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originally posted by: ChaoticOrder on Mar, 16 2020
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if more people die from the panic and resulting economic consequences. We just went through some massive fires along the coast of Australia and it happened during the holiday season when coastal businesses make a large fraction of their annual profits from inland tourists and before that we had a long drought. We're seeing some figures that look worse than the '08 global financial crisis. There is absolutely no way we can afford to close businesses or quarantine people for any amount of time.
My point is it's absolutely irresponsible for the media to whip people into a frenzy like this, and I think we can all agree if it weren't for the MSM saturating the airwaves with CV19 news then we would have already forgotten about this virus. It's also a good lesson about just how much power the media has over how people think and behave. I don't doubt that CV19 may be a bit worse than most flu viruses, however there are many other common viruses which spread during the flu season and some are quite a bit worse than CV19.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder on Mar, 29 2020
Sorry but I'm still not scared and I'm not buying into your propaganda. Closing all these businesses and telling young people to stay inside all day is utterly ridiculous. If older people are scared then they can self-isolate, most older people are already retired and in a position to make it through the quarantine, most young people are not.
I've seen so many people lose their jobs already, lives totally ruined and shattered, futures completely uncertain... but all that's totally fine so long as older folks can feel just a bit safer while the world burns and their children and grandchildren are left to rebuild after they're gone. It's selfish and entitled to halt the world economy over something so tame.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder on Mar, 31 2020
What would happen if we halted the world economy every time a new virus pops up even if the symptoms seem less severe than a common flu? Once again the path to hell is paved with good intentions. Older people should self-isolate if they don't want CV19, they can stay at home all day because most are already retired. We shouldn't have to risk a global economic collapse so they feel a bit safer.
It wont be safer when people are fighting in shops over everyday necessities or if full scale riots break out. And mark my words, if this goes on for several more months it will come to that, I can already see many people are reaching the breaking point and we've barely begun. The largest threat to my well-being right now certainly isn't CV19, it's the panicked people and the economic repercussions. So far I've seen vastly more suffering as a result of the fearmongering than I've seen as a result of CV19 infections.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder on Apr, 24 2020
Thankfully we haven't seen many violent protests and I hope that continues, but if people are isolated for too long it will inevitably happen because people are slowly being driven insane. That is why these restrictions will have to start being removed some time soon, there really isn't a choice in the matter, unless we want to risk permanent psychological damage to many people along with sever economic damage. It's fine and dandy to believe in a utopian vision where Covid-19 will be erased from the face of Earth, but it simply wont happen, we need to be realists in this situation and stop letting fear control us.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder on Sep, 13 2020
Initially the plan was the prevent straining health services but it slowly transformed into a neurotic plan to stop any spread at all, which clearly does more damage than it prevents, through economic damage and psychological damage. If the global economy were to totally collapse we'd see massive numbers of deaths, as it is the suicides are already out of hand.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder on Sep, 25 2021
What's whacky is shutting down everything to stop the spread of a virus which kills less people than car crashes in Australia. I can absolutely assure you the economic damage and mental health damage is an order of magnitude larger than any damage prevented by the lockdowns. These people can't even begin to comprehend the amount of pain and suffering they have caused, they sit up in their ivory towers laying down edicts and living by a different set of rules.
many nations are facing record levels of poverty, homelessness, unemployment, energy scarcity, along with rapidly rising prices.
originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: ChaoticOrder
I went all in on USA stocks back in April 2020. I put all of my 401k and my cash cash in same. Actually in USA oil refiners. My thinking was were not going down yet and if we do just WTF. I still have the 6200 shares of oil refining stock and I am up 256%.
I also bought 3 acres of oceanfront land in Nova Scotia for a mere $66,000 USD for a bug out assuming the USA ever collapses.
Moving forward I am investing in EV [Electric Vehicles]. Lithium batteries will no longer blow up when they advance into solid state batteries. Lithium will be replaced also down the road
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originally posted by: baddmove
I just got over a case of Covid for the 4th time BUT!
I live in a college town where all these colds and viruses just bounce around.
My helper at work got it from his wife then I got it.
I was out for a week but i'm 62 so there is that.
It wasn't as bad as the first time but we have to stay home for 5 days if we get it.
Company policy. (I am in eastern Washington)
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
There is so much suffering happening in the world right now, many nations are facing record levels of poverty, homelessness, unemployment, energy scarcity, along with rapidly rising prices. Quite frankly I find it very hard to feel sympathy for anyone because people were warned every step of the way. However, the majority of people chose to embrace the dystopian lockdowns and they attacked anyone who dared to question the narrative. If we could now go back in time to do everything again I'm confident we would handle things very differently. Hope you fearmongers are glad that you've managed to create the worst economic crisis in decades. Well done.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder on Mar, 16 2020
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if more people die from the panic and resulting economic consequences. We just went through some massive fires along the coast of Australia and it happened during the holiday season when coastal businesses make a large fraction of their annual profits from inland tourists and before that we had a long drought. We're seeing some figures that look worse than the '08 global financial crisis. There is absolutely no way we can afford to close businesses or quarantine people for any amount of time.
My point is it's absolutely irresponsible for the media to whip people into a frenzy like this, and I think we can all agree if it weren't for the MSM saturating the airwaves with CV19 news then we would have already forgotten about this virus. It's also a good lesson about just how much power the media has over how people think and behave. I don't doubt that CV19 may be a bit worse than most flu viruses, however there are many other common viruses which spread during the flu season and some are quite a bit worse than CV19.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder on Mar, 29 2020
Sorry but I'm still not scared and I'm not buying into your propaganda. Closing all these businesses and telling young people to stay inside all day is utterly ridiculous. If older people are scared then they can self-isolate, most older people are already retired and in a position to make it through the quarantine, most young people are not.
I've seen so many people lose their jobs already, lives totally ruined and shattered, futures completely uncertain... but all that's totally fine so long as older folks can feel just a bit safer while the world burns and their children and grandchildren are left to rebuild after they're gone. It's selfish and entitled to halt the world economy over something so tame.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder on Mar, 31 2020
What would happen if we halted the world economy every time a new virus pops up even if the symptoms seem less severe than a common flu? Once again the path to hell is paved with good intentions. Older people should self-isolate if they don't want CV19, they can stay at home all day because most are already retired. We shouldn't have to risk a global economic collapse so they feel a bit safer.
It wont be safer when people are fighting in shops over everyday necessities or if full scale riots break out. And mark my words, if this goes on for several more months it will come to that, I can already see many people are reaching the breaking point and we've barely begun. The largest threat to my well-being right now certainly isn't CV19, it's the panicked people and the economic repercussions. So far I've seen vastly more suffering as a result of the fearmongering than I've seen as a result of CV19 infections.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder on Apr, 24 2020
Thankfully we haven't seen many violent protests and I hope that continues, but if people are isolated for too long it will inevitably happen because people are slowly being driven insane. That is why these restrictions will have to start being removed some time soon, there really isn't a choice in the matter, unless we want to risk permanent psychological damage to many people along with sever economic damage. It's fine and dandy to believe in a utopian vision where Covid-19 will be erased from the face of Earth, but it simply wont happen, we need to be realists in this situation and stop letting fear control us.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder on Sep, 13 2020
Initially the plan was the prevent straining health services but it slowly transformed into a neurotic plan to stop any spread at all, which clearly does more damage than it prevents, through economic damage and psychological damage. If the global economy were to totally collapse we'd see massive numbers of deaths, as it is the suicides are already out of hand.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder on Sep, 25 2021
What's whacky is shutting down everything to stop the spread of a virus which kills less people than car crashes in Australia. I can absolutely assure you the economic damage and mental health damage is an order of magnitude larger than any damage prevented by the lockdowns. These people can't even begin to comprehend the amount of pain and suffering they have caused, they sit up in their ivory towers laying down edicts and living by a different set of rules.