My thoughts / predictions for the 2024 presidential election

I've posted some of this in a few threads, but I thought I would make it official and see how right or wrong I am in the next 15 months.

1. Biden and Trump will both be out of the running before November 2024.

2. Biden will be impeached, but not removed from office for the reasons he was impeached.

3. Trump will be convicted on one or more charges and the scotus will become involved at some point.

4. Hunter Biden will be convicted, but will not serve any prison time. (Easy prediction)

5. This one may seem ambiguous, but I'm thinking there will be some BIG surprises in the next 15+ months that will rock the country. No liberal or conservative is going to get to the other side unscathed.

6. I think we are genuinely in a "fourth turning", and the next several years will bear it out.

If you've never heard of the fourth turning, you can get information on it easily enough. It's from a book written in the 90's by William Strauss and Neil Howe, but in brief...

"And every “fourth turning”—that is, every 80 to 100 years—Americans push their society through an urgent, divisive, even violent era of public mobilization and civic upheaval in which their nation is essentially reborn."

What are your predictions?

a reply to: Klassified

Someone acts out on the right, the right being anything outside of communism apparently, then the left gets everything they want, like J6.

a reply to: JinMI

Or "someone" is assigned to be a "conservative" with a bad attitude and the left seizes the preplanned opportunity to advance their agenda.

a reply to: Klassified

Well, I mean we can look at the Whitmer kidnapping attempt and J6 for reference to how many FBI agents and/or informants may or may not facilitate such a thing......

a reply to: Klassified

"And every “fourth turning”—that is, every 80 to 100 years—Americans push their society through an urgent, divisive, even violent era of public mobilization and civic upheaval in which their nation is essentially reborn."

What are your predictions?

I predict there will be a civil war that will morph into a race war.

I'm buying more firearms and ammo incase the war comes to the Rocky mts.

a reply to: Klassified

I think someone from the left of the political spectrum will assassinate Trump and Biden will take another term.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Klassified

"And every “fourth turning”—that is, every 80 to 100 years—Americans push their society through an urgent, divisive, even violent era of public mobilization and civic upheaval in which their nation is essentially reborn."

What are your predictions?

I predict there will be a civil war that will morph into a race war.

I'm buying more firearms and ammo incase the war comes to the Rocky mts.

I'm thinking we are already in a civil war, but I would hate to see it turn violent, especially on a large scale.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Klassified

I think someone from the left of the political spectrum will assassinate Trump and Biden will take another term.

This is a real possibility imo, but I don't think it would be planned from the top. I think the idea of assassinating Trump scares them, so it would likely be a lone wolf, which sounds like what you are alluding to anyway.

originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Klassified

"And every “fourth turning”—that is, every 80 to 100 years—Americans push their society through an urgent, divisive, even violent era of public mobilization and civic upheaval in which their nation is essentially reborn."

What are your predictions?

I predict there will be a civil war that will morph into a race war.

I'm buying more firearms and ammo incase the war comes to the Rocky mts.
imo

I'm thinking we are already in a civil war, but I would hate to see it turn violent, especially on a large scale.

There are many paramilitary groups already training for the coming civil war. Jan6 was a trial run...imo.

a reply to: olaru12

There are many paramilitary groups already training for the coming civil war.

Yes, and have been for a very long time.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: olaru12

There are many paramilitary groups already training for the coming civil war.

Yes, and have been for a very long time.

Very true and now they will have the opportunity to test out their training and equipment.
Many are already in the military.

If it truly is like you mentioned....

"And every “fourth turning”—that is, every 80 to 100 years—Americans push their society through an urgent, divisive, even violent era of public mobilization and civic upheaval in which their nation is essentially reborn."

The cities will burn and the Republic will die a violent and bloody death, anarchy will rule like in the old west. It will be "no country for old men" once again.

I think there will be such massive civil unrest it will require a huge government/military response. Crops are failing world wide; defunding the police and decriminalizing major offense, rapidly rising homelessness coupled with inflation, the diseases that are going to arise from not only lack of proper nutrition but also being 'imported' (plus a few 'natural' escapees like Covid 19) ; no affordable gas for those fortunate enough to have a job get to work.....and millions more for Ukraine. Oh; possibly another 1 or 2 hundred bucks for every FAMILY in Maui who lost everything.

But wait; there's more!

Trump might shoot himself in the back of the head 9 times with a nail gun, or jump from Trump Tower....or maybe have a paddleboarding 'accident' in the Obama's backyard. SO many ways to avoid jail time.

Biden will be switched out with an orangutan and liberals won't notice; they'll still a vote straight party ticket.

Hey. I read the Fourth Turning back in about 04. A bunch of us did and had many lively conversations. We called ourselves The Algonquin Hot Tub as we met daily at the hot tub at our local Y. I can say that we, liberals and conservatives alike that it was a book well paid attention to.

For your predictions, I forecast similar situations. Trump I think will, imagine this, accept an advisor role to the Republican nominee. He will continue to hold the spell on his base and guide them to vote for the candidate he chooses, be it whoever. Everyone will know he is the power behind the throne. I say power but that need not be the case, just so the candidate continues to pay him homage. And that may be Ramaswamy if he can manage to swallow his disgust and lip up Trump if at least for the election and a bit of his first term until he gets his own agenda running.

Biden , how can he even manage to rise from a chair at this point. He is hanging on by a thread and will announce around for medical reasons his decision to not seek a second term. This will give the D's enough time to figure another person other than Harris to runn once we know who Trump will be backing. We all should know by now that alone, Biden was no ones choice but was seen as a stable establishment kind of guy who might beat Trump in 2020

And back to the Turning. We are cycling back to 80 years since WW2. That generation needed to pull it all together to fight a huge problem. We have a big one facing us right now, climate change. Regardless of how it has come about there will be major changes to how we as a civilization deal with the problem. HOW? Authoritarianism, what else. That will do it if nothing more exotic comes at us like a major volcano eruption. Or maybe Donald Trumps clone that was born 35 years ago and kept in hiding until he reached the age necessary for being POTUS. Sorry for that last one but you see I am in the middle of Foundation on Apple TV.

I have to be honest, I have no idea what is going to happen. I do believe that cyclical things do happen, but I am not sure if you can put your finger on exactly what event or events will happen to cause the return of the cycle or how much damage or positive change that new cycle will bring.

There is very much a feeling in the air though that something is not right these days. Sometimes I expect to hear Godzilla stomping somewhere off in the distance.

No Confidence in the System or Government. The Beast devours whom it may and goes where it may. The end.

I believe none of your predictions will come true. I put more credence in astrology.

What color will my piss be tomorrow?a reply to: schuyler

originally posted by: schuyler
I believe none of your predictions will come true. I put more credence in astrology.

I would expect no less from you sir.

Good to see you chiming in you cynical old fart.

It will be a bloody Tuesday.
Trump will present evidence that his followers will deem irrefutable evidence of mass voter fraud in the 2020 election. Of course, nothing will happen except maybe charges against him being dropped. Trump will run and fire up his base with talks of more voter fraud in 2024. No Democrat can beat him in a fair election so they will resort to less than fair tactics again. The maga army will be ready and willing to move in on any "broken pipes" or hidden ballots counts. It will get ugly.

Presidential Election will be suspended in 2024. Remember those cowboy movies where folk got boxed in the canyon?