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posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 12:01 PM
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My sincere apologies for the people who have suffered this.

Now imagine this:- you are part of the evil, slimy scum, oh I mean the Elite group of people. You have got to find a hiding place because the peons, sorry the populous, are getting wise to your scheming. They've even had the cheek to send those filthy immigrants to our "paradise" MV. we soon got rid of them. We could run away, I mean retreat, to out underground bunker, but why should we deprive ourselves of the sun.

No we need a fairly isolated place, like an island where we can control who approaches us and those we don't want. Let me think? Bahamas, naah, too small. We could live there but there wouldn't be room for our servants etc. I know I've got the perfect place, very remote but big enough for our servants to live far away from us. I've got just the place, Hawaii. But I here you say "the best spots, beachside properties are owned by the peons, oh sorry natives and it will cost us a lot of money to buy them out and clear the land for our small and modest 30 bedroom mansions.

Now I want you all to guess what gets built on the ashes of those poor people. Prime beach front land??????



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: crayzeed

How many people did not have insurance just like in Louisiana where poor people lived in houses generations old, but they had no money to pay for things like insurance? I bet Hawaii is the same with a vast number of poor people living on rich lands in a ghetto-style house on that land and no real cashflow.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: crayzeed

I saw some videos that I call rumors only that they point to that there may be something to the OP. "Hand your home over to FEMA."

So some links:
Twitter video #1

Twitter video #2



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: crayzeed

Hopefully they can rebuild in the same location using insurance and government assistance.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 01:20 PM
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Lahaina residents worry a rebuilt Maui town could slip into the hands of affluent outsiders - LINK



“I’m more concerned of big land developers coming in and seeing this charred land as an opportunity to rebuild,”


LAND GRAB: MAUI GOVERNOR JOSH GREEN’s EXECUTIVE ORDER HANDS MAUI OVER TO NWO - LINK



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 01:23 PM
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A devious mind might try a plan like that, but not a wise one.

Would you spend millions on a property there now? It is going to take a long time to recover. The Hawaiian Islands are problematic and expensive. New builds there, all at the same time, would require heaps of natural resources and raw materials that would have to be brought thousands of miles by plane or ship. It will take a huge amount of resources. Even all the vegetation will have to grow back again. The trees will take a long time to be anything like what was. There may have been wild fires there before, but these are taking out nearly everything. What an expensive thing it will be to do now and, what with deliberate greedflation and destruction of industry and networks,it is gonna be WAY EXPENSIVE! Will it even be financially viable? It will gobble the cash. It will not look pretty again for a long time, especially with all the heat there now.

The people who live there are rich people with second homes who are serviced by a local community I guess. They are all older people and this is a huge blow to come in the Autumn of their lives. They are people who are connected to powerful players like Obama. There is no way the elite would do this to those people. This is not their way.

There are many more savage surprises to come from the climate changes via serial killer Mama Nature. There is no way we are going to be able to change in time. Nature will force us to change by removing a lot of what is causing the problem I think. Nature is never in a hurry. it may make all our lives miserable for a thousand years if that is what it takes. It may leave just pockets of us or even send us back to kindergarten economically and in terms of quality of life.

I was communicating in a thread with another member here at ATS the other day and we agreed that nature, via forest fires and eruptions will send a lot of particles into the air to cool us down its own way eventually. This will make all our crops vulnerable and would bring huge shortages, ridiculous inflation and big arguments over trade. We could suddenly start having huge amounts of heat then ridiculously cold winters, flash floods and droughts. All extremes will happen. A darkened world always seems to bring plagues with it too. It sends everything very unpredictable.

The extremes in nature will produce extremes in us, in our politics and behaviour. We will want to blame someone for the misery. Wow, it may get very ugly and life may not be worth living in such extreme, dangerous and miserable circumstances.

Emerging patterns in America: Droughts and forest fires, flash floods and extreme cold; politics becoming more extreme; law and order breaking down; leadership not able to lead suffocated by the bankers and the backers.

It is similar in Britain and Europe. The Climate Crisis will test alliances, break up alliances and create new ones as the competition for natural resources and raw materials for industry grows amid rapidly depleting resource pools with huge giants like India and China on the hunt too with much mightier appetites to fuel their economies than us in terms of population; their growing wealth and what rich people desire. The customer who pays most will be the one who can access the goodies. The rest will not get a look in.

Everythiong is happening together at the worst possible time. Why do we think the world is catching fire? I know why it is. Humans are not linked enough to do what needs doing on a global scale. It is going very fast in totally the wrong direction. Who will put the emergency brakes on and make it go the right way for starters?

Environmental policy cannot be unilateral. If only one does it they will not be able to compete economically or militarily with the ones who guzzle without brakes. They will become politically and economically vulnerable, weaker with less political clout.

Our leaders and their Carbon Net Zero are ridiculously lame and naive. There has never been anything this dumb since Nero, Claudius and the other Roman suicide squad of Caesars.

What these fires tell us is that there is no escape from climate change. The rich can't escape. There is nowhere to escape to. If they have trees and vegetation on those islands, unless they are well careful and manage it as a strategy that prevents fire moving, the same will happen again.

Might I suggest that there is a good reason why hardly anyone lived before on all these islands in our world? They don't get to last very long one way or the other. The only paradises have been turned into concrete ghost towns by us. Look at San Francisco as it empties of shops and businesses. What is the point of even living in a city now? Everything is disappearing and we have no need to live all banged up in the same concrete cells together like rats in a sewage system. Our lives are changing very quickly. San Francisco Bay used to be gorgeous only a few short years ago. It was paradise. Now look at it!

Don't bother trying to find somewhere unspoilt as you will only spoil it quickly if you are rich and always covering nature with your concrete desires and the business you need to keep you going in your new paradise. You even make little drug gangs everywhere you go as you love your coc aine so much. You bring in men and women for your pleasure. You turn paradise into Babylon.

Why not go back to San Francisco and do the old place up? If you pool resources and investments you could make it look so natural and beautiful again. It would be much cheaper than trying to create life on those islands again.

They have now stabbed themselves in their feet because it is going to be well expensive to ship all the building materials and plants out there if they want to start again. It may not last very long again if they do. They create greedflation then have to suffer it and make it even worse.

It is all the wrong attitude in this world. We pay the price in flames.


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posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 01:58 PM
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Prime real estate for pennies on the dollar.
Existing structures (conveniently) already leveled, just waiting to be scraped clean and replaced with whatever they wish.
The Maui Chief of Police is an FBI National Academy graduate and was previously Incident Commander at the 2017 Las Vegas massacre.

Nahh, totally normal nothing to see here



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: underpass61

Right ...This person says they are already calling and trying to buy up land

The Vultures are already swooping in trying to buy up Maui property before the bodies are cold - LINK

Adding this as well ... take it with a grain of salt

Oprah Winfrey Has Been Buying Up Land in Maui Like Crazy - LINK - LINK2 - LINK3
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posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 02:55 PM
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a reply to: crayzeed

What happened there is beyond horrible!

I keep thinking about how man continues to try and dominate nature instead of work with the natural order.

Hurricanes come with torrential rains, yet not a drop with this one. To make matters worse, Hawaii has been suffering drought conditions, and much of the plant life on Maui has been replaced with highly flammable and invasive species prized for their 'beauty'.

Talk about a perfect storm.. I'm left thinking about all those hillside mansions in California, built on cliffs. Fires happen, rains come and the mansions fall down. It's Russian Roulette with Mother Nature!

The governor of Hawaii has publicly stated "I'm already thinking about ways for the state to acquire that land…"

The incident commander of the 2017 Vegas shooting is now the Chief of Police for Maui; he's also a Federal Agent with top secret clearance.

Strange coincidences.....

Just to add a little more for conspiracy fans...






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posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 03:02 PM
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how bout making a Ground Zero memorial or rememberance cemetary.. smack dab in the middle of the firestormed enclave of poorer American Dreamers
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posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 05:16 PM
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I wonder if they could hear Nero fiddling while the flames roared. Seems like a rerun to me.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 06:35 PM
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In my nearly 60 years on this planet i dont think i have ever witnessed a more incompetent US government as the current democrats are running, They are a disgrace !

All the best



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: crayzeed

Scary thoughts mate I do hope you are wrong .

I try to be as Positive as possible and then Evil scenarios like this sneak in and just ruin it for me , reminding me just how Dark the world can be.
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posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 07:40 PM
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I would agree with you if I didn't think this rampant "incompetence " wasn't all by design. Democrats are lousy leaders but at least they used to be semi intelligent.
Not anymore.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 09:06 PM
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originally posted by: crayzeed
My sincere apologies for the people who have suffered this.

Now imagine this:- you are part of the evil, slimy scum, oh I mean the Elite group of people. You have got to find a hiding place because the peons, sorry the populous, are getting wise to your scheming. They've even had the cheek to send those filthy immigrants to our "paradise" MV. we soon got rid of them. We could run away, I mean retreat, to out underground bunker, but why should we deprive ourselves of the sun.

No we need a fairly isolated place, like an island where we can control who approaches us and those we don't want. Let me think? Bahamas, naah, too small. We could live there but there wouldn't be room for our servants etc. I know I've got the perfect place, very remote but big enough for our servants to live far away from us. I've got just the place, Hawaii. But I here you say "the best spots, beachside properties are owned by the peons, oh sorry natives and it will cost us a lot of money to buy them out and clear the land for our small and modest 30 bedroom mansions.

Now I want you all to guess what gets built on the ashes of those poor people. Prime beach front land??????

It’s called insurance & Federal aid . Who ever lost their house to this fire will have it rebuilt.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 09:08 PM
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Here in the northeast we have seen increasing hurricanes, northeasters, tropical storms and severe flooding issues in the last 20 years -
And still they keep building on every empty inch.



posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 12:19 AM
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Ignorance isn't bliss except; When it comes to the ignoring it part.






posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 12:26 AM
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originally posted by: Itherael
a reply to: crayzeed

Hopefully they can rebuild in the same location using insurance and government assistance.


Biden promised the residents will be taken care of.

www.reuters.com...




posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 04:05 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

"No comment"



posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 05:53 AM
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There’s an active volcanos they can’t control. If you’re picking the location New Schwabia aka Antarctica

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