Spike Protein Detox .

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Your immune system will attack and destroy foreign stuff like the spike protein. That's what it does.

And the cell that it is expressed by......does that not also get destroyed?

Yep, that's why a lot of people have aortic dissections after your immune system chews a hole through your aorta while trying to destroy this spike protein producing cells.

How do you get a lot of 'spike protein generating cells' if they are gotten rid of by the immune system, protein and cell, in days?

Where do these new 'spike protein producing cells' come from?

originally posted by: chr0naut
How do you get a lot of 'spike protein generating cells' if they are gotten rid of by the immune system, protein and cell, in days?

Where do these new 'spike protein producing cells' come from?

They live in a different world. It's called mom's basement.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Your immune system will attack and destroy foreign stuff like the spike protein. That's what it does.

And the cell that it is expressed by......does that not also get destroyed?

Yep, that's why a lot of people have aortic dissections after your immune system chews a hole through your aorta while trying to destroy this spike protein producing cells.

How do you get a lot of 'spike protein generating cells' if they are gotten rid of by the immune system, protein and cell, in days?

Where do these new 'spike protein producing cells' come from?

We're way beyond the Pfizer propaganda from 2021.

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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Your immune system will attack and destroy foreign stuff like the spike protein. That's what it does.

And the cell that it is expressed by......does that not also get destroyed?

Yep, that's why a lot of people have aortic dissections after your immune system chews a hole through your aorta while trying to destroy this spike protein producing cells.

How do you get a lot of 'spike protein generating cells' if they are gotten rid of by the immune system, protein and cell, in days?

While it is widely held that spike protein expression, and the ensuing cell and tissue damage will be limited to the injection site, several studies have found the vaccine mRNA and/or the spike protein encoded by it at a considerable distance from the injection site for up to three months after the injection.

Taken from: A Case Report: Multifocal Necrotizing Encephalitis and Myocarditis after BNT162b2 mRNA Vaccination against COVID-19........mdpi.com

a reply to: lordcomac

This guy gets it. The only way to fix this is to undo the damage by an additional treatment tailored specifically to the individual. Which will NEVER happen.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Your immune system will attack and destroy foreign stuff like the spike protein. That's what it does.

And the cell that it is expressed by......does that not also get destroyed?

Yep, that's why a lot of people have aortic dissections after your immune system chews a hole through your aorta while trying to destroy this spike protein producing cells.

How do you get a lot of 'spike protein generating cells' if they are gotten rid of by the immune system, protein and cell, in days?

While it is widely held that spike protein expression, and the ensuing cell and tissue damage will be limited to the injection site, several studies have found the vaccine mRNA and/or the spike protein encoded by it at a considerable distance from the injection site for up to three months after the injection.

Taken from: A Case Report: Multifocal Necrotizing Encephalitis and Myocarditis after BNT162b2 mRNA Vaccination against COVID-19........mdpi.com

This was a single case where a 76 year old man who had previously had Parkinsons disease, died.

Although the paper identifies the Pfizer vaccine in the title, the man first showed cardiac distress after receiving the Astrazaneca (ChAdOx1 nCov-19 vector) vaccine, and so the subsequent two vaccines were the Pfizer ones.

Perhaps trace of the viral vector had remained in this patient, leading to the presence of the spike protein or perhaps the patient did have COVID-19, and the absence of the nucleocapsid under test was a false negative?

a reply to: chr0naut

Perhaps trace of the viral vector had remained in this patient, leading to the presence of the spike protein or perhaps the patient did have COVID-19, and the absence of the nucleocapsid under test was a false negative?

Perhaps?

However......there have been several studies that have found the vaccine mRNA and/or the spike protein encoded by it at a considerable distance from the injection site for up to three months after the injection.....or so it says in that case report....

Do you think they are lying?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: chr0naut

Perhaps trace of the viral vector had remained in this patient, leading to the presence of the spike protein or perhaps the patient did have COVID-19, and the absence of the nucleocapsid under test was a false negative?

Perhaps?

However......there have been several studies that have found the vaccine mRNA and/or the spike protein encoded by it at a considerable distance from the injection site for up to three months after the injection.....or so it says in that case report....

Do you think they are lying?

Fleischmann and Pons said they had evidence of cold fusion, too. I don't think they were lying, but no-one has been able to replicate their results.

Science is full of unvalidated or irrepeatable claims.

Occasionally, people misunderstand scientific results, too. Like for instance the presence of the lipid used to encapsulate the vaccines has definitely been seen to linger in the body. But it is questionable as to how the spike protein, or the source which replicates it, could linger if they are destroyed by the immune system.

And similarly, there is a pandemic of the virus which has affected nearly the entire population, and which definitely replicates the spike protein, such that presence of the spike protein, or of antibody reaction to it, is now used as the primary indicator of the presence of the virus.

a reply to: chr0naut

So you personally believe what you think sounds best to you?

But it is questionable as to how the spike protein, or the source which replicates it, could linger if they are destroyed by the immune system.

How can you be 100% sure it is destroyed by the immune system?


Your original question was:

How do you get a lot of 'spike protein generating cells' if they are gotten rid of by the immune system, protein and cell, in days?

And now you say:

Science is full of unvalidated or irrepeatable claims.

Who told you that the immune system destroys the mRNA and spike proteins manufactured by your cells in days...?

Autopsies have now been performed after a suspected vaccine death.....didn't The Science also tell you that the vaccine stays in your deltoid muscle?
But you are going to stick to all the predictions/claims made by The Science at the start, that would stop people being hesitant to receiving the medicine.

Although there was no history of COVID-19 for this patient, immunohistochemistry for SARS-CoV-2 antigens (spike and nucleocapsid proteins) was performed. Spike protein could be indeed demonstrated in the areas of acute inflammation in the brain (particularly within the capillary endothelium) and the small blood vessels of the heart. Remarkably, however, the nucleocapsid was uniformly absent. During an infection with the virus, both proteins should be expressed and detected together. On the other hand, the gene-based COVID-19 vaccines encode only the spike protein and therefore, the presence of spike protein only (but no nucleocapsid protein) in the heart and brain of the current case can be attributed to vaccination rather than to infection. This agrees with the patient’s history, which includes three vaccine injections, the third one just 3 weeks before his death, but no positive laboratory or clinical diagnosis of the infection.

No worries.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: chr0naut

So you personally believe what you think sounds best to you?

But it is questionable as to how the spike protein, or the source which replicates it, could linger if they are destroyed by the immune system.

How can you be 100% sure it is destroyed by the immune system?

Your original question was:

How do you get a lot of 'spike protein generating cells' if they are gotten rid of by the immune system, protein and cell, in days?

And now you say:

Science is full of unvalidated or irrepeatable claims.

Who told you that the immune system destroys the mRNA and spike proteins manufactured by your cells in days...?

Autopsies have now been performed after a suspected vaccine death.....didn't The Science also tell you that the vaccine stays in your deltoid muscle?
But you are going to stick to all the predictions/claims made by The Science at the start, that would stop people being hesitant to receiving the medicine.

Although there was no history of COVID-19 for this patient, immunohistochemistry for SARS-CoV-2 antigens (spike and nucleocapsid proteins) was performed. Spike protein could be indeed demonstrated in the areas of acute inflammation in the brain (particularly within the capillary endothelium) and the small blood vessels of the heart. Remarkably, however, the nucleocapsid was uniformly absent. During an infection with the virus, both proteins should be expressed and detected together. On the other hand, the gene-based COVID-19 vaccines encode only the spike protein and therefore, the presence of spike protein only (but no nucleocapsid protein) in the heart and brain of the current case can be attributed to vaccination rather than to infection. This agrees with the patient’s history, which includes three vaccine injections, the third one just 3 weeks before his death, but no positive laboratory or clinical diagnosis of the infection.

No worries.

More than 13.5 billion doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered.

And anti-vaccine campaigns online existed before COVID-19 did. They had their studies, papers and edge cases back then, too.

But the truth is that vaccines remain one of the most powerful tools against disease.

a reply to: chr0naut

Are you saying the case report is an anti-vaccine campaign?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: chr0naut

Are you saying the case report is an anti-vaccine campaign?

No, it seems to have been quite rigorous and scientifically valid, for what it was, although its conclusions did not consider what else may have been contributory to the observation.

By inference, the authors pointed the finger specifically at the Pfizer vaccine, which may legitimately have been the cause, or the authors also may have been misidentifying the culprit.

But undoubtedly, the case study has been promoted around the world as if it was not just a single case and was indicative of general results, and specifically by those who wish to ignore the tens of billions of cases where no harm has occurred.

a reply to: chr0naut

More than 13.5 billion doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered. And anti-vaccine campaigns online existed before COVID-19 did. They had their studies, papers and edge cases back then, too. But the truth is that vaccines remain one of the most powerful tools against disease.

Yes this all very interesting .

Except your forgetting one detail . The Covid-19 " Vaccine " is not a Vaccine , it's an experimental Treatment still 100% unapproved via the FDA.

and that's so the FDA can cover there own as$ , which should tell you every thing you need to know about the " Vaccine "

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: chr0naut

More than 13.5 billion doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered. And anti-vaccine campaigns online existed before COVID-19 did. They had their studies, papers and edge cases back then, too. But the truth is that vaccines remain one of the most powerful tools against disease.

Yes this all very interesting .

Except your forgetting one detail . The Covid-19 " Vaccine " is not a Vaccine , it's an experimental Treatment still 100% unapproved via the FDA.

and that's so the FDA can cover there own as$ , which should tell you every thing you need to know about the " Vaccine "

On Aug. 23, 2021, the FDA granted full approval to the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine. Next, on Jan. 31, 2022, the agency granted full approval to the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine.

FDA Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine Approval Signifies Key Achievement for Public Health

Coronaviru s (COVID-19) Update: FDA Takes Key Action by Approving Second COVID-19 Vaccine

The FDA calls it a vaccine. Even anti-vaxxers call it a vaccine. It fits the dictionary definition of a vaccine.

In fact the only true vaccine should be the Smallpox vaccine, so named because it is based upon the Vaccinia virus. All other immune antigen protagonists for other diseases should be more accurately be called immunizations or inoculations.

a reply to: chr0naut

The FDA calls it a vaccine. Even anti-vaxxers call it a vaccine. It fits the dictionary definition of a vaccine.

chr0 don't lie to me and or to yourself .

They literally changed the Definition of Vaccine to fit the narrative and you full well know this.

On Aug. 23, 2021, the FDA granted full approval to the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine. Next, on Jan. 31, 2022, the agency granted full approval to the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine.

Wrong . The only approval these Vaccines ever received was a temporary emergency use .

Now ' A Covid-19 Vaccine has been Fully Approved but it is not the same vaccines that were initially given to MILLIONS of people as you so often like to point out the MILLIONS of people who have been vaccinated " SAFELY" .

The FDA recently announced the expansion of the emergency use authorizations (EUAs) of both Pfizer/BioNTech’s and Moderna‘s bivalent original/Omicron BA.4/5 Covid-19 messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines. The expanded EUAs state that these current bivalent vaccines are now to be used for all primary and booster doses administered to individuals ages six months of age and older. As a result, the EUAs of the original monovalent mRNA vaccines developed by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna for the prevention of Covid-19 have been revoked, meaning they are no longer authorised for use in the US.

Meaning in short , The Original Vaccines were never Approved and were never going to be Approved and what we witnessed during the pandemic was the largest real world human trial of any vaccine in history .

It killed people , untold amounts of people because the true reporting numbers of complications with the Vaccines has been massively suppressed .

What ever this is the FDA has approved is a Rebranded , Renamed and Reworked Vaccine . So technically no chr0naut the Vaccine was never Approved.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: chr0naut

The FDA calls it a vaccine. Even anti-vaxxers call it a vaccine. It fits the dictionary definition of a vaccine.

chr0 don't lie to me and or to yourself .

They literally changed the Definition of Vaccine to fit the narrative and you full well know this.

Dictionaries change their definitions of words all the time. Especially as technology changes.

And, exactly how many dictionaries changed their definition of a vaccine in 2020-2021?

And, would changing a dictionary definition change the functional effect of a medicine? It doesn't matter what it is called if it will do the job.

On Aug. 23, 2021, the FDA granted full approval to the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine. Next, on Jan. 31, 2022, the agency granted full approval to the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine.

Wrong . The only approval these Vaccines ever received was a temporary emergency use .

Now ' A Covid-19 Vaccine has been Fully Approved

Wait, you just before said they weren't given full approval, and now you are saying they are? Which is it?

but it is not the same vaccines that were initially given to MILLIONS of people as you so often like to point out the MILLIONS of people who have been vaccinated " SAFELY" .

The FDA recently announced the expansion of the emergency use authorizations (EUAs) of both Pfizer/BioNTech’s and Moderna‘s bivalent original/Omicron BA.4/5 Covid-19 messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines. The expanded EUAs state that these current bivalent vaccines are now to be used for all primary and booster doses administered to individuals ages six months of age and older. As a result, the EUAs of the original monovalent mRNA vaccines developed by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna for the prevention of Covid-19 have been revoked, meaning they are no longer authorised for use in the US.

Meaning in short , The Original Vaccines were never Approved and were never going to be Approved and what we witnessed during the pandemic was the largest real world human trial of any vaccine in history .

Or, that the old vaccines were now less effective against a mutating pathogen, and they wanted to get everyone using the updated vaccines, and not the older ones. That actually sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

It killed people , untold amounts of people because the true reporting numbers of complications with the Vaccines has been massively suppressed .

Can you point me to who is reporting these unreported deaths?

LOL.

What ever this is the FDA has approved is a Rebranded , Renamed and Reworked Vaccine . So technically no chr0naut the Vaccine was never Approved.

Except that they were fully approved, and right from day one they (severally) were on a path towards full approval even though EUA's, and several updates granting wider use, were given.

And of course, the vaccines were renamed, rebranded and reworked. That happens all the time with pharmaceuticals.

I haven't heard anyone on the web getting all upset about acetaminophen being sold as Tylenol, or a burger being sold as a McSomethingOrOther.

a reply to: chr0naut

they wanted to get everyone using the updated vaccines,

Well yeah , They have to sweep the crap they first pushed under the rugs. and as the original vaccine was never actually approved in the long run it never actually existed as a vaccine did it ?

So now the only thing that will be listed as a Fully Approved Vaccine on the historical record will be What ever it is they have reformulated. and of course you say it's just an ever evolving Vaccine to fit an ever evolving Virus .

The population reached Herd immunity a long time ago meaning the Vaccine is irrelevant and has been for some time if not the whole time .

And of course, the vaccines were renamed, rebranded and reworked. That happens all the time with pharmaceuticals.

it's not the rename part that matters is it mate ? It's the complete chemical rework of the Vaccine after it killed it's human lab rats .

a reply to: Itherael

You think a scare scammeranti-vaxxer actually cares about peoples health.

So far all my dealings with those types of people is their ego, and refusing to acknowledge all the big predictions ( which were in fact well worn scare scam lies by well known con-artists) are their #1 and only concern.

Yes, even if it kills people.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

" It killed people , untold amounts of people because the true reporting numbers of complications with the Vaccines has been massively suppressed . "

Sorry but that is just one big fat lie. ( I am a Mortician, I am literally in the perfect position to know )

And by now everyone with 3 brain cells knows that prediction was part of the scare-scam tool anti-vaxxers used.
I mean you do realize this was a global Pandemic right ( not just your little myopic world ) , so 100s of million of people dropping dead soon after taking a vaccine would have been impossible to hide.

You have thought of that right ?

Or have you blocked it out of fear of realizing you have been had.

Note: Drug companies being evil at times, does not automatically make those who preach against them saints. They can be evil as well and ego, profit etc.... are powerful motivators . I mean the list of outright lies told by anti-vaxxers during the Pandemic far outweigh what they accuse the drug companies of. ( and most of the accusations of "lies" told by the drug companies were in fact just highly uneducated and ignorant adults not understanding basic high school science subjects.

Straight from the playbook and past scams .... ( which made a few influencers millions. This time round, Billions )

Read this if you dare, spot anything familiar ? ( a composition of their last campaign put together by them . And yes, it turned out to be a scam )
www.agreenroadjournal.com...