Dr. Jordan Peterson launching online university to counter left-wing bias

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Mahogany
He's gonna find the best lecturers in the world and bring them over to teach at this online university, where a bachelor's degree costs only $4,000.

How does the math work on this, is each professor going to have to have a few thousand students for this to be profitable?

How long will it take to get to such enrollment numbers, because only at that point can you start recruiting the best professors to come over and be able to pay them. Until then the beginner staff will have to work for pretty much nothing, or just volunteer.

This could work, but it just sounds so fishy. It could be another Trump University scam where thousands of innocent people get duped out of million of dollars, and in the end get neither an education, nor their money back.

Virtual.

Only realistic answer.

Yep, that's why it says online.

That doesn't mean people won't ask questions and they won't have tests and assignments and papers to grade. A one hour class creates many hours of post-class work for the instructor. If they don't provide the same quality of education, they won't be accredited. Which means a student is just throwing money away.

How do you manage the thousands of students necessary for a $4,000 4-year diploma. That's a $1,000 per year. Each professor would have to have a couple of thousand students, concurrently, for this to work, for everyone to get paid, for the university to be profitable, and to be able to afford the infrastructure to support all this and tens of thousands of simultaneous students in streaming classes.

Sounds to me like someone is in their manic phase, getting grandiose ideas that would have a hard time matching reality. But, we'll see.

I’m not a fan of virtual education.

My 8th grader had to go online during Covid. It was horrible.

I made him get up, put his school uniform on, and sit at the table.

I’m not raising a kid, I’m raising a responsible adult.

Don’t know what to say other than it explains …..,.

And I do wish the best for you and yours.

Yet, little gems like this show a very real disconnect.

But I do hope you do well. Regardless of ATS meanderings.

How does it show a disconnect?

It appears that you are fine with saying kids should cut themselves up and become whatever “their brain” tells them to be.
In this recent post, you appear to be a stringent person who makes their grandchild dress up as “standard uniformed student” and sit awaiting the system’s demands.
This is a disconnect. You love “the system” when it asks you to support cutting children up.
You reject “the system” if you feel it’s not rigid enough to make your grandchild adhere to the prescribed order.
It’s sorry and nasty, yet you embrace the hypocrisy.

Never mind.

Not interested in your off topic personal rant.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Mahogany
He's gonna find the best lecturers in the world and bring them over to teach at this online university, where a bachelor's degree costs only $4,000.

How does the math work on this, is each professor going to have to have a few thousand students for this to be profitable?

How long will it take to get to such enrollment numbers, because only at that point can you start recruiting the best professors to come over and be able to pay them. Until then the beginner staff will have to work for pretty much nothing, or just volunteer.

This could work, but it just sounds so fishy. It could be another Trump University scam where thousands of innocent people get duped out of million of dollars, and in the end get neither an education, nor their money back.

Virtual.

Only realistic answer.

Yep, that's why it says online.

That doesn't mean people won't ask questions and they won't have tests and assignments and papers to grade. A one hour class creates many hours of post-class work for the instructor. If they don't provide the same quality of education, they won't be accredited. Which means a student is just throwing money away.

How do you manage the thousands of students necessary for a $4,000 4-year diploma. That's a $1,000 per year. Each professor would have to have a couple of thousand students, concurrently, for this to work, for everyone to get paid, for the university to be profitable, and to be able to afford the infrastructure to support all this and tens of thousands of simultaneous students in streaming classes.

Sounds to me like someone is in their manic phase, getting grandiose ideas that would have a hard time matching reality. But, we'll see.

I’m not a fan of virtual education.

My 8th grader had to go online during Covid. It was horrible.

I made him get up, put his school uniform on, and sit at the table.

I’m not raising a kid, I’m raising a responsible adult.

Don’t know what to say other than it explains …..,.

And I do wish the best for you and yours.

Yet, little gems like this show a very real disconnect.

But I do hope you do well. Regardless of ATS meanderings.

How does it show a disconnect?

It appears that you are fine with saying kids should cut themselves up and become whatever “their brain” tells them to be.
In this recent post, you appear to be a stringent person who makes their grandchild dress up as “standard uniformed student” and sit awaiting the system’s demands.
This is a disconnect. You love “the system” when it asks you to support cutting children up.
You reject “the system” if you feel it’s not rigid enough to make your grandchild adhere to the prescribed order.
It’s sorry and nasty, yet you embrace the hypocrisy.

Never mind.

Not interested in your off topic personal rant.

Don't like your own logic reflecting back at you?

Interesting.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Mahogany
He's gonna find the best lecturers in the world and bring them over to teach at this online university, where a bachelor's degree costs only $4,000.

How does the math work on this, is each professor going to have to have a few thousand students for this to be profitable?

How long will it take to get to such enrollment numbers, because only at that point can you start recruiting the best professors to come over and be able to pay them. Until then the beginner staff will have to work for pretty much nothing, or just volunteer.

This could work, but it just sounds so fishy. It could be another Trump University scam where thousands of innocent people get duped out of million of dollars, and in the end get neither an education, nor their money back.

Virtual.

Only realistic answer.

Yep, that's why it says online.

That doesn't mean people won't ask questions and they won't have tests and assignments and papers to grade. A one hour class creates many hours of post-class work for the instructor. If they don't provide the same quality of education, they won't be accredited. Which means a student is just throwing money away.

How do you manage the thousands of students necessary for a $4,000 4-year diploma. That's a $1,000 per year. Each professor would have to have a couple of thousand students, concurrently, for this to work, for everyone to get paid, for the university to be profitable, and to be able to afford the infrastructure to support all this and tens of thousands of simultaneous students in streaming classes.

Sounds to me like someone is in their manic phase, getting grandiose ideas that would have a hard time matching reality. But, we'll see.

I’m not a fan of virtual education.

My 8th grader had to go online during Covid. It was horrible.

I made him get up, put his school uniform on, and sit at the table.

I’m not raising a kid, I’m raising a responsible adult.

Don’t know what to say other than it explains …..,.

And I do wish the best for you and yours.

Yet, little gems like this show a very real disconnect.

But I do hope you do well. Regardless of ATS meanderings.

How does it show a disconnect?

It appears that you are fine with saying kids should cut themselves up and become whatever “their brain” tells them to be.
In this recent post, you appear to be a stringent person who makes their grandchild dress up as “standard uniformed student” and sit awaiting the system’s demands.
This is a disconnect. You love “the system” when it asks you to support cutting children up.
You reject “the system” if you feel it’s not rigid enough to make your grandchild adhere to the prescribed order.
It’s sorry and nasty, yet you embrace the hypocrisy.

Never mind.

Not interested in your off topic personal rant.

Don't like your own logic reflecting back at you?

Interesting.

Again — interpretation.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Mahogany
He's gonna find the best lecturers in the world and bring them over to teach at this online university, where a bachelor's degree costs only $4,000.

How does the math work on this, is each professor going to have to have a few thousand students for this to be profitable?

How long will it take to get to such enrollment numbers, because only at that point can you start recruiting the best professors to come over and be able to pay them. Until then the beginner staff will have to work for pretty much nothing, or just volunteer.

This could work, but it just sounds so fishy. It could be another Trump University scam where thousands of innocent people get duped out of million of dollars, and in the end get neither an education, nor their money back.

Virtual.

Only realistic answer.

Yep, that's why it says online.

That doesn't mean people won't ask questions and they won't have tests and assignments and papers to grade. A one hour class creates many hours of post-class work for the instructor. If they don't provide the same quality of education, they won't be accredited. Which means a student is just throwing money away.

How do you manage the thousands of students necessary for a $4,000 4-year diploma. That's a $1,000 per year. Each professor would have to have a couple of thousand students, concurrently, for this to work, for everyone to get paid, for the university to be profitable, and to be able to afford the infrastructure to support all this and tens of thousands of simultaneous students in streaming classes.

Sounds to me like someone is in their manic phase, getting grandiose ideas that would have a hard time matching reality. But, we'll see.

I’m not a fan of virtual education.

My 8th grader had to go online during Covid. It was horrible.

I made him get up, put his school uniform on, and sit at the table.

I’m not raising a kid, I’m raising a responsible adult.

Don’t know what to say other than it explains …..,.

And I do wish the best for you and yours.

Yet, little gems like this show a very real disconnect.

But I do hope you do well. Regardless of ATS meanderings.

How does it show a disconnect?

It appears that you are fine with saying kids should cut themselves up and become whatever “their brain” tells them to be.
In this recent post, you appear to be a stringent person who makes their grandchild dress up as “standard uniformed student” and sit awaiting the system’s demands.
This is a disconnect. You love “the system” when it asks you to support cutting children up.
You reject “the system” if you feel it’s not rigid enough to make your grandchild adhere to the prescribed order.
It’s sorry and nasty, yet you embrace the hypocrisy.

Never mind.

Not interested in your off topic personal rant.

Don't like your own logic reflecting back at you?

Interesting.

Again — interpretation.

Absolutely.

Derived from our interactions and your post history.

originally posted by: Turquosie
a reply to: AlienBorg

I think it has in some universities. Definitely not all. There are still professors out there that encourage free thought and questioning the status quo.

It's true, not every professor and every course is corrupted with the ridiculous woke ideology. Sciences, engineering, and mathematics are probably the courses where the woke culture has a minimal effect. Humanities, social sciences, psychology, arts, and the so on, where the main problem is.

originally posted by: Mahogany
He's gonna find the best lecturers in the world and bring them over to teach at this online university, where a bachelor's degree costs only $4,000.

How does the math work on this, is each professor going to have to have a few thousand students for this to be profitable?

How long will it take to get to such enrollment numbers, because only at that point can you start recruiting the best professors to come over and be able to pay them. Until then the beginner staff will have to work for pretty much nothing, or just volunteer.

This could work, but it just sounds so fishy. It could be another Trump University scam where thousands of innocent people get duped out of million of dollars, and in the end get neither an education, nor their money back.

The best lecturers to be invited would naturally be what? extremist conservative? I would rather prefer teaching debates with these so called radical woke left where the doctor's philosophical, ideological and biased stance can not only be challenged but outright proven to be the wrong path society should be taking. I'd also like the doctor to have one-on-one debates with his equals who are considered (labelled by the right?) as radical left, independent and/or just liberal. A highly educated psychology professor debating with an ordinary LGBTQ person won't cut it, the debates have to have equal education within that discipline for any real learning and truth to emerge.

It's funny to me that the doctor chooses unreservedly the radical right when that political faction is at best only 21% of the total population, so I'm not sure if that is a good business plan. Heal thyself doctor.

originally posted by: Turquosie
a reply to: AlienBorg

I think the question will be; will employers look down at a celebrity university. Will it be seen as the same as something like Trump University?

It's great that he's trying to put forth a cheap university but I from the people ive talked to that left college 1-2 years ago, the woke "ideology" was not invasively present. Although, they didn't go to a university like Berkley.

Do employers look up university degrees?

One would think they would at least look up the university to see if it is accredited.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Mahogany
He's gonna find the best lecturers in the world and bring them over to teach at this online university, where a bachelor's degree costs only $4,000.

How does the math work on this, is each professor going to have to have a few thousand students for this to be profitable?

How long will it take to get to such enrollment numbers, because only at that point can you start recruiting the best professors to come over and be able to pay them. Until then the beginner staff will have to work for pretty much nothing, or just volunteer.

This could work, but it just sounds so fishy. It could be another Trump University scam where thousands of innocent people get duped out of million of dollars, and in the end get neither an education, nor their money back.

The best lecturers to be invited would naturally be what? extremist conservative? I would rather prefer teaching debates with these so called radical woke left where the doctor's philosophical, ideological and biased stance can not only be challenged but outright proven to be the wrong path society should be taking. I'd also like the doctor to have one-on-one debates with his equals who are considered (labelled by the right?) as radical left, independent and/or just liberal. A highly educated psychology professor debating with an ordinary LGBTQ person won't cut it, the debates have to have equal education within that discipline for any real learning and truth to emerge.

It's funny to me that the doctor chooses unreservedly the radical right when that political faction is at best only 21% of the total population, so I'm not sure if that is a good business plan. Heal thyself doctor.

I am afraid you're wrong for once more.
Some course can be given online, some others have to be given at University because you need the facilities, equipment, laboratories.

There are already bogus course in Universities where students attend in person and are taught whatever nonsense comes from the mouth of the woke 'professors' in humanities, sociology, psychology, and related areas.

Staring with a degree in gender studies as mentioned in an earlier post.

If I was in HR and some noob came in flashing a digital online degree with no experience, I'd laugh in his face; I don't care how "unwoke" he/she is.... Want to actually be considered for a well paying job...show the HR person transcripts from an accredited institution.

Anyone can download a template and print themselves a Phd in any discipline they chose.

www.diplomacompany.com...

a reply to: AlienBorg

I doubt his online university will ever be accredited because he will be leaving out sectors of society and historical truths that don't fit his narrative. As a business model I think it won't get off the ground.

Educational and historical truths can't be ignored.

www.historians.org...(may-202

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg

I doubt his online university will ever be accredited because he will be leaving out sectors of society and historical truths that don't fit his narrative. As a business model I think it won't get off the ground.

Educational and historical truths can't be ignored.

www.historians.org...(may-202

What historical truths and sectors of society are you talking about??

One is for sure, gender studies and woke courses will not be given as part of the new program.

Btw your link is irrelevant and you don't need a link in every post you're making. It makes things much worse.

a reply to: AlienBorg

One is for sure, gender studies and woke courses will not be given as part of the new program.

If a person wants to go to college and pays for their own tuition, wants to take gender studies, and every woke course in the curriculum and major in underwater basket weaving, It's really none of your business....is it?

Why the obsession of what other people do?

www.webmd.com...

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: AlienBorg

One is for sure, gender studies and woke courses will not be given as part of the new program.

If a person wants to go to college and pays for their own tuition, wants to take gender studies, and every woke course in the curriculum and major in underwater basket weaving, It's really none of your business....is it?

Why the obsession of what other people do?

www.webmd.com...

That's a strawman argument btw.

Discussion was made about the quality of online courses, to which I replied that you can still get very low quality education by attending Universities in person and having classes in gender studies and this kind of nonsense.

Please stop defending the gender ideology.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: AlienBorg

One is for sure, gender studies and woke courses will not be given as part of the new program.

If a person wants to go to college and pays for their own tuition, wants to take gender studies, and every woke course in the curriculum and major in underwater basket weaving, It's really none of your business....is it?

Why the obsession of what other people do?

www.webmd.com...

That's a strawman argument btw.

Discussion was made about the quality of online courses, to which I replied that you can still get very low quality education by attending Universities in person and having classes in gender studies and this kind of nonsense.

Please stop defending the gender ideology.

How am I defending gender ideology. What I'm defending is the freedom for people to live any lifestyle they choose. Even you....

What do you have against freedom.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: AlienBorg

One is for sure, gender studies and woke courses will not be given as part of the new program.

If a person wants to go to college and pays for their own tuition, wants to take gender studies, and every woke course in the curriculum and major in underwater basket weaving, It's really none of your business....is it?

Why the obsession of what other people do?

www.webmd.com...

That's a strawman argument btw.

Discussion was made about the quality of online courses, to which I replied that you can still get very low quality education by attending Universities in person and having classes in gender studies and this kind of nonsense.

Please stop defending the gender ideology.

How am I defending gender ideology. What I'm defending is the freedom for people to live any lifestyle they choose. Even you....

What do you have against freedom.

Nobody has ever questioned the right people have to live as they want and as they feel like it. You keep using with the same strawman arguments.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: AlienBorg

One is for sure, gender studies and woke courses will not be given as part of the new program.

If a person wants to go to college and pays for their own tuition, wants to take gender studies, and every woke course in the curriculum and major in underwater basket weaving, It's really none of your business....is it?

Why the obsession of what other people do?

www.webmd.com...

You have a cute little way of describing everything backwards, to use the old Alinsky tactic of “do it do it do it do it …. Then cry that somebody else did it”.
What exactly would be forced on you ?
The loss of shoving DEI ESG CRT BLM LGBT up everyone’s butt ?
If they won’t let you be pushy and rude and obnoxious …… start screaming that they’re pushy and rude and obnoxious.
Something so childish is easily spotted, especially the 1000th time.

a reply to: AlienBorg


Two years ago I was studying a masters in physics at the Freie Universtiät Berlin, one of the optional courses there was actually called: physics and gender.

originally posted by: malvy
a reply to: AlienBorg


Two years ago I was studying a masters in physics at the Freie Universtiät Berlin, one of the optional courses there was actually called: physics and gender.

??!!

Have they corrupted physics in your country or it was just a course given by another Department on why physics is mainly chosen by male students and much less by female students.

originally posted by: stevieray
a reply to: AlienBorg
Ready for incoming screams of /

Racism
White supremacy
TERF
Homophobe
Sexist
Misogyny
Hate speech
Dog whistle
Microaggressions
Genocide

And the attendant lawsuits for each.

Not because any of this actually happened, but because this venture has the nerve to exist, with non-leftist beliefs.

JP is a hack .
Chris Hedges is much cooler

originally posted by: HeirHeart
a reply to: AlienBorg

I used to be impressed by JP, he's one of the best at arranging and articulating his thoughts. He spoke with passion because they actually were his own thoughts and beliefs. That's why people listened to him, it's tough nowadays to find anyone who's genuinely passionate enough to go against the grain of stupid. Now he's just a mouth piece cashing in on his own brand, and trashing it at the same time. It's like watching a robot, he's not very good at faking passion for a paycheck.

To have been a real fan of such a unique mind, watching it go to waste is painful and truly saddens me. I used to be able to see his inner child at work. I don't see that anymore and my inner child misses him.

JP is a undisciplined hack.
Chris Hedges is way more mint .,