The black cube looshery

a reply to: daskakik

" Sure, but what if using your free will you decide to come back? "

Yes you can . I Imagine some Souls get Bored and want to take the Ride Again . That's where Free Will comes in .....



You will be " Guilt Tripped " to Agree on Coming back by your " Life Review " . It is All a Deception , and you Must Figure that Out on your Own .

a reply to: Zanti Misfit
Kinda odd how you can accept that people might return of their own free will and then make an absolute statement that it is done by guilt.

I don't think we are in a position to claim certainty of how/why that choice is made. It could be boredom, or if it is like Monroe says, a school, there could be something to be gained. Heck you might just get frequent flyer miles from it, for all we know.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Zanti Misfit
Kinda odd how you can accept that people might return of their own free will and then make an absolute statement that it is done by guilt.

I don't think we are in a position to claim certainty of how/why that choice is made. It could be boredom, or if it is like Monroe says, a school, there could be something to be gained. Heck you might just get frequent flyer miles from it, for all we know.

Yes , but at Some Point you HAVE To " Graduate " ......

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
Yes , but at Some Point you HAVE To " Graduate " ......

That is only if the school analogy is the right guess and if it is, you will graduate when you get to that point, and if that is your goal, then you don't necessarily need to be guilted into coming back, maybe earning your "bachelor's in space time manipulation" is all the motivation you need to make that choice?

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
Yes , but at Some Point you HAVE To " Graduate " ......

That is only if the school analogy is the right guess and if it is, you will graduate when you get to that point, and if that is your goal, then you don't necessarily need to be guilted into coming back, maybe earning your "bachelor's in space time manipulation" is all the motivation you need to make that choice?

Well, Dummies sometimes get " Left Back " so they Gotta Do the Do Over Until they Finally Pass the Test . No one Imagines being a Sentient Soul is Easy Work .........*)

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
Well, Dummies sometimes get " Left Back " so they Gotta Do the Do Over Until they Finally Pass the Test . No one Imagines being a Sentient Soul is Easy Work .........*)

So? That still doesn't back up the claim you made earlier that it is all deception. If someone is slow they will do over until they pass or maybe there is even an option to drop out of "school".

At the end of the day, there is nothing to indicate deception is used or even needed, except in the prison planet theory, which is just a theory.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
Well, Dummies sometimes get " Left Back " so they Gotta Do the Do Over Until they Finally Pass the Test . No one Imagines being a Sentient Soul is Easy Work .........*)

So? That still doesn't back up the claim you made earlier that it is all deception. If someone is slow they will do over until they pass or maybe there is even an option to drop out of "school".

At the end of the day, there is nothing to indicate deception is used or even needed, except in the prison planet theory, which is just a theory.

Hmm... Ever Hear of the " Archons " ? You Will Encounter them on the Other Side when they Deceive You with Soothing Words as you get Recycled Back to the Prison Planet .Good Luck .............



Well , When You Personally Finally ' Pass On " from this World , ALL Will be Revealed to You . Then you will Know for Sure . Maybe Even See Me ..................






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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
Well , When You Personally Finally ' Pass On " from this World , ALL Will be Revealed to You . Then you will Know for Sure . Maybe Even See Me ...

That applies to you as well, since you're also down it, so when you finally pass on it might be revealed to you that your statements:

Upon Death , the Soul Trap is Engaged . The Tunnel of Light is the Recycler of Souls . If you Enter it , you Come back to the Prison Planet.

and

You will be " Guilt Tripped " to Agree on Coming back by your " Life Review " . It is All a Deception...

might not have been accurate.

It certainly isn't how Monroe described it and that was what was being discussed.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
Well , When You Personally Finally ' Pass On " from this World , ALL Will be Revealed to You . Then you will Know for Sure . Maybe Even See Me ...

That applies to you as well, since you're also down it, so when you finally pass on it might be revealed to you that your statements:

Upon Death , the Soul Trap is Engaged . The Tunnel of Light is the Recycler of Souls . If you Enter it , you Come back to the Prison Planet.

and

You will be " Guilt Tripped " to Agree on Coming back by your " Life Review " . It is All a Deception...

might not have been accurate.

It certainly isn't how Monroe described it and that was what was being discussed.

Well , When it is My Time to Leave this World My Will Power will Compel me to Turn 180 Degrees from the Tunnel of Light and Face Our Vast Universe with Open Astral Arms Because I Will be Wanting to Go HOME to a Higher Density . That Place My Original Soul Traveled From to Come here and have a Visiting Experience in Only a Finite amount of in Our Understanding , TIME...............

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
Well , When it is My Time to Leave this World My Will Power will Compel me to Turn 180 Degrees from the Tunnel of Light and Face Our Vast Universe with Open Arms Because I Will be Wanting to Go HOME , the Place My Original Soul Traveled From to Come here and have a Visiting Experience...............

That is neither here nor there, in regards to what was being discussed.

ETA: It also kinda contradicts what I quoted above, which is why I said earlier that your stance, overall, is "kinda odd".

a reply to: daskakik

" That is neither here nor there, in regards to what was being discussed. "

Yes it Is . You Wanted to Know about the Musings of some Men when it comes to the Experiences in the After Life and I Told You . Believe what You Personally Want to Believe then , Good Night ...........

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
Yes it Is . You Wanted to Know about the Musings of some Men when it comes to the Experiences in the After Life and I Told You.

Wrong, we were originally discussing Monroe's POV. Your personal POV, which oddly matches with his in some spots, is also contradicted by the two statements I quoted earlier. That is what I found "kinda odd".

I had already heard the do a 180 and embrace the universe thing from some YouTube vid in a chat given by a native american in what looked like the 70's. I'm not even disagreeing with you about that part, it is the idea that even if you can now do this, but have been here before, you can't prove the other times you came back it was because you were deceived.

That is what is odd about your stance, you came in here slinging prison planet doomporn but then also argue that participants on this planet can leave at will.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: daskakik

Upon Death , the Soul Trap is Engaged . The Tunnel of Light is the Recycler of Souls . If you Enter it , you Come back to the Prison Planet . Right as you See the Tunnel of Light , Force Yourself by Your Own FREE WILL to Turn Around 180 Degrees and you Will Gaze Upon the Entire Universe then Wish Yourself HOME ........

The only WAY one can reach divinity (union with God, eternal life, salvation, the kingdom of heaven, paradise, etc) is through a human incarnation in the world. It has to be achieved while still alive and nobody "dies and goes to heaven" as we are deceived to believe - "the kingdom of heaven is within you". So if you've died and there's a tunnel of light that is "the recycler of souls" then the only WAY to salvation is to go through it, reincarnate and try at life again. Such advice as you have given is the exact kind that would come from one who does not want souls to be saved and seeks to deceive them to go the wrong way. A child of the lawless one.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
Yes , but at Some Point you HAVE To " Graduate " ......

That is only if the school analogy is the right guess and if it is, you will graduate when you get to that point, and if that is your goal, then you don't necessarily need to be guilted into coming back, maybe earning your "bachelor's in space time manipulation" is all the motivation you need to make that choice?

Well, Dummies sometimes get " Left Back " so they Gotta Do the Do Over Until they Finally Pass the Test . No one Imagines being a Sentient Soul is Easy Work .........*)

"Nobody said it was easy
No one ever said it would be this hard
Oh, take me back to the start"

The Scientist, Coldplay.

The scientist means the faithless. Those who haven't found faith i.e. God have to return to the start after death.

a reply to: StinkyFish

And of Course you Profess that Personally , Right ? That's Nice but......