It Appears the Biden Family Helped Russia Invade Ukraine While Receiving Money from Ukraine.

Yes, they are, if your last name is Trump.

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a reply to: network dude

All i'm doing is pointing out that both frontrunners have foreign influence through finances. One through his son who had been doing business with our allies. The other directly who has been doing business with America's enemies.

Both probably shouldn't be President, but only one of them seems to have broken the law.

a reply to: KMeRMoRe

Once again, Jared & Ivanka made $650 million while working at the White House. They've made billions from America's enemies since leaving the White House.

I don't see a special counsel being appointed to look into all of that.

a reply to: nugget1

🎯 Bullseye! Old Joe is just a figure head they knew would lie his butt off, or play the dementia card and whisper in that creepy way.

Once again, your whataboutism is a bright shining star of feces.

If you were to at least entertain the possibility that the Bidens are corrupt, you might be worth debating, but it's always the same crap from you over and over.

I guess the pay is good.

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a reply to: Threadbare

Because they had businesses already in place before and after Trump was POTUS.

Why would 'our enemies' give Kushner so much money AFTER Trump was gone? Does not make any sense! Pretty sure influence peddling is like selling drugs. Its not party now, pay later kind of thing.

You know that Ivanka and her daughter speak fluent Mandarin? Maybe FASHION trademarks go to people that speak the language and understand the culture. I'm told the Chinese LOVE Ivanka. She is like a celebrity. This was BEFORE he was POTUS.

What businesses were the BIden family in again? Were they selling neckties? Real estate? Investment management? A hit multi-season reality show which two of them starred in? How about steaks? Real estate seminars? Anything at all you can name?

What???

Please, lets do have yet another special counsel investigation of Trumps. You know, just to be sure we haven't missed anything.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Why didn't they divest their interests in their companies while working for the government as they are supposed to do?

Do you not find it weird that the crown prince of Saudi Arabia said that Jared was feeding him classified information and the second Jared stops working for the government the Saudi Royal Family invests $2 billion in his new company?

a reply to: Threadbare

No, I did not hear the Saudi Prince say Jared was giving him classified info. Show me.

And like I said, seems kinda silly to pay for influence after the fact. Besides, can't they take their billions back if they want, after all its an INVESTMENT not a SALARY.

Every POTUS coming into office provides a detailed financial statement. Congress advises which must become blind trust for the POTUS. They do not have to shut down their businesses while in office. Are you saying a successful wealthy person can never be president due to them having a business?

If things were amiss, I pretty much believe the dems would have been all over it. Trump couldn't get a parking ticket and them not make a federal case out of it.

Thats the problem with overzealous prosecution. No credibility remains.

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SAUDI CROWN PRINCE BOASTED THAT JARED KUSHNER WAS “IN HIS POCKET”

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The INTERCEPT????? roflmao

In June, Saudi prince Mohammed bin Salman ousted his cousin, then-Crown Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, and took his place as next in line to the throne, upending the established line of succession. In the months that followed, the President’s Daily Brief contained information on Saudi Arabia’s evolving political situation, including a handful of names of royal family members opposed to the crown prince’s power grab, according to the former White House official and two U.S. government officials with knowledge of the report. Like many others interviewed for this story, they declined to be identified because they were not authorized to speak about sensitive matters to the press.

In late October, Jared Kushner made an unannounced trip to Riyadh, catching some intelligence officials off guard. “The two princes are said to have stayed up until nearly 4 a.m. several nights, swapping stories and planning strategy,” the Washington Post’s David Ignatius reported at the time.

What exactly Kushner and the Saudi royal talked about in Riyadh may be known only to them, but after the meeting, Crown Prince Mohammed told confidants that Kushner had discussed the names of Saudis disloyal to the crown prince, according to three sources who have been in contact with members of the Saudi and Emirati royal families since the crackdown. Kushner, through his attorney’s spokesperson, denies having done so.


More unnamed sources??? What 'confidants' did Saudi Prince brag too? What was classified, which cousins were with him and which weren't???? lol This whole piece is a whole lotta nothing.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

It's hardly the only article that talks about it.

Here, try this one:
Before Giving Billions to Jared Kushner, Saudi Investment Fund Had Big Doubts

Can you imagine how many Courics the # you would take if that article was released about Hunter? And he never worked at the White House.

originally posted by: Threadbare
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While we're on the topic of Presidential families and their income.

What are your thoughts on the Trump family making billions off the government that backed 9/11? What are your thoughts on the fact that the crown prince of that country has said that Jared was feeding him classified information and was pretty much his lapdog; while Jared was working at the White House mind you.

Hunter made millions from US allies and neutral countries.

The entire Trump family has made billions from a country that sponsored the most recent state-sponsored attack on US soil.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

That should certainly be investigated! Right now, the most pressing issue is a sitting POTUS that appears to be highly compromised and working with the enemy(s) of the USA.

Blocking all investigative efforts looks more like an admission of guilt at this point.

Investigate them all! Every single politician in DC! Let the chips fall where they may, and start cleaning up our compromised political system, starting at the present day top.

a reply to: nugget1

Wait until you find out that Jared was subpoenaed multiple times by Congress over this exact issue, refused to show up every time, and then the investigation was dropped when the new Republican Congress came in.

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: network dude

All i'm doing is pointing out that both frontrunners have foreign influence through finances. One through his son who had been doing business with our allies. The other directly who has been doing business with America's enemies.

Both probably shouldn't be President, but only one of them seems to have broken the law.

watching you display such a lack of integrity has been enjoyable, and I'm sure it will continue to be. When the facts all show the truth, seeing how long it takes you to either admit you were wrong, or change your user name again will be epic.

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The NewYork Times????? besides the paywall, they are as bad as mslsd.

Hunter is IN the white house, with his dad. He is family the same as Jared. Hunter is privy to classified info as much as Jared was. He may as well have a clearance too, as his dad is the guy that has the FINAL SAY in all matters concerning classified info. You say Jared sold classified info to the Saudi's and I say Hunter sold classified to Ukraine.

But you don't seem to understand that in any practical way.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

But Hunter doesn't have a security clearance.


Jared did, despite having it be denied due reasons we still don't know (Ivanka too) and his FIL overrode the denial.

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-.- this was given, isn't it why hunter biden lost 3 laptops to russian spies(on record, who know's how many 'off record')? I could understand losing 1.. but 3? yeah no.. that's not an 'accident'. So kinda old news if you think about it, it's just people finally coming around to realizing that the Bidens were playing both sides against each other while a crapload of corrupt politicians made money off this war.

(Remember him leaving a laptop to get his (*cough*)computer fixed, aka hard drive copied? Data recovery/cloning is a 'fix' if one things they have a bad hard drive.. and paying the guy to clone it makes 2 copies 1 for 'his' computer, and 1 for whom he 'loses it' to. That also happened to of been the 4th laptop he lost, but was recovered because he never picked it up. So this proves he was getting smarter with his dealings. That laptop probably had a tracker in it, which was how the FBI recovered it so quickly - which was why Hunter wanted a cloned hard drive.

This at the very least would implicate JILL BIDEN because Joe and Hunter are too stupid to of thought that out. Probably guided by another politician that begins with an H and demanded war with Russia since the 80s. As well as being known to have 'online' zoom calls with her dear friend Jill, and had access to Canada's PM in an non-official yet 'secure line'(anti-tap) phone call for a 'friendly chat about Saudi women' while not holding public office - which we were told to 'take her word for it' as she defended her actions about the phone call.)

Something i've been saying to the very beginning.
The US&UK pushed Russia into a war, same with Ukraine - this is a fact, not an opinion. I could just imagine the incriminating evidence released by the US(hunter's laptop) pointing at Ukraine for killing Russians, experimentation, death camps, biolabs and more, as well as 'future plans' to militarize with nuclear weaponry to attack Russia. All which have been slowly being released to the public in bits and pieces over the entire duration.

So I wouldn't be surprised if this intel was sold to Russia by the Biden's to provoke the war to begin with. It's not shocking news, and it doesn't take much to put 2 and 2 together. Just gotta make a mental note on thing's that occurred as the truth slowly reveals itself.

But I will give a warning, whoever they plan to replace Biden with is going to be worse.. since they are putting all his dirty laundry for the public to see, and no other countries really take him seriously because of his 'dementia'. So he and his family are the perfect fall guys. As it's inhumane to put a demented patient in any form of prison - there for it won't be done because he won't be mentally aware by the time charges land.

As for his kid Hunter, you can tell he's going to get away scott free too with all the 'free drug' clinics for addicts popping up all over the place. Encouraging drug use not punishing/treating abusers for their addictions or crimes committed while 'high'. They will say he's an 'addict' and incapable of making any decisions on his own, he will get rich person rehab and be set free and jump right back to hookers and blo while continuing to ruin his life just with a bigger paycheck provided by all that money he got for selling US intel.. (Which honestly the bidens should have their accounts frozen until every dollar is accounted for.. and any 'illegal' acquires should be reclaimed - which is what they would do to ANYONE else).

So as you can see, they will get away with it. So yes, say what you will but Jill LOVES the Hill and the Hill hates Putin, so while her husband Joe hates the hill and has made that well known he does love his wife. There's your 101 connection, motive, and reason.

"We paid for screwing H out of office" just like "the Supreme Court paid for not putting dirt on Trump" which was repeatedly shut down until they had bricks thrown threw their windows, and bmbs under their cars, protests and people stalking their children etc. Now they 'suddenly have evidence' against trump. Isn't that a nice coincidence? Their only way out of the mess that 'politico' started(yes after the court case where they admitted their 'fact checks were nothing more then 'popular opinion'. They lost revenue for that - millions so why wouldn't they take the shot?) Abortion rights - only way to resolve it was to "let the states decide for themselves, aka let the people of the state vote for what they want"


Either way come election time things are going to get very interesting..

P.s - this is why I never did choose a side, because they were ALL being played. Neither of them Zelenski or Putin were 'man enough' to say no.

a reply to: Threadbare

No, Hunter doesn't have a security clearance. Nothing so proper as that. He DOES however has access to classified docs. We know that too. I remember something about a car and a garage and Hunter paying rent at the address.
So what exactly is your point???

I retired 18 months before my 10 year clearance review came up. They started prepping us with the new process and what to expect about a year before that. So, I was dreading go thru it. Because they added one requirement: list all your foreign contacts. Well, most working level nobody civilian that never goes anywhere usually had no problems, at least I didn't other than in-laws from Mexico, which didn't much matter. But they said one thing that scared me to death:

EVEN ON THE INTERNET.


So: I would have to say OldCarpy2 and AndyShakes on my clearance form. This is what they told us. This is why I didn't participate on social media until AFTER I RETIRED.

If I had an investment firm and did international business, it would be difficult for me to get a clearance again too. Or you, or anyone. It would be a long drawn out processes in the best of cases. Trump just cut to the chase.

I once knew someone that was denied a clearance, but then challenged it and won. The reason: he attended church on both Sunday and Wednesday nights and his wife taught Sunday School. They decided he was 'too religious'. He appealled and won. Same as Jared might have after his first rejection.

It's so clear you don't and never had a clearance.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

But Jared & Ivanka didn't appeal their denials. Trump stepped in an ordered them to be given security clearances.

Can you imagine the field day the Right would have if Hunter applied for a security clearance, it was denied, Biden ordered him to be given one, then Hunter made half a billion dollars while working at the White House, and at the same time one of America's enemies said Hunter was feeding them classified information, and then Hunter's new company was given $2 billion by the same government despite experts saying it was a bad investment, and then Biden doubles down by investing millions in a company owned by the same government?

If Trump were reelected, would you demand he divest himself of all connections to LIV? Would you demand Jared & Ivanka do the same for all of the companies they have tied to KSA? Would you call for Trump's impeachment of they refused to do so?

a reply to: Threadbare

So what? He is the head of the chain anyway! FFS, Biden didn't even bother. He just let Hunter have access to the goodies without one. I guess you think that is preferable.

You are beyond teaching.