The Trump Presidency

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut

Just a cursory search.

You spoke often and loudly on the subject from what I remember.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Boom goes the dynamite 🧨

Fizzle more like.

The quoted post did not advocate for people to be locked into their homes.

Uh
You did
And were called out on it
Your support of stalinist Totalitarianism is simply 🤮

I spent some time pondering specifically what is it about when Trump was president that made it so memorable.

I finally straightened it out.

Every day I woke up and knew, down to the marrow of my spirit, today has the potential to be an even better day than the awesome yesterday, and day before and day before.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Uh
You did
And were called out on it
Your support of Stalinist Totalitarianism is simply 🤮

The closest political system to 'Stalinist Totalitarianism' in this world was the Soviet Bloc (that Stalin helped found) and that Putin is trying to re-create.

I am strongly opposed to what Putin is doing, but others are not:

Trump calls Putin ‘genius’ and ‘savvy’ for Ukraine invasion.

a reply to: chr0naut
So
Doesnt mean the buttholes that forced people into their homes were not.
You support that nasty stalinist Totalitarianism is gross🤮

Comrade

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut
So
Doesnt mean the buttholes that forced people into their homes were not.
You support that nasty stalinist Totalitarianism is gross🤮

Comrade

"Forced" people into their homes.

LOL.

(Next ve vil force all da kiddies to eat some sweets, watch TV, und play mit their toys! Bwa ha ha)!

a reply to: chr0naut

www.dossier.today...

Officials have quietly instituted a new draconian measure that forces confirmed and suspected COVID-19 positive citizens and their families into quarantine facilities, with little to no legal or humanitarian recourse available to them.

Yep
Forced

Pretty sick you trying to laugh it off
But stalinists gonna stalin

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut

www.dossier.today...

Officials have quietly instituted a new draconian measure that forces confirmed and suspected COVID-19 positive citizens and their families into quarantine facilities, with little to no legal or humanitarian recourse available to them.

Yep
Forced

Pretty sick you trying to laugh it off
But stalinists gonna stalin

But in New Zealand, quarantine wasn't in peoples homes.

In New Zealand's case, it was fairly comfortable luxury hotels and motels, and was only for people who had traveled internationally, and only for 14 days or less. The whole system was phased out and the emergency legislation overturned by March 2022.

Also, returning to the topic of the Trump Presidency and integrating your posts about Stalin:

Trump is like Stalin with 'enemy of the people' language: GOP senator to say in speech

Trump’s Soviet Approach to Intelligence

6 Disturbing Parallels Between Stalin and Trump

Flake compares Trump’s treatment of press to Stalin’s

Trump’s Stalinist Roots

Armando Iannucci: There are echoes of Stalin in Donald Trump (exclusive)

a reply to: chr0naut
Lol
Trump didnt force people into quarantines

The stalinist totalitarian new zealand government did

With nasty people cheering them on

a reply to: chr0naut

Quick question

How many political enemies did that stalanist Trump put in jail?


Best approximation is fine...

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut

Quick question

How many political enemies did that stalanist Trump put in jail?

Best approximation is fine...

The American political and judicial systems do not allow for Stalinesque pogroms. However, he has tried:

‘Where are all of the arrests?’: Trump demands Barr lock up his foes

Then, there's this:

In 2020, the Trump administration executed more prisoners than all states combined

Was this 'crackdown' because of a genuine concern over crime rates? Or was it motivated by the same sentiments as this:

Donald Trump and the Central Park Five: the racially charged rise of a demagogue?

a reply to: chr0naut

I noticed you didn't answer my question....

The American political and judicial systems do not allow for Stalinesque pogroms.

You are aware that a former POTUS is under indictment with 100 or so charges, right....?

You are aware that there are j6 prisoners currently without trial or bail..right?

You are aware that there is a man name Harrison Floyd who is locked up in GA...rigth?


And here you are trying to whatabout...and failing, miserably.


Face it dude, you're an authoritarian. Might as well own it at this point.

Only one to blame for ‘dividing’ yourself from another person/places/things …is yourself. Carry on though. I know you will.

The Trump presidency? The next one can’t come soon enough

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut

I noticed you didn't answer my question....

The American political and judicial systems do not allow for Stalinesque pogroms.

You are aware that a former POTUS is under indictment with 100 or so charges, right....?

Well, he did seem to believe he was above the law and so he kept doing things that resulted in indictments.

You are aware that there are j6 prisoners currently without trial or bail..right?

It has always been the case that bail is denied when there is either a danger that someone will abscond, or if they represent a real and present danger to the wider community.

You are aware that there is a man name Harrison Floyd who is locked up in GA...rigth?

According to Fulton County Superior Court Judge Emily Richardson, Harrison posed a flight risk as well as a risk to commit additional criminal felonies if released on bail.

And here you are trying to whatabout...and failing, miserably.

Face it dude, you're an authoritarian. Might as well own it at this point.

Are you telling me to own it?

Sounds like you are being a little bit authoritarian there!

a reply to: chr0naut

Well, he did seem to believe he was above the law and so he kept doing things that resulted in indictments.

You're going to want to read up on Article II of the US Constitution and the Supremacy Clause.

It has always been the case that bail is denied when there is either a danger that someone will abscond, or if they represent a real and present danger to the wider community.

So you're doubling down, ok. Yet they have no trial date nor bail. Their rights are being denied and here you are making excuses.

According to Fulton County Superior Court Judge Emily Richardson, Harrison posed a flight risk as well as a risk to commit additional criminal felonies if released on bail.

And this is where you are fine with two standards of justice. Tell me, what crimes did he commit since the first alleged crime? You can't, see how this works?

Are you telling me to own it?

Sounds like you are being a little bit authoritarian there!

It's a suggestion. Based on all your willingness to have the gov't stomp all over their people.

The worst kind of bootlicker is the one who wants the government to do the work they could never do themselves to someone else.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut

Well, he did seem to believe he was above the law and so he kept doing things that resulted in indictments.

You're going to want to read up on Article II of the US Constitution and the Supremacy Clause.

That clause establishes the supremacy of Federal law over State law. It doesn't put the President above the law.

Additionally, a President also cannot make new laws. As part of their oath of office and according to the Constitution, they must uphold the laws (passed by Congress).

So you're doubling down, ok. Yet they have no trial date nor bail. Their rights are being denied and here you are making excuses.

And this is where you are fine with two standards of justice. Tell me, what crimes did he commit since the first alleged crime? You can't, see how this works?

Bail can be denied if there is a strong likelihood of the accused committing further crimes, or absconding. It does not require that further crimes have already been committed. The law is there to both protect the community and to ensure that the accused will get to court. Many accused people are granted bail by the system, but this guy wasn't.

It's a suggestion. Based on all your willingness to have the gov't stomp all over their people.

Who is stomping all over their people? Surely during the Trump administration, both Federal and State governments in the US did exactly the same things as the New Zealand government, just way more ineffectually?

And as far as international ratings go, New Zealanders just have far more freedom than Americans:

Freedom Index by Country 2023.

2023 Index of Economic Freedom

Human Rights Index - Our World in Data

The US isn't even in the top 10, in any of the ratings. Get the hint!

The worst kind of bootlicker is the one who wants the government to do the work they could never do themselves to someone else.

But no-one in New Zealand was locked into their homes by the government as you alleged, and the emergency rules were overturned once the emergency was over, and the head of that government resigned the role voluntarily, well before her term was up (as did her predecessor), so they clearly weren't seeking to retain 'power' (like Trump has).

You live under the thumb of your government, in a country that incarcerates more than just about any other, and where everything is valued in dollar terms, but the average income is a vanishingly small fraction of what the top earners get.

Don't try and paint the rest of the world to be similar, or worse than your situation. There's nothing special to wave your flag about, there.

a reply to: chr0naut


Again....:

Quick question

How many political enemies did that stalanist Trump put in jail?


Best approximation is fine...

Your extremist ideology is not anything I care about.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut

Again....:

Quick question

How many political enemies did that stalanist Trump put in jail?

Best approximation is fine...

Your extremist ideology is not anything I care about.

I have no idea about how many of his political enemies he put in jail. I do know that several of those he determined were 'traitors' and who were once close to him, were jailed. Unsurprisingly, those were people he publicly designated as his political enemies (like Mannafort, Papadopolis and Cohen), but that was after the fact, so perhaps he was just a coward trying to avoid his complicity in their crimes?

And who exactly 'epsteined' Epstein, and what might have been their motive?

But he did call for his political enemies (and even for some of his allies) to be jailed on 'trumped up' charges.

And I think that I am fairly centrist, not extremist.

a reply to: chr0naut

I have no idea about how many of his political enemies he put in jail.

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Now how many did the "not a stalinist" Biden put in jail?

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut

I have no idea about how many of his political enemies he put in jail.

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Now how many did the "not a stalinist" Biden put in jail?

I have no idea there either.

Nor did I ever say that Biden was "not a stalinist". You are arguing things that you have made up in your head.