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originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
Evangelicans are rejecting "Liberal" teachings of Jesus
Maybe it's not my calling to be a Fierce Warrior.
originally posted by: Cwantas
originally posted by: TTU77
originally posted by: Cwantas
originally posted by: TTU77
originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
originally posted by: pthena
Now my suspicion is that many who think themselves Christian may also be role-players. As such, earthly-minded hypocrites, would gladly assume the role of world power broker, or at the least, foot soldiers of the worldly power brokers. Therefore they will gladly fight to the death to secure a Christian dominant society, or endorse those fighters.
I have had my share of spiritual battles with forces I cannot claim to understand, and I have been at the mercy of very sadistic entities over the years, I won't get into the specifics, but there is nothing worse than feeling abandoned by God for me.
I just want to understand and hopefully one day see peac eon earth for all peaceful peoples and cultures, and end to war and poverty and an end to suffering.
I will not deny that I desire very much the promise of Heaven on Earth and the Kingdom Restored, and I see signs of such a world every day, people of various faiths and backgrounds all living peacefully and working together for a common shared goal.
That to me is Heaven. One doesn't need to be Christian exclusively, because God created All of Us.
Sometimes I dissociate from the news online, the trial and struggle in the world, the violence the war, the suffering and poverty because I don't neccecarily experience it in my own world as severely as others.
I look after the homeless, but I'm living subpoverty on disability benefits and rarely have material gains to help or assist as I'm barely making ends meet myself, but I try to be nice and helpful whenever possible. There are a lot of other groups in the area with more resources who step in where I cannot.
I am also aware of a great wickedness in the world right now, and I'm powerless against it.
Would I like to see these abuses purged?
Of course.
I would love and America where everyone had food and shelter, healthcare and the right to life.
I'm fighting for it, and am frequently called a socialist because of it.
But I digress and that's neither here nor there.
I have friends who would fall under the category of "subversives" but they are still learning who they are, I have friends who are gay, bisexual, transgender, wiccan, pagan, satanists, but they are kind and community oriented and many of them have told me how there are members of the community who just walk up to them and tell them they are goign to hell for who they are, or how they look.
I want no part of that kind of heaven.
I just worry because a lot of people these days professing loudly about their Christian Values hold anything but, and do no good works, instead squander their good fortune and worldly blessings and excess on their own self indulgence who seem they'd be more inclined to "wipe out" and exterminate anyone who didn't fit their aesthetic or worldview, or whom was percieved to be a drain on resources.
Targeting easily identified weaker targets is called scapegoating.
I grew up in that world, and I know how closeminded and ruthless these folks can be when they decide they've had enough.
It just breaks my heart.
Truly, a true Christian cannot ever possibly cede the possibility its possible to enter heaven without Christ, for all other religions require good works and to be good enough to enter heaven. That is not Christianity, for why then did Christ die if even a single person could enter heaven without Him. He died because it is impossible, thus absolutely necessary He had to die to save us, to humble Himself to be fully man and enter into time and be humiliated and killed on our sakes, willingly and do so without ever knowing sin, therefore only He earned Heaven, and through Him, we may also have eternal life and resurrection with God.
You believe Christ was a sacrifice for us, who's us exactly, you mean every person on Earth?
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life
So His sacrifice was only for those who believe in Him?
originally posted by: randomuser
originally posted by: Cwantas
originally posted by: TTU77
originally posted by: Cwantas
originally posted by: TTU77
originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
originally posted by: pthena
Now my suspicion is that many who think themselves Christian may also be role-players. As such, earthly-minded hypocrites, would gladly assume the role of world power broker, or at the least, foot soldiers of the worldly power brokers. Therefore they will gladly fight to the death to secure a Christian dominant society, or endorse those fighters.
I have had my share of spiritual battles with forces I cannot claim to understand, and I have been at the mercy of very sadistic entities over the years, I won't get into the specifics, but there is nothing worse than feeling abandoned by God for me.
I just want to understand and hopefully one day see peac eon earth for all peaceful peoples and cultures, and end to war and poverty and an end to suffering.
I will not deny that I desire very much the promise of Heaven on Earth and the Kingdom Restored, and I see signs of such a world every day, people of various faiths and backgrounds all living peacefully and working together for a common shared goal.
That to me is Heaven. One doesn't need to be Christian exclusively, because God created All of Us.
Sometimes I dissociate from the news online, the trial and struggle in the world, the violence the war, the suffering and poverty because I don't neccecarily experience it in my own world as severely as others.
I look after the homeless, but I'm living subpoverty on disability benefits and rarely have material gains to help or assist as I'm barely making ends meet myself, but I try to be nice and helpful whenever possible. There are a lot of other groups in the area with more resources who step in where I cannot.
I am also aware of a great wickedness in the world right now, and I'm powerless against it.
Would I like to see these abuses purged?
Of course.
I would love and America where everyone had food and shelter, healthcare and the right to life.
I'm fighting for it, and am frequently called a socialist because of it.
But I digress and that's neither here nor there.
I have friends who would fall under the category of "subversives" but they are still learning who they are, I have friends who are gay, bisexual, transgender, wiccan, pagan, satanists, but they are kind and community oriented and many of them have told me how there are members of the community who just walk up to them and tell them they are goign to hell for who they are, or how they look.
I want no part of that kind of heaven.
I just worry because a lot of people these days professing loudly about their Christian Values hold anything but, and do no good works, instead squander their good fortune and worldly blessings and excess on their own self indulgence who seem they'd be more inclined to "wipe out" and exterminate anyone who didn't fit their aesthetic or worldview, or whom was percieved to be a drain on resources.
Targeting easily identified weaker targets is called scapegoating.
I grew up in that world, and I know how closeminded and ruthless these folks can be when they decide they've had enough.
It just breaks my heart.
Truly, a true Christian cannot ever possibly cede the possibility its possible to enter heaven without Christ, for all other religions require good works and to be good enough to enter heaven. That is not Christianity, for why then did Christ die if even a single person could enter heaven without Him. He died because it is impossible, thus absolutely necessary He had to die to save us, to humble Himself to be fully man and enter into time and be humiliated and killed on our sakes, willingly and do so without ever knowing sin, therefore only He earned Heaven, and through Him, we may also have eternal life and resurrection with God.
You believe Christ was a sacrifice for us, who's us exactly, you mean every person on Earth?
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life
So His sacrifice was only for those who believe in Him?
Jesus' sacrifice was illustrated by the copper serpent that Moses erected in the wilderness. When the ungrateful people started to moan and complain against Moses' leadership over them, and thus Jehovah God himself, Jehovah took offense at it and sent poisonous serpents among them. They pleaded with Moses to intercede on their behalf and Moses prayed to Jehovah to please turn away the plague from Israel. And Jehovah told Moses to raise up a copper serpent and to tell the people they must look at it and thus keep alive. And so anyone bit by the serpents who put faith in Jehovah God, and were obedient to his Messiah, Moses, would obediently look at the copper serpent and thus keep alive.
Jesus is the serpent who was raised on the torture stake for our sins. And yes, in order to have salvation you must exercise faith in his ransom. He is "the way, the truth, and the life." The way to our heavenly Father, Jehovah. All truths are revealed in Jesus Christ, and we only gain everlasting life by means of showing faith in his ransom.
"So the people came to Moses and said: “We have sinned by speaking against Jehovah and against you. Intercede with Jehovah so that he may remove the serpents from us.” And Moses interceded on behalf of the people. 8 Then Jehovah said to Moses: “Make a replica of a poisonous snake and put it on a pole. Then when anyone has been bitten, he will have to look at it in order to keep alive.” 9 Moses at once made a serpent of copper and put it on the pole, and whenever a serpent had bitten a man and he looked at the copper serpent, he survived.-Numbers 21:7-9.
"For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who recognizes the Son and exercises faith in him should have everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day.”- John 6:40.
Learn the lesson of the copper serpent.
TTU77, you do not display a fierce attitude. I appreciate the attitude and spirit with which you answer.
originally posted by: randomuser
a reply to: Cwantas
And Jesus used the serpent when telling his followers how to behave. Cautious as a serpent, yet innocent as a dove:
“Look! I am sending you out as sheep among wolves; so prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet innocent as doves."-Matthew 10:16.
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Cwantas
The use of a serpent as a symbol in medicine is nothing sinister and has it's roots in ancient Greece:
www.livescience.com...
How is the NHS evil?
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Cwantas
Well, I have direct experience of the NHS. Do you?
Saved my life twice, gave me a new hip and saved Mrs Carpy, too.
Moore went to to say that he did not think it would be possible to "fix" Christianity by "fighting a war for the soul of evangelicalism," urging his concerned brethren to instead fight "small and local" battles like refusing to go along with the current "church culture."
In the early 1990s, prior to entering the ministry, Moore was an aide to U.S. Representative Gene Taylor of Mississippi, a Democrat who later switched political parties and joined the Republican Party in 2014.
originally posted by: Merman
a reply to: GENERAL EYES
They are wrong as there is nothing liberal about Christ. He is as severe as any of the OT prophets and even more severe.
What is liberal about this:
Matthew 10:34: “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
Luke 12:5: "....fear the One who, after He has killed has authority to cast into Gehenna; yes, I tell you, fear Him."
Matthew 5:29: "....it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to be thrown into Gehenna."
Matthew 24: 21 -22: For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now-and never to be equaled again. 22 "If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
After this read ALL of Revelation. It is a horror story for the whole human race that is manifesting in full force as I write. Read Revelation to see how much of the earth the Angels are destroying and will destroy.
Maybe it's not my calling to be a Fierce Warrior.
You were academically corrupt using that without sourcing me as the reference. You and I both know you took that from my thread yesterday.
I neither trust you for your timidity and being too much of a limp biscuit and I certainly don't trust the depraved, hypocritical evangelicals who vote for the disease that is Trump. If both of you are doing what your own hearts tell you and not understanding or even listening to what Christ and His Saints tell you then you are at the best gnostic and at the worst hypocrites. You need to read the BOOK and believe what it tells you, not make up a story of your own. You are not God's Word and neither are the evangelicals who are wolves in sheeps' guise. Look at their pastors! They are all millionaires having robbed their own congregations so they even may have a private jet in some cases. They all screw around behind their wives' congregations' backs. Their wives are happy to turn a blind eye because they have lovely houses with tidy lawns. That is not Christian. They are the Congregation of Satan and they will be swept away like burnt old stumps after the fire in the flash flood.
Do you dare to call me a liar for what I have told you here today or for what I wrote yesterday? See what happens if you call me a liar because what I am writing is from you know where. You are not allowed to call the Holy Spirit a liar. If you do then it is very serious.
I am telling you, my dunked biscuit amigo, that I am telling you the truth. Christ is not a limp biscuit. Yes, in spiritual terms, He is as fierce as David in battile and you know it.
When He returns He will be like this,
Revelation 19:11-16
"The Rider on a White Horse
11 Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. 12 His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. 13 He is clothed in a robe dipped in[a] blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. 14 And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. 15 From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords."
HE JUDGES AND MAKES WAR.
That is from the Angel telling John who Christ will be when He returns. Do you believe your hippy heart or do you believe John and the Angel?
Your hippy hearts are turning you all limp and you are not defending yourselves or your God. I am not like you. I am a fighter. i do not go gently into that good night. I will fight for my Lord. I am not a wobbling jelly, too frightened to face the dark symphony of THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST.
There is a way to be a warrior and never throw a punch. I have always turned the other cheek. I never had a fight. Many of my enemies are actually DEAD in real terms for what they did to me. It scared me to watch what became of them.
Yes, I am a warrior for Christ but I never throw a punch, swipe my sword or shoot my gun. Christ's Sword is THE WORD. Did not John even tell you what it is. I am the ONWARDS CHRISTIAN SOULJAH!
Revelation 19:15: "Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty."
His Sword is in His mouth; SWORD, WORD (S)WORD.
In your thread how often did you even bother to quote Christ or His people? How many times have I done it? Who is being true to THE WORD and who is being true to their own timidity and own version as if they are their own Christ?
e Messiah. That was the starting point. The religious authorities were very angry, concerned and upset about that because they considered him a false messiah and they wanted to arrest him and execute him. Jesus made it even harder for them on the Monday because he went straight into the Temple compound and turned the tables over of the moneychangers, and those exchanging animals and birds for the sacrificial system. That was an act of major confrontation.
That is the claim that Jesus is a false messiah. Just before Jesus' Triumphal Entry, we have evidence of what the Sanhedrin was thinking, in John 11: 47, it says ‘Then the chief priests and the Pharisees called a meeting of the Sanhedrin, “What are we accomplishing?” they asked, “Here is this man performing many signs. If we let him go on like this, everyone will believe in him, and then the Romans will come and take away both our Temple and our nation.”’ John 11:47-48, NIV
King James Bible Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.