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UFO WHISTLEBLOWER Claims NOT DENIED By National Security Spox John Kirby

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posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 08:26 AM
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Many here on a conspiracy site still believe that the USA is in a possible false flag mode. Based on how our government works its quite pragmatic to take that position.

However I am not of that position on this issue at this time as this is out and cannot just simply fade away as too many with vetted credentials are publicly speaking to not only Congress, but to the world. So why now? Could be a bunch of factors including the advancement of our own technologies along with cell phones, security cams and AI.

I saw my first UFO's on May 4, 2018 over the Hartwell region of Georgia. There were a total of eight. I filed a report on NUFORC, did an interview on WTAM 1100 Cleveland with Michael Lee Hill on the Mike Mike Trivisonno as what we saw looked exactly like what Hill videoed over Lake Erie. They have returned since as they were over the Savannah River Nuclear Reservation.

IMO they are USA owned and built on reverse technology. Then we have the orange ones.

Here's a screen shot of the May 4 video as it was submitted to The Black Vault and returned to me for comment. John Greenwald Jr. was partially involved. Yes, I wrote back to their investigator Monica, that I am seeing a triangle.



John Kirby isn't a lightweight. Many here who have worked for the Feds know how it goes. What this could be is simple infighting between the US Navy and US Air Force as many agencies fight against each other. I recall one incident that a first hand participant told to me that happened at the pentagon in which desks were flipped, words exchanged and guns were drawn. Just like in the movies. Sheet happens


John F. Kirby (born June 3, 1963) is a retired rear admiral in the United States Navy serving as Coordinator for Strategic Communications at the National Security Council in the White House since late May 2022. He previously served as Pentagon Press Secretary for the first year and a half of the Biden administration, and worked as a military and diplomatic analyst for CNN from 2017 to 2021.[3] He served in the Obama administration as the spokesperson for the United States Department of State from 2015 to 2017.


Here's the John Kirby video

John Kirby



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posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: Waterglass

The orange orbs are intriguing to me. I once saw one hovering over a big city when the sun went down. I am just unsure if it was a helicopter in the low sunlight. I don't think it was, because it looked like it's made from golden fluid with sparkles in it and I heard no sound. But then also, it was a big city and crickets in the newspapers days after it, so probably that.

I do think that many of the unexplained events we see is human made. Imagine it for a second the US or Russia would have a device that can pop up over their major cities in the blink of an eye, what would the US or Russians do preemptively?

It would scare the # out of any countries government and people, especially two countries in a first cold, then silent war.



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 09:29 AM
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a reply to: Waterglass

My money is on the breakthrough in holograms. That and them damned DARPA robots.



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 09:31 AM
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NGL a small part of me believes people such as Kirby and heads of the defense department are running things, completely or at least has areas of responsibility that our President is told of only in the most basic sense. From UAPs to virtually most things under the national security umbrella



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 09:32 AM
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IMO they are USA owned and built on reverse technology.


if you believe the stories, reverse engineering has been going on for nearly 40 years.

Yet we are still flying around in jet aircraft that is based on technology developed 70 years ago.

Reverse engineering ? No



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong
Who said anything about the public getting these technologies?

Israel had remote controlled UAV with handheld LCD controllers in the 70s. When could you buy your first remote controlled UAV with handheld LCD controller walking around with a little sling around your neck and everything at the tip of your fingers? Without a big van with antenna and what not?

Around 2010? Even yet?



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: TDDAgain




Who said anything about the public getting these technologies?


What's the point then ? Apart from a few people having wet dreams.



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 10:10 AM
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What's the point then ?

What the point is? That you and I do not get the news and stuff about new technology. The point is that you didn't know about this until I told you know, yet it is 50 year old tech and you can have it since like 10 years or so.

That was the point. What else do you not know? Do you really think that an invention the military has use for will be released for the better good of humanity?

If that was the case, we would have coatings for H² containers that won't leak. Yet we can't have it because H² bombs are much more efficient if you have the stuff. And the bad guys can't have that, so you can not have secure H² storage.

You're on this conspiracy board for over 12 years now and you ask this question?



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 10:20 AM
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The point is that you didn't know about this until I told you know, yet it is 50 year old tech and you can have it since like 10 years or so.


Normal evolution. We went from the steam engine, to petrol engine, to jet engine and then nuclear.

No alien technology involved.




You're on this conspiracy board for over 12 years now and you ask this question?


it may come as a surprise to you, but not everything is a conspiracy. Only if you want it to be.
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posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong
It does not have to involve alien technology. It could be a simple finding in physics that isn't shared and/or even surpressed. No need for aliens but it could be.

You're not in a position to exclude the possibility. Google the word "absolutes" and how they are proven wrong, most of the time. See, I did not write always. If I had written always, then I would speak in absolutes.



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong

IMO reverse ET engineering from 40+ years ago.



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: TDDAgain




It does not have to involve alien technology.


What's " reverse engineering'" then, when it's mentioned on the subject of UFO's ?



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 10:27 AM
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My money is on the breakthrough in holograms. That and them damned DARPA robots.


That's what we thought back in 2018 so we pointed a Android phone at them with the SkyView app. They came back as unidentified



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: TDDAgain

Reference: Book by Terry Ray. He reports the 1st sighting in the late 1800's. We have seen several here. The last time it was huge and the phone malfunctioned while videoing.


The Complete Story of the Worldwide Invasion of the Orange Orbs Paperback – September 5, 2014
by Terry Ray (Author)



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 10:41 AM
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The problem today is that they know that if one group, a small one at that, ufo enthusiasts, get upset, it won’t budge the powers that be to declassify what they want.

If one thing in our age shows us, even a powerful huge population who wants something not attainable will get it, as politics is showing us now. Certainly, a small group of upset ufo people definitely won’t get what they want.

The OP suggests an inner power struggle; well, that is the only way you can get anything, that is if the side you want wins.



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 10:44 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong

You are almost too simple to have conversation with me.



No alien technology involved.


And I agree with you, on the premise that you know # about past technology and that it does not necessary have to be something (reverse engineered) from alien technology.

At least try stay coherent with the narrative you build yourself. sheeshh...



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 10:48 AM
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a reply to: TDDAgain




You are almost too simple to have conversation with me.


Maybe i should report you to the mods for that insult. It may come as a surprise to you that people can have different opinions from you own.



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong
Please do so if you felt insulted. It was not my intend. The fire will wash my soul free from the guilt I already do not have.

Let me word it different:

At least try stay coherent with the narrative you build yourself, then we can avoid such misunderstandings.

Also, just "almost" :-P


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posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 10:56 AM
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At least try stay coherent with the narrative you build yourself,


Reverse engineering not being about ET which you stated on a thread about UFO'S.
Coherent indeed.



posted on Aug, 20 2023 @ 11:09 AM
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dude what is your exact problem now?

You said it ISN'T alien technology and all I said was, well looking at you now knowing the 1970s example, it does not need to be alien technology.

In other words: No matter what you think: Is it alien or not, you don't even know enough about Earths technologies being hidden from you (the LCD example).

This does not have to be so hard, you know?



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