Children of the Law of One: The Lost Teachings of Atlantis

This topic seems to have gotten out of control. You can choose to read the book or not, it does not matter in the least. It does not matter who Jon Peniel was either.

What does matter is how we treat one another. If you believe that we need to debate, criticize, and slander others, then you are wrong. The true path is through love. If you care for proof, look at the core concept of anything that has a good meaning behind it, and you will find love.

Whether we are: trying to become enlightened, searching out our history, or just living life, we should be sharing love with everyone we meet. This will make the world a better place, and guide us to whatever it is we are looking for.

Love always and hate never.

reply to post by Jpmon1


Truth is always better than lies. Jon Peniel is a lie. His 'wisdom' suffers greatly from that.

reply to post by Hanslune


The truth is love, nothing else matters.

I created an account specifically to contribute my opinion regarding The Children of the Law of One.

I have been on a spiritual path my entire life, my awareness guided and cultivated as long as I can remember. There has been so much love, and so much pain. So much beauty, and so much illusion. It is all so very humbling.

During all this my mind has been gathering and comparing truths as best as it and my heart can discern. It appears to me that the Children of The Law of One contain the intersection of many truths. It is that which remains invariant. I see the Oneness everywhere now. All the teachings, from Christianity to Bhuddism to tribal mysticisms have the same core, the same underlying universal/divine principles. Yes, it is "merely" neurology and psychology and magic, and everything else. All mortally encapsulated perspectives on greater truths.

The text was written by an enlightened master possessed of particular skill with the English language. It is especially written in an easily digestable manner. For it is not enlightened, connected, truly conscious beings who need this information, who read these boards, who search for truth or otherwise seek to fill the emptiness of their separation, but all the rest of us, the poor bastards who have come to find themselves astray.

The truths in the book are simple. It is not the complexity of the spiritual knowledge, but the dedication and purity of intention with which one walks the consequent paths. Most people struggle with a healthy diet, much less a thoroughly healthy body & mind. It is the natural, basic, day-to-day choices and expressions which modulate our energies and structure our neural pathways that are the hardest to dedicate oneself to, as they require the sacrifice of the erroneous will of our separate selves.

The truth is out there in so many forms, seeking to connect with us in every way possible. Most of us could have the truth tatooed on our faces, and we would look in the mirror every day trying to rub out those annoying smudges.

You are Consciousness. It is your Choice. Enjoy

reply to post by evenbrutis


There are dozens of people claiming to have the 'answer' why should we believe this one person - especially one who has notable failures in believability in the real world?

reply to post by Hanslune


Believe nobody. Search and examine for yourself. Apply for yourself.

There are indeed a great many people with the same message. It is the same core message that is within all the major scriptures of the world, and is taught by all the masters of the world:

There is One Creator.
We are All His Children.
Only through Unselfish Love can we once again resonate with the One.

The reason we are here in this world of illusion is because we chose to experience something other than Oneness and Unselfish Love for all of the One Creator.

This is the core message of all prophets who would return you to your Creator.

What is there to believe? We all know this to be true. It is everywhere.
Only our own selfish fears and desires inhibit us from seeing and living this most simple of Truths.

Originally posted by evenbrutis
reply to post by Hanslune

 

There is One Creator.

Howdy Evenbrutis

It would appear you have not heard of Confuscianism, Taoism, Hinduism, or Shinto nor any of the older failed religions none of which agree with the above. There is no agreement on religious matters, which isn't suprizing given the number of religions thought of by people to try and explain the functioning of the world.

As I'm most familar with Shinto would you mind comparing Jon P's message with it basic tenets?

Im sorry to say this. People who are doing meditations from this book have NO idea where it will take you.

www.christian-mommies.com...

dangerofchi.org...

I hope from the bottom of my heart that EVERYONE who practices meditation reads those stories.

Jesus Christ is the ONLY WAY to GOD, there is no other way. You can pray for universal spirit for protection but, it will only take you farther from God. Those meditations and emptying your mind opens your body to demonic forces. Im serious.


Once you realize it... You will fear but, there is a way:

Surrender your life to Jesus Christ, who is the ONLY Way and The Truth and The Life.

I have been reading the replies to this post, and all i can say without trying to offend anyone or everyone is that the arguments are pointless, for we know not enough. The book and teachings will reach those that it was meant to reach fullstop.

I have read and re read the book, and from my perspective the teachings have some real gems in them, it has given me new insight into things within the bible for example.

Take from it what you will or leave it alone, there are many paths.

Also my BS meter which is pretty good usually only went off a couple of times, which was with stuff that was not related to the teachings, butside issues like "buy this cd", it certainly does not negate or take away fromthe teachings, i also am quite well informed and have read the torah,bible,quran. out of the 3 i would say this has been the most enlightning to date, with the most human teachings also. If we were all to act the same way as the teachings are trying to teach, then please explain too me how anything bad could come from it? positive message, that is all.

reply to post by slave


Hi there,
I found your posts on a search for Children of the Law of One. I was a student of Jon Peniel's for 27 years, and I can speak factually about some of the issues discussed. I guess the main thing I'd like to say is that, while some of the stories he had to tell me were rather hard to believe, this man lived/walked/did the talk. He is the most kind, compassionate, courageous and funny person I ever met. He spoke sincerely of his bizarre experiences, and my vote is that whether you feel it's all bs about Atlantis, the Humanimals, extraterrestrials, etc, AND, whether you feel it's all warmed over stuff that's already been written about, the core message is really useful and transformative if you put it into practice. When I was young, in my first Music Theory class, our teacher told us, "There is nothing new under the Sun, so don't worry if what you're writing sounds a lot like something else you've heard. We're all just mainly processing and regurgitating what we have been exposed to." I feel like this is similar. So some folks on here would prefer to raise their eyebrows at the weird stuff in here, and therefore perhaps overlook the important, and yes, extremely OLD messages that have surfaced throughout the history of Humankind on this planet. And YES, it's been said over and over and over for ages by different people, in slightly different ways, but always for a good reason. I applaud your recognition of the important messages and vibes in this wonderful book which was written by the most kind, gentle and loving person I ever met! xoxoxo Good for you! Don't let the nay-sayers take the wind out of your sails! :-) J

reply to post by slave

Beautifully put. You cut right through the jive which tries to minimize the timeless, true and Universal message in this book. Your post is actually more like a poem than just a post. I like that. What I've realized over the years is that folks who are ready to put the message to use see it, and those who are not ready, sit and nit pick small side issues to avoid the truth.

Ok so is there any more news on the validity of the authors claims?

originally posted by: Theicon
Ok so is there any more news on the validity of the authors claims?

I havent heard a word about the book or the author in ages. I will say however, the book is an excellent read whether its allegorical or factual.

a reply to: slave

yay! 88

originally posted by: Hanslune
reply to post by Jpmon1

 

Truth is always better than lies. Jon Peniel is a lie. His 'wisdom' suffers greatly from that.

It's not always better. During world war II, the allies spent quite a lot of effort attempting to send "disinformation" or lies to German intelligence, with good result.

Lying to your enemies is just another step on the way to defeating them.

But we also have enemies inside of us. If your enemy is greed, for example, you might tell yourself a certain pathway will make you rich, in order to get yourself to feel like following it. I figure its harmless as long as you know you're lying, so you don't feel too disappointed later.


Some people desperately want to get their answers from Atlantis, but there is no evidence in the surviving texts that Atlantis had anything to offer a spiritualist. According to Plato, they were tyrants who attempted to invade the mainland and enslave everyone else to provide for their own decadence. Who bred armies of giants that needed impossible amounts of food.

Tell yourself whatever you need to tell yourself. Just remember to leave a trail of breadcrumbs behind so you can climb back out of the fantasy later.

originally posted by: Hanslune

Im sorry to say this. People who are doing meditations from this book have NO idea where it will take you.

www.christian-mommies.com...

dangerofchi.org...

I hope from the bottom of my heart that EVERYONE who practices meditation reads those stories.

Jesus Christ is the ONLY WAY to GOD, there is no other way. You can pray for universal spirit for protection but, it will only take you farther from God. Those meditations and emptying your mind opens your body to demonic forces. Im serious.

He is the only way to YOUR god.

Once you realize it... You will fear but, there is a way:

Surrender your life to Jesus Christ, who is the ONLY Way and The Truth and The Life.

I'm not particularly terrified.

People who are fearful should follow Jesus. He is the god of fearful people, and he can help them not to be quite so afraid all the time.

If you've got other problems, there are other gods and/or philosophies that/who can help you.

originally posted by: slave
Like I said, normally my head would say NO NO NO (which it did) but my heart said YES. It was truely a bizarre experience.

Now, they give away for free about 1/3 of the book on the internet. I do believe people are given enough options for free to determine if the book seems interesting or not.

Here's a quote from the first page of the book.


"Within all of us is a "lie detector", a silent "inner voice", that offers us the greatest potential to discern truth and reality. People have "fooled" experts with so-called "physical proof", but the inner voice is never fooled. [The "inner voice" could also sometimes be termed as a "gut feeling", "intuition" or "women's intuition"- but it can also be much more than that.] You may not be very "in touch" with it at this time, but you can be if you want to. This inner voice is a part of God within you that knows what is true and what isn't - if you will just "hear" it. It doesn't "talk", it is just a "knowingness". The only reasons behind people not "hearing" their inner voice are fear, desires, and selfishness. If you can transcend those things even for a moment, you will have the most reliable source of discernment that exists. Even when all "external appearances" of truth say one thing, and your inner voice says another, you can bet that your inner voice is right."

www.atlantis.to...

This is universal truth that can be found in almost any spiritual tradition.

originally posted by: Byrd

In those sections, the writer reveals how little they know about the actual origin of the name YHVH. Defying 3,000 years of cultural knowledge and scholarship, the writer instead wanders off to a plane of imagination and borrows from a lot of modern books. Actually, he appears to borrow from the summaries of the books and doesn't seem to have read many of them in depth.

You realize, right? Most of that "cultural knowledge and scholarship" is just people studying a movement similar to the one your criticizing.

It just started a long time ago, and managed to attract a lot of followers.

Similar to this "Atlantean" religion, it dismissively waived its hand at any previous historical knowledge by estimating the entire history of planet Earth to be only a few thousand years, and giving lifespans in the order of multiple centuries to many of the actors in that history.

This took me some time and deep contemplation to grasp the entirety of, and the great significance of it.

The significance of it is that it will hopefully turn off your BS detector and lead you to not research the origins of the name.

The "atlantean" document is very shallow -- without the depth of the original material:

So you prefer deep manure over shallow manure? Not me. I think the shallow stuff is easier to wipe off of my shoes after stepping in it.

The name, YHVH ties into the Kaballah ( www.themystica.com... ) in very rich and complex ways.

It's a wonderfully deep and rich tradition.
www.ohalah.org...

I think that if you start reading about the REAL meaning of YHVH, you will quickly find how little this "atlantean" really knows.

Try this introduction to the Kaballah.:
www.byzant.com...

It probably started out really shallow, and gradually got more and more depth added to it over the centuries. It now has the smell of truly ancient and decrepit manure.

a reply to: slave

Watch out for synchronicities and if you want to feel the energy of truth, pretend that you do, fake it till you make it, and convince your self that you know and you will know, be open to anything is very important. You shouldn't be surprised, it may make u uneasy at first though.

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous

originally posted by: Byrd

In those sections, the writer reveals how little they know about the actual origin of the name YHVH. Defying 3,000 years of cultural knowledge and scholarship, the writer instead wanders off to a plane of imagination and borrows from a lot of modern books. Actually, he appears to borrow from the summaries of the books and doesn't seem to have read many of them in depth.

You realize, right? Most of that "cultural knowledge and scholarship" is just people studying a movement similar to the one your criticizing.

It just started a long time ago, and managed to attract a lot of followers.

Similar to this "Atlantean" religion, it dismissively waived its hand at any previous historical knowledge by estimating the entire history of planet Earth to be only a few thousand years, and giving lifespans in the order of multiple centuries to many of the actors in that history.

This took me some time and deep contemplation to grasp the entirety of, and the great significance of it.

The significance of it is that it will hopefully turn off your BS detector and lead you to not research the origins of the name.

The "atlantean" document is very shallow -- without the depth of the original material:

So you prefer deep manure over shallow manure? Not me. I think the shallow stuff is easier to wipe off of my shoes after stepping in it.

The name, YHVH ties into the Kaballah ( www.themystica.com... ) in very rich and complex ways.

It's a wonderfully deep and rich tradition.
www.ohalah.org...

I think that if you start reading about the REAL meaning of YHVH, you will quickly find how little this "atlantean" really knows.

Try this introduction to the Kaballah.:
www.byzant.com...

It probably started out really shallow, and gradually got more and more depth added to it over the centuries. It now has the smell of truly ancient and decrepit manure.

The existence of YHWH as a God may indeed be manure. However, one cannot argue that the origin and usage of the term itself is manure.

Harte

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous

originally posted by: Byrd

In those sections, the writer reveals how little they know about the actual origin of the name YHVH. Defying 3,000 years of cultural knowledge and scholarship, the writer instead wanders off to a plane of imagination and borrows from a lot of modern books. Actually, he appears to borrow from the summaries of the books and doesn't seem to have read many of them in depth.

You realize, right? Most of that "cultural knowledge and scholarship" is just people studying a movement similar to the one your criticizing.

Actually, it's people following the trail presented by language... the written word. You can check the pedigree of a word to see when it arose and who used it and how it was used.

The writer of the Atlantis material decides to throw that all away and rely on "intuition." It's clear that nothing had been studied and no real reading was done. They believe that their imagination trumps what thousands of years of human writings said.

The name, YHVH ties into the Kaballah ( www.themystica.com... ) in very rich and complex ways.

It's a wonderfully deep and rich tradition.
www.ohalah.org...

I think that if you start reading about the REAL meaning of YHVH, you will quickly find how little this "atlantean" really knows.

Try this introduction to the Kaballah.:
www.byzant.com...

It probably started out really shallow, and gradually got more and more depth added to it over the centuries. It now has the smell of truly ancient and decrepit manure.



The Kaballah did not start out as a shallow tool, but was a fairly deep one arising from even older traditions.