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Texas Fight to Protect Womans Sports - Texas 'Save Womens Sports Act' Signed

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posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 11:10 AM
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In Texas, to compete or play in womens sports you must be a woman. Yes, a woman according to SCIENCE and BIOLOGY, not how you feel on a particular day. It's all about the X and Y Chromosome and not emotions. Common sense. Texas has taken steps to protect women in sports.

Office of Texas Governor Abbott Senate Bill 15 Click Here

Governor Greg Abbott today ceremonially signed the Save Women’s Sports Act passed during the 88th Regular Legislative Session at the Texas Women’s Hall of Fame in Denton. The Governor was joined by former NCAA athletes and spokeswomen for Independent Women's Voice Riley Gaines and Paula Scanlan and a dozen other female athletes to celebrate this momentous law to protect the integrity of fair competition and women's sports in Texas.

"We gather today at the Texas Women's Hall of Fame, which was founded in 1984 by the Texas Governor's Commission for Women to recognize women who have attained extraordinary achievements and ensure those achievements and contributions are written into our state's legacy," said Governor Abbott. “Women have thrived under college sports. They have mastered discipline, spurred drive, and cast visions inspired by a work ethic to achieve greatness. They have learned to triumph with grace and how to gracefully accept failure. They have learned how to hone skills and then translate them into successful careers and families. The legacy of women’s sports will now be safeguarded for generations to come.”

“I am thankful to Governor Greg Abbott for supporting women and girls at all levels of competitive sport—including collegiate athletes,” said Gaines. “By signing the Save Women’s Sports Act, Governor Abbott has sent a powerful message to Texans and to all Americans that we must protect the female category in sports if women and girls are to have equal athletic opportunities required by law.”


Texas Save Womens Sports Act Senate Bill 15 Click Here

TRANS activists were there spitting on people; throwing water on people; shouting cuss words and insults at people including little children. Some shouted 'we know where you live' and sounded like they were willing to get violent against those who were protecting women in sports.

Christian Post - Protestors Attack

Witnesses say trans activists and allies spat and shouted at attendees at a North Texas ceremonial signing of a new state law that prohibits biological males from competing against women in collegiate athletics.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott was joined by former NCAA athletes and a number of pro-women activists Monday for the signing of the Save Women’s Sports Act at the Texas Women’s Hall of Fame in Denton, about 20 miles northwest of Dallas.

Under Senate Bill 15, a biological male is prohibited from competing in a college-level athletic competition designated for a biological female athlete to maintain competitive fairness. The bill also creates a mechanism for people to seek injunctive relief against any Texas public college or university or intercollegiate athletic team if it violates the provisions of the bill.


North Texas News

At the University of Pennsylvania, Scanlan was a teammate of trans swimmer Lia Thomas, who joined the women’s team in 2021 after previously swimming on the men’s team.

Any discussion of maintaining the sanctity of women’s spaces is labeled as transphobic, bigoted and hateful,” Scanlan said. “What’s bigoted and hateful is discrimination against women and girls happening across the country.

“The dangerous effect is to erase women and girls, destroy us and our equal opportunities to compete and win.”


Fox News 4 'Save Womens Sports Act'

"Any amount of common sense you can easily comprehend the fact men on average, this is fact, are taller, stronger, more powerful, can jump higher than women,' said Gaines. "It’s biological reality, but unfortunately we live in such a time where it’s controversial to say men and women are different."





edit on AugustSaturday23America/ChicagoSat, 12 Aug 2023 11:27:55 -050055Augustam82 by FlyersFan2 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 11:16 AM
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THIS decides who will compete in Texas. Not emotions.

Chromosomes

Each person normally has one pair of sex chromosomes in each cell. The Y chromosome is present in males, who have one X and one Y chromosome, while females have two X chromosomes.



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan2
THIS decides who will compete in Texas. Not emotions.

Chromosomes

Each person normally has one pair of sex chromosomes in each cell. The Y chromosome is present in males, who have one X and one Y chromosome, while females have two X chromosomes.



Careful with these posts.
You don't want to offend the transgender lobby and the trans ideology.



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: FlyersFan2

They want to "follow the Science" until it's not on their side. Teachers have been fired for saying that, according to Biology, there are only 2 genders.



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: FlyersFan2

They want to "follow the Science" until it's not on their side. Teachers have been fired for saying that, according to Biology, there are only 2 genders.


Are you sure about the number of genders?
Because I heard there could be billions of genders, a different one for each human being. Just say how you feel and you create your own gender.




posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 12:43 PM
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Why is this even being discussed? When a man "competes" against a woman it ceases to be a competition. That being the case, what's the point?

I'm all for letting people chose their own lifestyle until it encroaches on the lifestyle of others.
edit on 12-8-2023 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 12:43 PM
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a reply to: FlyersFan2

Don't Male-to-Female (MF) transsexuals take (male) testosterone-blocking hormones, and supplant then with (female) hormones (estrogen)?

If the concern was, truly, that males, claiming to be females might have an unfair advantage due to their testosterone-based strength, and thus "threaten" women's sports,


Would not the presence of testosterone-blockers in the "pretenders'" blood eliminate that concern? Athletes, at all levels are tested for "performance enhancing substances", the presence of unusually high levels of testosterone in a female athlete (East German women's gymnastics team..) should be enough to disqualify a participant.


FWIW, isn't extremely doubtful that an "intact and unaltered" Male would willing submit to what amounts to Castration, either via surgery or pharmaceuticals, just to gain a performance advantage in a sport?


And if someone were to go to such extreme lengths, that might be the appropriate time to consider regulatory restrictions for that particular individual.


Seems like this law is intended only to further ostracize an already marginalized community.



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 12:52 PM
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Oh look! Another ATS pile-on thread bashing trans people, what a surprise!

This has little to do with women’s sports that most people don’t give two sh!ts about anyway and this signing ceremony nothing but grandstanding for a bill that was signed in JUNE.


“This discriminatory law does nothing to help women’s sports and could put all college sports in Texas at risk for athletes, fans, and businesses by conflicting with NCAA Title IX rules,” Ash Hall, Policy & Advocacy Strategist at the ACLU of Texas, stated when Abbott signed the bill in June.

Like other recently-passed anti-LGBTQ+ legislation, the law empowers Texas residents to bring civil actions against targets of the bill, creating a citizen-enforcement mechanism that can be exploited by far-right organizations pursuing discriminatory outcomes in the state.

In March, the Austin American-Statesman reported there were no openly transgender athletes competing at any of the state’s four-year universities involved in NCAA-sanctioned sports.

Thirteen schools, including the University of Texas and Texas State University, said they weren’t aware of ever having had a transgender athlete compete in their programs.


“This is an answer to a problem that doesn’t exist,” said Andrea Segovia, senior field and policy adviser for the Transgender Education Network of Texas, in June. “What are the priorities of the state is always my question.”
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Seems like all of Texas’ problems are now solved? Kudos for keeping up the good work ATS and letting your true colors shine through.



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: FlyersFan2

Don't Male-to-Female (MF) transsexuals take (male) testosterone-blocking hormones, and supplant then with (female) hormones (estrogen)?

If the concern was, truly, that males, claiming to be females might have an unfair advantage due to their testosterone-based strength, and thus "threaten" women's sports,


Would not the presence of testosterone-blockers in the "pretenders'" blood eliminate that concern? Athletes, at all levels are tested for "performance enhancing substances", the presence of unusually high levels of testosterone in a female athlete (East German women's gymnastics team..) should be enough to disqualify a participant.


FWIW, isn't extremely doubtful that an "intact and unaltered" Male would willing submit to what amounts to Castration, either via surgery or pharmaceuticals, just to gain a performance advantage in a sport?


And if someone were to go to such extreme lengths, that might be the appropriate time to consider regulatory restrictions for that particular individual.


Seems like this law is intended only to further ostracize an already marginalized community.




Seems like this law is intended only to further ostracize an already marginalized community.


What are you talking about?
Your comments are disconnected from reality.
You talk as if the only concern is testosterone levels.. so reducing them a man looses his advantage over women in sports.

A male has various advantages over females in sports and reducing his testosterone or having surgeries doesn't change anything. Only in the field of pseudo-science these claims could stand.



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: Mantiss2021

Daily Mail


'I can still hit a golf ball 280 yards after seven YEARS of hormone therapy - there's a lot of testosterone left over!' Caitlyn Jenner doubles down on criticism of Lia Thomas being allowed to swim as a woman and calls for stricter NCAA rules


All that adding and deleting of hormones and testosterone does NOT erase the advantage men have over actual real women in sports. This bill protects women from men taking over their sports. It's a common sense bill.

And from the opening post ... there is a lot more to the advantage men have over women in sports ...

Fox News 4 'Save Womens Sports Act'

"Any amount of common sense you can easily comprehend the fact men on average, this is fact, are taller, stronger, more powerful, can jump higher than women,' said Gaines. "It’s biological reality, but unfortunately we live in such a time where it’s controversial to say men and women are different."


edit on AugustSaturday23America/ChicagoSat, 12 Aug 2023 12:56:11 -050011Augustpm82 by FlyersFan2 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 12:54 PM
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originally posted by: AdifferentOpinion
Oh look! Another ATS pile-on thread bashing trans people, what a surprise!

This has little to do with women’s sports that most people don’t give two sh!ts about anyway and this signing ceremony nothing but grandstanding for a bill that was signed in JUNE.


“This discriminatory law does nothing to help women’s sports and could put all college sports in Texas at risk for athletes, fans, and businesses by conflicting with NCAA Title IX rules,” Ash Hall, Policy & Advocacy Strategist at the ACLU of Texas, stated when Abbott signed the bill in June.

Like other recently-passed anti-LGBTQ+ legislation, the law empowers Texas residents to bring civil actions against targets of the bill, creating a citizen-enforcement mechanism that can be exploited by far-right organizations pursuing discriminatory outcomes in the state.

In March, the Austin American-Statesman reported there were no openly transgender athletes competing at any of the state’s four-year universities involved in NCAA-sanctioned sports.

Thirteen schools, including the University of Texas and Texas State University, said they weren’t aware of ever having had a transgender athlete compete in their programs.


“This is an answer to a problem that doesn’t exist,” said Andrea Segovia, senior field and policy adviser for the Transgender Education Network of Texas, in June. “What are the priorities of the state is always my question.”
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Seems like all of Texas’ problems are now solved? Kudos for keeping up the good work ATS and letting your true colors shine through.


It will be a very good idea if there is an outright ban of all transwomen athletes in female sports. The rest of your reply is just appealing to emotions and an exercise in whataboutism.



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 01:00 PM
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originally posted by: AdifferentOpinion
Oh look! Another ATS pile-on thread bashing trans people, what a surprise!

Discussing how women should be protected in sports isn't bashing anyone.
Nice deflection attempt but it fails.


This has little to do with women’s sports

It has everything to do with womens sports. It's the whole point.


that most people don’t give two sh!ts about anyway and this signing ceremony nothing but grandstanding for a bill that was signed in JUNE.

So what if it was created in June. It was just signed. It's open for discussion.


Seems like all of Texas’ problems are now solved?

Oh brother.


Kudos for keeping up the good work ATS and letting your true colors shine through.

True colors ... happy that women in sports in Texas will be protected and be able to compete with each other fairly.
edit on AugustSaturday23America/ChicagoSat, 12 Aug 2023 13:03:06 -050006Augustpm82 by FlyersFan2 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: Mantiss2021
Seems like this law is intended only to further ostracize an already marginalized community.

This law protects women in sports so they can compete fairly with each other.
There is nothing about it that 'ostracizes' trans people. It is a common sense law.



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: Mantiss2021

I am under treatment for prostate cancer and take a medicine called Eligard. It is a testosterone blocker.
Care to put me in the ring with your wife or daughter ?



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 01:12 PM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan2
a reply to: Mantiss2021

Daily Mail


'I can still hit a golf ball 280 yards after seven YEARS of hormone therapy - there's a lot of testosterone left over!' Caitlyn Jenner doubles down on criticism of Lia Thomas being allowed to swim as a woman and calls for stricter NCAA rules


All that adding and deleting of hormones and testosterone does NOT erase the advantage men have over actual real women in sports. This bill protects women from men taking over their sports. It's a common sense bill.

And from the opening post ... there is a lot more to the advantage men have over women in sports ...

Fox News 4 'Save Womens Sports Act'

"Any amount of common sense you can easily comprehend the fact men on average, this is fact, are taller, stronger, more powerful, can jump higher than women,' said Gaines. "It’s biological reality, but unfortunately we live in such a time where it’s controversial to say men and women are different."




The average LPGA drive distance is 250 yards, so Jenner isn't that much better than average. The average PGA drive is 300 yards.

Furthermore, if as Jenner states "...there's a lot of testosterone left over...", that would be an indication that the hormone therapy protocol isn't being followed correctly. A drug test would therefore disqualify Her participation, would it not?


If they are going to test for drugs and now, chromosomes, why not include testosterone/estrogen levels as well?
edit on 12-8-2023 by Mantiss2021 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 01:14 PM
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originally posted by: Mantiss2021
FWIW, isn't extremely doubtful that an "intact and unaltered" Male would willing submit to what amounts to Castration, either via surgery or pharmaceuticals, just to gain a performance advantage in a sport?


Wrong.

Case in point - Lia Thomas

Lia Thomas so ‘well-endowed’ I had to ‘refrain from looking’: Riley Gaines


Transgender swimmer Lia Thomas is so well-endowed that female swimmer Riley Gaines had “refrain from looking” at Thomas in the locker room they shared during a meet.

In a new podcast with Bill Maher dropping Sunday, Gaines, an advocate for women’s sports, repeatedly declined to estimate Thomas’ size but explained it is in proportion to the frame of a “6-foot-4 male.”

Gaines tied against Thomas in the 2022 NCAA Championships and since has become an outspoken activist against biological men in women’s sports – saying it was unfair and that changing alongside Thomas in the locker room was weird and awkward.

Some swimmers undressed in the janitor’s closet to avoid Thomas.


To quote Riley Gaines .... Lia Thomas “6-foot-4 male. Use your imagination” as to how 'well endowed' he is. There is no chemical or actual castration. He's fully intact and fully male in the female locker room and in between the lane lines while swimming. Fully male and with an unfair advantage over actual females.



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 01:25 PM
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Another note on Lia Thomas
(there is more than just hormone shots and testosterone blockers at play here)

Washington Examiner


Thomas is 6-foot-3, putting her height in the 98th percentile for men and literally off the chart for women. Although, in accordance with NCAA rules, Thomas has been on hormone replacement therapy for over a year (the 22-year-old told Sports Illustrated she began in 2019), the body developed by male puberty remains. Her hips are narrow, not remotely wide enough to birth a child, and her lean legs and torso connected without a hint of a curve. Her jacket is hung like a cape over strapping, broad shoulders, concealing a chest flat as a board.

The two women next to Thomas swam without the advantage of large hands and a disproportionately long torso, having less height to overpower the resistance created by the greater circumference of biologically female hips. The women who excel in swimming, like other aerobic sports such as running, largely tend to have slimmer and less curvy bodies than average, but especially next to Thomas, the difference between even elite cisgendered female athletes and a trans one cannot be ignored. Weyant's thighs are undeniably curved, and Sullivan's shoulders and chest are rounder.

Scientifically speaking, these differences also translate to significant differences in body fat. Whereas elite male athletes can safely maintain body fat percentages down in the single digits, women require, at minimum, 11% body fat in order to maintain regular periods, although many require much more fat to do so.

So ignore the political and biological aspects of the debate, and just consider the raw physics. Wider hips and other curves create greater frontal resistance while swimming than an overall narrower body, and greater body fat percentages render those bodies more buoyant. All of this explains how both Weyant and Sullivan are literal Olympians, whereas Thomas was ranked in the mid-500s among men in the 500-yard freestyle.



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: Mantiss2021

originally posted by: FlyersFan2
a reply to: Mantiss2021

Daily Mail


'I can still hit a golf ball 280 yards after seven YEARS of hormone therapy - there's a lot of testosterone left over!' Caitlyn Jenner doubles down on criticism of Lia Thomas being allowed to swim as a woman and calls for stricter NCAA rules


All that adding and deleting of hormones and testosterone does NOT erase the advantage men have over actual real women in sports. This bill protects women from men taking over their sports. It's a common sense bill.

And from the opening post ... there is a lot more to the advantage men have over women in sports ...

Fox News 4 'Save Womens Sports Act'

"Any amount of common sense you can easily comprehend the fact men on average, this is fact, are taller, stronger, more powerful, can jump higher than women,' said Gaines. "It’s biological reality, but unfortunately we live in such a time where it’s controversial to say men and women are different."




The average LPGA drive distance is 250 yards, so Jenner isn't that much better than average. The average PGA drive is 300 yards.

Furthermore, if as Jenner states "...there's a lot of testosterone left over...", that would be an indication that the hormone therapy protocol isn't being followed correctly. A drug test would therefore disqualify Her participation, would it not?


If they are going to test for drugs and now, chromosomes, why not include testosterone/estrogen levels as well?


Meaningless post.
If you think transwomen have no advantages over biological women in sports you should be able to prove it with nice cogent arguments. Care to share any evidence?

It's not even debatable but further exposing the trans lobby the thread is really good.



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 01:59 PM
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a reply to: FlyersFan2

perhaps they can enact a law that if someone spits on you, you are legally invited to beat the piss out of them.
Kind of like the "he needed killin" defence.



posted on Aug, 12 2023 @ 02:02 PM
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a reply to: Mantiss2021

don't do the juice.

who are you, Barry Bonds?




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