LGBTQ Pride Storybooks in Maryland Public Schools - the battle of national interest

a reply to: Waterglass

What I do not get is how the left fights all this and says it's just an alt-right conspiracy. A few years back in Canada, they broke up a child porn ring and rescued almost 400 children. That isn't a typo, so not 4, or 40... When they find these children porn sites on the web there are 10,000s of people registered in them. 10,000s of kids are pouring over the border with no idea who the adults are that are with them.

This is recent...

James Gordon Meek (born 1968) is a former ABC News senior producer and senior counter-terrorism advisor to the U.S. House Committee on Homeland Security. In 2022, the FBI raided his Virginia home and seized hundreds of sexual abuse materials showing children "from infancy", following Meek's boast of having raped a toddler and repeatedly sharing an explicit video. The DOJ focused on those images where it was known Meek was the "original abuser" who had created them; it was determined Meek had been "grooming minors for sexual favors" and in July 2023 he plead guilty, without a sentencing recommendation, to avoid a trial.

It becomes a norm for them like the people who live around you. The left talk about "Pizza Gate" like it's a big joke, but it was never investigated and just attacked by journalists like old Meek here. The scary part is if Pizza Gate is real it's like the size of the Donomo pizza chain if one does the math as to how many people are out there who are going after children in one way or another.

Then people here on ATS and other places blow off a book that teaches kids as young as 4th grade or below how to set up a Grindr account. It's gay, so all good... geez. They attack what FL is trying to do without even looking at what they are trying to do and just start screaming anti-gay laws!

I really do not understand it all...

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
I've watched a lot of predator catcher type shows on YouTube/Rumble. They got really popular in the last handful of years. The good ones serve multiple purposes. First and foremost, to get predators off the street and/or their communities made aware of them and their misdeeds. Secondly, to try to understand what made them a pedophile and to try to understand why they did/do it. These people are far more common than some may realize, and come from all walks of life. You probably know one and don't even know it. They don't all act on it. For many their feelings aren't a choice, they didn't just wake up one day and choose to be a pedophile. In most cases something traumatic happened to them at a younger age. While their feelings may not always be a fault of their own, it is of course not an excuse because children are involved.

Why I bring this up I will explain further down.

It's like how many if not most in the LQBTQ community didn't choose their orientation. It's in their brain, it's who they are mentally (a point of Annee's that I agree with). They can't fight it and should be free to be themselves.

Something most people in these threads agree with. We don't care, on that front.

But as I've said many times, there is a cancer in the LGBTQ+ community that needs to be called out and condemned. And I will say again, it has to do with the children. What disturbs me the most is time and time again in these threads when there is pushback about trans education in school, we are told we are behind the times, stuck, fearful, hateful, etc.

Our concerns are ignored and unacknowledged, and our words twisted to make us look like the bad actors.

I will say again that I have no problem with kids being taught acceptance and made aware of various walks of life. No issue whatsoever with supporting a young person that is experiencing gender dysphoria or has questions about their identity. Nobody should feel their isn't a place for them with love and understanding.

The line is crossed when that support is a guise for grooming. When that "support" is sexualization. Does all the sexualized literature need to be brought up again? Do the teachers bringing sex toys to the classroom need to be brought up again? Does the homework assignments about who you want to kiss in the classroom need to be brought up again? Do the teachers telling their students not to talk to their parents about this subject matter need to be brought up again? Do the school boards demonizing parents for their problems with stuff like that need to be brought up again? Do the school boards that get caught intentionally keeping parents in the dark need to be brought up again? Does the fact students can start gender affirmation care without their parent's knowledge or consent need to be brought up again? Etc Etc Etc

So back to the pedos. In these catch videos I've watched I've noticed some common themes. I count these as red flags to look for when attempting to identify predators.

1. They place themselves in work positions / daily activities that places them around children.
2. They slowly groom the children starting with seemingly innocent questions about their sexual feelings or activities.
3. Begin to suggest different sexual activities the children should try.
4. Make the child feel as if they understand them when nobody else will (including parents).
5. Warn the children that telling their parents about them and the conversations will have a negative result.
6. Assure the child that love is love, and is a beautiful thing, no matter the age.
7. Make the child feel accepted by them, and suggest those that don't understand are bigoted.
8. Assure the child that they are there to support and educate them.

Now when the pedos that are trans/gay/bi are caught and questioned (if they don't run away) why did you think this was okay? Nine out of ten times the answer goes something like this:

"When I was younger and confused or struggling with my sexual identity there was nobody there for me. To educate me, and tell me it was okay."

And almost always when asked what they think made them this way:

"I was molested as a child myself by an adult and it messed me up."

So forgive us if we have NO problem accepting the trans community. Forgive us for seeing pedo red flags and grooming, left right and center, coming from the cancer within it.

No, not all LGBTQ are pedophiles. Obviously not all pedophiles are LGBTQ+ either. Making that clear right now. My point is that there is OBVIOUS predatory behavior at play in an indoctrination agenda. All under a good cause (tolerance, awareness, acceptance). We all know sex trafficking and the sexualization of children is real, and goes deep. The tentacles of sick degeneracy go deep and spread far. What makes anyone think the one place children most easily accessed and their minds more easily shaped would be left unaffected?

So I do find it a red flag that some of those pushing for the good in teaching tolerance, awareness, and acceptance, ignore the obvious facts, that that is not the agenda going on. Those are nothing more than the sheep's clothing the wolves are wearing.

Excellent post!

People are people —individuals — not a group think.

The issue here (ATS) are those who automatically equate “transgender = pedophile”.

That consider transgender a choice for nefarious reasons.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer

So I do find it a red flag that some of those pushing for the good in teaching tolerance, awareness, and acceptance, ignore the obvious facts, that that is not the agenda going on. Those are nothing more than the sheep's clothing the wolves are wearing.

I have said many times that I do not want kids to be put into adult situations and just let kids be kids, gay, straight, or trans...

When I coached my boys in Texas I had to do a background check and take a class on sexual predators. Sexual predators are mostly incurrable much like a psychopath as the brain is just wired differently. This doesn't also suggest that people cannot be traumatized by it too to act this way.

The BIG takeaway is these types of people work to put themselves in a position of power over children like teachers, coaches, counselors, priests so on and so forth. I think people might be shocked to really see the percentages too. `Very little knowledge is needed sexually wise until the teen years of a child and even then it needs to be very controlled. Yes, young adults will experiment, but we don't need classes on it to show everything possible to a 14-year-old. Let them grow into their own and give them the knowledge to be safe.

Trans is a difficult subject and I think the big issue is too young is not good, so there isn't some timeline that one needs to meet or it is lost. It is actually bad before puberty as the penis is so small it is not useful in the surgery, so one is basically losing all sexual satisfaction before they even know what it is, does anyone think that is good?

The other side of all this is we know about 90% of young trans are actually just gay and so what we are seeing is 90% of kids taking hormone treatments are not trans and one day they will figure that out with lifelong side effects, is that good either?

The bottom line is there is no rush in any of this and we need to let kids find themselves without adults telling them who and what they are. This is that hard line between helping and grooming and if the left hates that word or thinks its some lat right word then they just need to look at the 100,000s of people that would love to groom kids if given the chance, so we need to call it out when we see it.

originally posted by: Annee

The issue here (ATS) are those who automatically equate “transgender = pedophile”.

No, you are wrong... People who want to "help" kids to find their sexuality are pedophiles. Trans has zero to do with it. People who just know their 2-year-old is a girl stuck in a biological boy's body are just sick and trying to live their "I wanted a girl" fantasy at the cost of their little boy. People that see it is OK to start transition at some young age are also living in some fantasy world thinking kids are mature enough to know what is best for themselves when we know that 99% of the time they are not really able to do that except for choosing their sex it seems...lol

Parents are weak and let their kids be the dominant person in the house as parents, teachers etc seem to try and be more of a friend than an adult leader in their lives.

a reply to: Xtrozero

I can read.

I know what is expressed on here.

Pedophiles are not visually recognized.

But to some here — they are.

originally posted by: Annee

Pedophiles are not visually recognized.

To ask you a real question, do you not think one day P will be added to LGBTQIA++?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

Pedophiles are not visually recognized.

To ask you a real question, do you not think one day P will be added to LGBTQIA++?

NO. It has a victim.

Years ago there was a couple scientists that claimed Pedophile was a sexual orientation (it was discussed here on ATS).

That it was as naturally inherent in the body/brain sexual makeup — just as other orientations.

They were forced to issue a retraction.

“IF” it was classified as a natural born orientation, possibly medical/psychological help would be available.

originally posted by: Annee

NO. It has a victim.

Why a victim? Because they are too young to make a mature decision if they agree to it or are you talking about being forced?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

NO. It has a victim.

Why a victim? Because they are too young to make a mature decision if they agree to it or are you talking about being forced?

Minors, mentally disabled, animals can not consent.

Of course I know where you’re going with this.

originally posted by: Annee

Of course I know where you’re going with this.

If you know then let's go there... Does allowing a minor to decide on lifelong medical changes mean they can make other adult decisions too? If pushing sexualization to younger people in school does that normalizes sex at those ages too and also opens the door for adults to have sex with children while the children agree to it?

a reply to: Annee

The issue here (ATS) are those who automatically equate “transgender = pedophile”.

More proof that you simply cannot comprehend what people are saying to you.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

Of course I know where you’re going with this.

If you know then let's go there... Does allowing a minor to decide on lifelong medical changes mean they can make other adult decisions too? If pushing sexualization to younger people in school does that normalizes sex at those ages too and also opens the door for adults to have sex with children while the children agree to it?

Parents make well-being decisions for their children all the time.

My oldest child is ADHD (back in 1973 — before it was hyped). Question: Ritalin or not. Special Ed or mainstream. Isolated desk or not.

2nd child. Most likely high functioning Autistic like her son. Unfortunately, unheard of at the time. I had no “tools” to work with.

Got all the “good” advice. There’s no such thing as ADHD — she just needs a good spanking.

On to grandson. Go read about Autism and sexuality.

Children need to be allowed to be who they are.

Adults need to get over their hangups.

If the left would just leave children alone, then there'd be no connotation with trans and pedophilia.

No one would care.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

Pedophiles are not visually recognized.

To ask you a real question, do you not think one day P will be added to LGBTQIA++?

It won't be P, it will be MAP..it's close to happening.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
If the left would just leave children alone, then there'd be no connotation with trans and pedophilia.

No one would care.

But most pedophiles turn out to be white Christians.

Not likely of the Left.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
If the left would just leave children alone, then there'd be no connotation with trans and pedophilia.

No one would care.

But most pedophiles turn out to be white Christians.

Not likely of the Left.

Off topic, strawman, bullcrap.

If the trans community would leave children alone, then there'd be no connotation with trans and pedophilia.

No one would care.

originally posted by: Annee
But most pedophiles turn out to be white Christians. .

THAT is a load of garbage.
You may hear about them more, but that's because it makes great headlines.
Pedophilia knows no race or creed or ethnicity etc.

Study finds nearly 45% of trans-women inmates convicted of sex crimes Toronto Sun

A shocking new Correctional Service of Canada study has revealed that 44% of male-to-female transgender inmates are behind bars for sexual offences.

Among the findings:
— Of the 99 inmate sample group, 44% of the trans women convicts are sex offenders.
— 82% of gender-diverse offenders were trans-women with an average age of 42 years old and almost half were serving “indeterminate” sentences.

Do the math. Stop pretending everyone is daft and jumping to conclusions. The goal of pushing sexual identity on kids is to groom kids sexually. STOP.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
If the left would just leave children alone, then there'd be no connotation with trans and pedophilia.

No one would care.

If the Catholic Church would just leave children alone, then there'd be no connotation with trans and pedophilia.

No one would care.

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: DBCowboy
If the left would just leave children alone, then there'd be no connotation with trans and pedophilia.

No one would care.

If the Catholic Church would just leave children alone, then there'd be no connotation with trans and pedophilia.

No one would care.

Stawman, off-topic, bullcrap. Start a thread or stay on topic.

If the left would just leave children alone, then there'd be no connotation with trans and pedophilia.

No one would care.