular (talking “human tradition” now), it was modified so that the idea now was that the real you won't die when you die (your physical body), but continues living in some other (immaterial) form (consciously).

“The problem of immortality, we have seen, engaged the serious attention of the Babylonian theologians. . . . Neither the people nor the leaders of religious thought ever faced the possibility of the total annihilation of what once was called into existence. Death was a passage to another kind of life.”—The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria (Boston, 1898), M. Jastrow, Jr., p. 556.

Then from there the idea/philosophy spreads in all directions, Egypt, Greece, Persia and beyond. “Egypt, Persia, and Greece felt the influence of the Babylonian religion . . . The strong admixture of Semitic elements both in early Greek mythology and in Grecian cults is now so generally admitted by scholars as to require no further comment. These Semitic elements are to a large extent more specifically Babylonian.”—The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria (Boston, 1898), M. Jastrow, Jr., pp. 699, 700. And that's when the concept of a spiritual soul also comes more to the forefront, especially in Egypt and Greece.

“The Christian concept of a spiritual soul created by God and infused into the body at conception to make man a living whole is the fruit of a long development in Christian philosophy. Only with Origen [died c. 254 C.E.] in the East and St. Augustine [died 430 C.E.] in the West was the soul established as a spiritual substance and a philosophical concept formed of its nature. . . . His [Augustine’s] doctrine . . . owed much (including some shortcomings) to Neoplatonism.”—New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Vol. XIII, pp. 452, 454.

“The concept of immortality is a product of Greek thinking, whereas the hope of a resurrection belongs to Jewish thought. . . . Following Alexander’s conquests Judaism gradually absorbed Greek concepts.”—Dictionnaire Encyclopédique de la Bible (Valence, France; 1935), edited by Alexandre Westphal, Vol. 2, p. 557.

“Immortality of the soul is a Greek notion formed in ancient mystery cults and elaborated by the philosopher Plato.”—Presbyterian Life, May 1, 1970, p. 35.

Myth 1: The Soul Is Immortal (One Myth Leads to Another)

originally posted by: HeirHeart
a reply to: Raggedyman

You can see it all within you. Isn’t that where your own source tells you to look for it?

If you’re gonna preach, you might want to preach what it actually says and not your own misguided interpretation. It’s not even your own, it’s the cult brainwashing the church stuffed up your ass and down your throat.

Put the internet down and look within you if you ever want to know what that stuff actually means.

Why not just admit you made it all up than throw yourself deeper in to this line
I called your bluff, you have nothing but, you still play, why?

a reply to: Raggedyman

Sounds like something a bot would say

Omnipresence develops the presentation of atoms.