Aliens and the Rapture

Hi

Thanks for your reply and can understand your fears of deceit. I could write a book simply on your comments! Touchy comments and here is where the average Christian is willing to argue and to fight.

HUMOR: Take 10 Christians, lock them in a room for 24 hours, each having a bible and discuss theology and watch the fists fly!!!

The rapture is a touchy subject indeed. Why even those in 1 AD were expecting rapture or Yeshua's return and....we are still waiting for we neither know the day or time.

The end times will be full of good deceit....so good even some of the "elect" will fall. STAY AWAKE.

I think anyone who blames God for what takes place on this rock is on VERY shaky ground for we know who the god of this planet is..........Lucifer........ so if anyone wants to blame a god......then make it the right one......Lucifer.

Blaming GOD is blasphemy..........and repentance is required!

God bless you

DS

originally posted by: TheGreatWhahooli
a reply to: DeathSlayer

I am in full agreement that space aliens are nothing more that demonic entities playing their silly games in order to delude people.

However, I worry about the emphasis placed on the pre-trib rapture by so many, obviously sincere and devout, Christians. I am no great theologian and I no longer subscribe to the health/wealth brigade, whome I regard as just as dangerous as the new age movement.

My two desires are that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit will grant me wisdom and discernment in all things and a closer relationship with my Saviour.

I hope that the rapture (pre, mid or post tribulation) is indeed part of God's plan. But cannot help feeling that the biblical evidence is somewhat tenuous and has been seized upon by some as a sort of 'get out of jail free card'. My reason for this is what Jesus himself said about the last days in that '...for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened, least noone would survive'.

It makes me wonder what effect the lack of a rapture (pre or mid tribulation) would have on those people who were expecting it. Would they lose their faith? Would they blame God? Would they then buy the lie that aliens are real (not just demons) and abandon their faith completely?

Sounds to me like the sort of deception the enemy would use to lure the faithful into a false sense of security.

I enjoy your posts and please be assured that this reply is in no way a refutaion of what you have said. I have felt for some time that the subject of the rature is something that needs to be considered with great care and a great deal of prayer and guidance.

Bless you in the name Jesus.

Give me time to answer everyone ....yo I am an old man who types slow....two finger keyboard rookie

Hi

Sorry but you are confused.

The rapture will take a 144,000. That's 0.00013211% of the people.

The 144,000 is not the rapture spoken about in the book of Thessalonians....

The rapture will be many.......

I am a sinner and not a good person........none of us are worthy......


a reply to: Mahogany

I totally agree with you and I hope I did not confuse you or anyone else for it is a sin to cause another brother or sister to stumble in their faith.

However the rapture will include God's children of all races and skin colors whether Christian Jew or Christian Gentile.

AND....most important......you can only know this (as many do) because HE has revealed that to you!

The more you grow in faith, the more HE reveals to you.

Much love

God bless

DS

originally posted by: visitedbythem
The Harpadzo(rapture) has nothing to do with the Jews, who make up the 144,000. The 144,000 are likely post Trib. They are a remnant of Jews left in Israel after it is attacked by the Antichrist. That attack likely occurs after the Christians are gone. That is when the Jews realize that the Antichrist is Satanic, and that their Messiah (Yeshua) has come and gone. The 144,000 take the place of the missing church and evangelize the Earth.

Ive studied this extensively as has my dad (96 yr old genius , retired scientist, close to 90 years a Christian). I do believe in pretrib harpadzo, but I must also mention that there is also evidence for a mid trib (pre wrath trib). At this point, it appears that the whole tribulation will be completed by 2030-2033, which means rapture can occur any day between now and 2029.

Hi

I am curious, who wrote it?

Thanks

originally posted by: SigmaXSquared

originally posted by: Mahogany
a reply to: DeathSlayer

A 109,000,000,000 humans have lived on planet earth. The rapture will take a 144,000. That's 0.00013211% of the people.

I've met some people who honestly thought they were better than everyone else and thought they were guaranteed to be in the rapture.

I don't talk to those people any more.

who do you think wrote this?

Have you examined or read the Hindu Vedas, thousands years old? I have, full of UFO....

I have numerous books on UFO phenonoma written by Timothy Good, Leslie Kean, Richard Dolan and others...

I recommend Exo Vaticana written by Thomas Horn and Chris Putman or The Final Roman Emperer

Have you ever had contact with an angel or a demon?

originally posted by: Observer19

a reply to: DeathSlayer
Were you to know UFO history from the early books, which obviously you don't know, you would know that the "rapture" the taking up of souls, was one of the first messages supposedly communicated to earthlings. (Sorry to sound like VP Harris.)
That message was given to contactees and even put into a new age bible, called The Urantia Book. I somewhat recall an earlier book back in the late 1880s called the Osphe, (maybe incorrect spelling) which told of something similar.[.

They were god-like beings in huge ships that periodically came to earth to harvest millions of souls that were stuck here. Perhaps there is a connection to the so-called Akashic Records concepts? (Sorry if I murdered the spelling to it also.)

'Careful who you call demons, ...or angels. Human perceptions are, after all, only human. What another being might convey to us is never necessarily true but certainly will serve its purpose. --Sorta like government, you know?

They (UFO’s) aka; Fallen Angels have been at it from the Garden of Eden, now I believe they are trying to human alien hybrids maybe bring forth the Alien human anti-Christ.

Book written on such topic : Alien Antichrist Jeffery A. Wingo

They tried to block the coming of Christ with the nephilim, then tried to stop Gods’ gift His son from going to the cross , now, the aliens are looked at as Saviors of humanity. They are not!


Don’t have a link to the book haven’t looked.

Hi All I am a long time lurker over Five years, but never got round to joining so I could post, there is some very interesting info loosely connected to this, I have a very interesting link that does explain a lot - just needs reading through.

Enjoy - familyoftaygeta.com...

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Hi

The short answer is no. Let me explain.....the church has and owns a monopoly on sensitive information that thex do not share with the piblic.. You will never get an audio or full copy of text from any Vatican exorcism.

Most spirituaö deliveries are quiet and not as severe.

Witnessing either event above will make you a believer. Become a deacon in a church where the pastor/priest do deliverance training and ask to hejp out as a prayer warrior.....quickest way I know....

The only other way I know how to prove this would be:

If you are willing to convince your local Bishop to send you to the Vatican University for exorcism training where you will see proof. They not only seek priest but lay people as well. They need priests, demonlogist, prayer warriors and mental health specialist. You will witness super natural events that cannot be explained by lay people.

If denied by Bishop there is plenty of training for Deliverance ministry.

I will be sending you a PM tomorrow.

originally posted by: Albert999

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Hi

Thanks for your posts. Not sure if you have read any of my previous threads.

I am a Vatican trained demonlogist who specializes in spiritual deliverance and I can tell you, angels and demons do exist. Many people have met Satan himself....like Mel Gibson, many people and so have I. And demons are scarier than Lucifer.

Lucifer does not reside in Hell. He resides in Geneva, Switzerland... His 5 kings in hell are running hell.

Here's a question though: In my opinion, most old texts are ways of deciphering modern technology and science with limited understanding. Who's to say that current day aliens weren't misconstrued as angels and/or demons back in the day? What if the Rapture is the beings that have performed genetic experiments over millennia coming back to pluck their favorites from the herd?

This demonic plan was made and known as far back as the Sumarians, and Vishnu, etc....

Lucifer has been planning this for milleniums...... he is not stupid. Dont forget he is a Cherub, not your everday fallen angel.. He helped in creation and is more intelligent than the smartest man ever (excluding Christ)

P.S. 20 years ago when Steven Greer was basically unknown, I used to conduct background investigations for him. I will leave it at that.

a reply to: dothedew

Hi. Do you have any hard evidence or links to back up your claims? I would like to look into it, thanks 👍🏼
(Welcome to PM me)

I am (still) a non believer, and yet my partner is a Christian Minister of 50 years. Looking forward to your PM, thanks 👍🏼

a reply to: DeathSlayer

wrong. Demons are not allowed to walk on the earth until Hell is opened up during the tribulation. Havent seen no AC rise yet,so we are not there yet.

Its a case of saying anything that look strange is automatically evil.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

I respect both you and Yuppa as he and I have shared much of what we have seen in the skies over Georgia & South Carolina up in space.

Rapture as you call it but Yuppa disagrees. I go to church and pray to the rosary however I am not up to speed on rapture, etc. I have retired Special Agent contacts that were at the Federal level. Meaning they worked directly for Uncle Sam. One is a former West Wing Presidential detail Secret Service. They are saying that Grusch was allowed to speak and read from a script prepared for him. The Feds were pissed also the Uncle Sam has had stuff for decades. Robert Bigelow would also agree as I watched him on 60 minutes years ago.

I have also seen and filmed UFO's zipping around here up in space over the South Carolina-Georgia border. They can move 100's of miles in a second, make 90 degree turns on a dime.

I would NOT doubt that the USA cut a deal with ET decades ago to obtain technology and we allow them to "experiment" on people, cattle and whatever. Many ETs are benevolent and many are evil. Its probably a 50 / 50 split and that bad guys now control many governments across earth.

What I think we are seeing is that the whatever is good in USA military and government is now coming forward on disclosure and the evil is fighting to keep it in the can yet they are attacking any and all family values and making children into disposable sex toys or worse.

May 4, 2018 video of a UFO over the South Carolina - Georgia border over the Hartwell, Georgia region as described as the "Center of the World" by the Cherokee Indians in the 1500's. The video was a screen shot and enhanced by a UFO investigator at "The Black Vault"



So why call it the center of the world? Could it be because all the UFO's seem to go into and up into a Space Portal over there and the Cherokee saw it also?

Center of the World Monument

Less it be thought that the current anticipation of Armageddon is feverish guesswork – as if – a complete "ideology" underpins the doomsday scenario. According to the insanities of so-called Dispensationalism, periodically God works his magic outside the normal laws of the universe. Thus the whole story of humanity can be seen as a number of episodes (or "dispensations") brought to a close by the intervention of the Almighty. The Edenic period was brought to a close by the expulsion of Adam and Eve from the garden. The Antediluvian period ended with the flood, the Postdiluvian by the building of the Tower of Bable and the Patriarchal by the Exodus of the Jews from Egypt. Fable stacked upon fable.

We then enter the quasi-historical period of the Jewish law, designated the Legal dispensation, which ends with the imagined birth of Jesus. With JC's resurrection begins the Ecclesiastical period – the current epoch– which forecloses with the "rapture" of the church, when "saved Christians" will be whisked away to a joyous reunion with their Lord and Saviour and granted ring-side seats from which to savour the ungodly in their agonizing torment. Thus the final showdown is to be welcomed and encouraged rather than delayed and avoided.

The final, awful period, Tribulation, will be more terrible than any episode in human history. In seven years of apocalyptic meltdown, the bad guys will almost triumph. The Antichrist will appear and he will take the guise of a "one world" leader (see! can't trust the U.N.!). Half of the human race will die, the seas will turn to blood, and a third of the earth will be consumed by fire (see! famine, global warming – it all fits!). The shattering climax will be the second coming of JC, "in Glory".

Such is the lurid gore-fest of dispensationalism, the hope and anticipation of vindictive small minds who audaciously abrogate to themselves a claim to the American-Dream-That-Never-Ends, who think their own skins so precious and their souls so deserving of immortality. Dispensationalism is by no means a new idea, but a disturbing feature today is the mass support the delusion enjoys. Why do anything about humanity's obvious problems when the "King" is coming to reclaim his kingdom and believing Christians will get all the top jobs? Trouble is, the dispensationalists want the rapture to happen real soon and given half the chance would love to trigger Armageddon. They are not harmless nuts; they are dangerous nuts

Quick question:
You say 144,000 virgin MEN.
So, does that mean, no women at all?

If so, I find that pretty curious. And very sad, as it would seem to be yet another method of control by the church.

While I don't hold the same beliefs as you do, I do love to read, look at things at different angles, and try to keep an open mind, for other's beliefs.

I for one think that if a hostile alien presence does exist, we are fairly lucky if that presence can be affected by holy water and Bible verses.

Given the choice, I’d take demons over being cattle for unbelievably advanced unfeeling AI-bots all day.

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originally posted by: Mantiss2021

originally posted by: DeathSlayer

ETA:


Why would a supernatural entity, such as a demon, require a spacecraft?

And if they require such devices in order to operate in our universe/realm, doesn't that also make them susceptible to the physics and limitations of our universe?

"If it bleeds, it can be killed", as Arnold declared

One of my favorite thoughts - the nuke Satan theory. To my knowledge, demons have never shown a complete immunity to conventional weapons. No stories of Satan or his army showing up to a village and slaying 100 men. Some Rasputin-style feats of physical strength or immunity, but have never heard of an instance that couldn’t be solved with a machine gun.

Who says a holy war couldn’t be won with a tactical nuke? To take it a step further - imagine the messiah returning and telling people he waited thousands of years all for us to produce a weapon capable of winning his war.

Trying to reconcile biblical holy/demonic “magic” (for lack of a better term) with current and coming technologies is a fun thought experiment.

a reply to: Waterglass

Paul didnt believe in th erapture,neither did Jesus,neither should you

very good well thought article.