Kinda sad- Such a historic day here for ATS

originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: TrueAmerican

Due to the fact that the government CHOSE to keep this information hidden from us all these years, the only thing we can expect from them is lies, disinformation, and misdirection.

Congress can demand all they want. That doesn’t mean they will get the truth.

Here's the thing, now we have fewer options or possibilities

at face value and the testimony of the witnesses and the Burchett and others either...

there are certain factions within the corporate world, the DOD, and probably other Departments that want to keep Congress and the public in the dark

Or

Now TPTB is doing the dog and pony show with Congress pretending to be all gung ho.

or a mixture of both

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: TrueAmerican

THE GOVERNMENT DOES INDEED HAVE CRAFT, BODIES, AND REVERSE ENGINEERING PROGRAMS.

Who admitted this, and when, where, etc.? Link?

Thanks.

That was Grusch's sworn testimony today, now we wait to see if Congress can verify it. No more no less

what did you expect....

I rewatched that movie recently then watched a later remake of it.

How much of a hoax is this now, after the hearing?

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
[removed] The statements I make in this thread are after July 26, 2023 at roughly 11 AM EST. The point at which the world was made officially aware and put on notice.

There is life among the stars

We are not alone, however we are isolated

This is for our safety and theirs

They are not the enemy and we are not theirs

Do not pursue, I repeat do not pursue

End transmission

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
a reply to: Klassified

Did you watch the hearing or not. Yes or no.

Did you link the hearing?

NOTE: THE VIDEO OF THE HEARING IS NOW IN THE OP.

I suppose I just assumed that everyone around this site would know about this, it is such big news. But ok. There it is.

And here, repeated:

originally posted by: TrueAmerican

originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
a reply to: Klassified

Did you watch the hearing or not. Yes or no.

No.

OK. Then please understand that this was not directed at you necessarily. Now, you are seriously under informed at this point, given what just happened, because it is major.

I did not watch the hearing, but I am familiar with the claims of Mr. Grusch. A denier I am not, but I am skeptical of his testimony and the motive of Congress for having this hearing, especially at this time. At this point, all I can do is wait and see what comes of it, but I think I already know where it's going.

a reply to: Klassified

The hearing is posted all over. I can help you no further. Thanks for the responses.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

You are slow...

LIVE: Congress holds UFO hearing

a reply to: nerbot

Well aware of it. Obviously, others may not have been. I wanted to discuss in the off topic forums though because I was here, and wanted to cover this aspect of the hearing- specifically, what we the older members endured here at ATS. I remember. I was often victim of this over and over. So were many others.

It is just one small but extremely pertinent aspect to this history making hearing, and as it specifically relates to the history of this site.

Not sad at all. The truth is sometimes a hard mistress and holding fast to her a difficult journey. We’ve all had our fair share I’d imagine. I know I have over the years and not just here, far less here.

However, as interesting as the hearing was today, it hasn’t really given US anything new. We know all of this and have done for many many years. It’s just another disclosure show. Until people see something definitive, we will still be seen as the UFO freaks and fools. Maybe more will come out, but likely not a lot more than talk. Will we see the much better quality videos? Just one would do. Will we see evidence of the craft? The EBE’s or the NHI’s ? I doubt it.

We are inching forward, which is good, but the pace needs to pick up soon or it will be out of their hands.

originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: TrueAmerican

THE GOVERNMENT DOES INDEED HAVE CRAFT, BODIES, AND REVERSE ENGINEERING PROGRAMS.

Who admitted this, and when, where, etc.? Link?

Thanks.

That was Grusch's sworn testimony today, now we wait to see if Congress can verify it. No more no less

what did you expect....

I rewatched that movie recently then watched a later remake of it.

I love the first one been watching it since I was a kid.

The remake was ok I'm a fan of Reeves and Connelly its not to bad

a reply to: TrueAmerican

Is it possible to get a transcript of the hearing proceedings?


I did watch the hearing, live, on CSPAN, but there were several points that I would like to review, in print, to solidify in my mind before I speculate further.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

Now, forget the detail of the craft how they got here and where they came from and focus on what the situation really means to humanity.

If you think that the efforts expended by the ETs, especially since 1947, were a mere "look and see" joy trip, think again. I've mentioned many times in the last year that there is a cosmic reckoning we must face. But the task was not left entirely to us to remedy. Human DNA has been altered during the thousands and thousands of the "medical exams" done during the abductions. We now are a couple of generations into the fruit of those changes with the Gen Z folks of our own making. Buckle up! Freedom already is an antiquated term anyway as our governments have been progressing right along with their orders.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

I'm still calling bovine feces. I don't buy a word of it. IMO, it has PSYOP written all over it.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
The witnesses can't be attacked. They cannot be denied. Their credentials are impeccable. When this occurs at the highest levels of public scrutiny, under oath, I mean at some point you've just got to give in. Fold your cards, put your tails between your legs, and just go find another game. You won many battles, but you most definitely lost the war. Yer done. So stop denying. Their testimony alone IS good enough at these high levels. What will no doubt follow in the months ahead should really be stunning as this unfolds.

Is this OP satire? Honest question,

I certainly understand some frustration when discussing the historicity of government & UFOs, but...

I'm really not trying to be mean, but the fact that so many here believe public disclosure to be a good thing emphatically punctuates how out of our depth this species as a whole is. Anyone could have figured out the finer points of whether we are alone in the universe, either scientifically or intuitively. There was never anything purposefully stopping you. Not trying to be intentionally vague, but if you know then you know.

It seems a lot of people want efficient energy schemes and other implications of this level of technology. While certainly it was likely preemptive to hide such tech for nearly a century, and with a concerted effort for at least 70 of those years, the situation we are in now cannot accommodate such a radical reversal easily. Imagine solving world hunger through clean almost effortless energy systems tomorrow. That's a good thing right? Noble, maybe, except the population would absolutely explode and we would still be robbing our planet blind of its biological systems and irreversible processes at a rate which is potentially unfathomable compared to today's standards. The impacts of the industrial revolution are here, there's no winding back that clock now. The push button mentality of humanity has been dawning brightly, where thought and measures are easily foregone.

That's also besides the point of how we use everything including rocks to kill each other over petty squabbles. The problem has never been the tools we use, it has always been us. We're a stupid little ape cult with inter-tribalistic whims. Transferring these technologies from the corrupt to the absolutely incompetent at large is like jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. Should the "secret gubment" be reigned in? Surely, but don't act like these aren't human problems. I suspect a resounding majority of those who are gasping for such enlightenment would have acted the same shameful way as others have given the same opportunity. Alternately, if you understood the broader implications of this tech in line with the compassion for each other you might instead debate me over, you would be crawling over broken glass to keep congress and the human race as a whole from being simply handed such things.

The world of the future will have no place for the people we are now. We are running out of time to change for the better before making more, and more greatly egregious, mistakes.

Look at them squirm
When the tables are turned
The meek little shills
Their mockery burned

The truth is before us
Out in the light
The secrets of darkness
Shall suffer oversight

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
It is just one small but extremely pertinent aspect to this history making hearing, and as it specifically relates to the history of this site.

Yes, it is just one, but it is NOT "making history", that will be when there is something worthy of note for the human race to add to it's history books. I think you got overexcited and were dissappointed others weren't waving their hands in the air crying "Eureka". And there are oodles of "specifics" relevant to this site out there which get pushed into the GREY all the time.

I have been watching many of these official hearings for a very long time too, particularly regarding some of the more historic cases of which there have been many, especially in the last year or so. So why do you now consider this one in particular so "historical" or that we here at ATS aren't paying enough attention to it?

It is more vague, less detailed, less informative and does little but add more speculation to a speculative agenda that seems fuelled by blame for the lack of transparency and failure in ability to report rather than the divulging of testimony by real whistleblowers who give full statements regarding individual events and endless eyewitness accounts. The people we see in this testimony are too scared and limited in what they can offer to afford true nuggets to capture real attention.

This hearing was a basic Q&A session to three military people, one in particular waves huge red flags for me. It seems to be for the purpose of almost hijacking the whole scenario to continue to control the GLOBAL agenda of what is, could be, or will be happening out/up there and focuses too much on TIC-TAC craft. Something I believe is being pushed because it is part of a Red Flag for the future to create a Problem-Reaction-Solution scenario.

Triangles are the key, and I think three ships were monitoring the famous TIC-TAC sighting don't forget. "They" have perhaps come a long way from the USS Eldridge and the Philadelphia Experiment...



The Rendlesham Forest, Roswell, and "Minuteman" nuclear missile incident testimonies at the Citizen Hearings provide much more information and on so many levels beyond TPTB as they involve all kinds of people, not just three servicemen and are overseen by people who have been there, done that within their careers to have more influence without risking ridicule within a political scene so much. Perhaps you got excited about some famous faces asking questions, It helps to get the sheeple attention doesn't it?

Day 1 of The Citizen Hearings, other days (15 in total I think) can be found by following the links from this clip. Rivveting stuff....



And has anyone here ever even heard of this other very important UK case?



I'm not just bashing your OP as I would consider you as one of our "troopers", but take a breath and consider the whole ball of wax and all the specks it has picked up as it rolls along as a whole. We are far from hitting a wall yet.

History for me was made many years ago in a beautiful Welsh forest and nothing can take that away.

Disclosure is a personal thing sometimes and doesn't come on a screen.

That was a nice show of the government telling itself something just to be seen doing so. Now what is congress going to do about having a show and tell session with some real evidence? Then I may be fully convinced. I still have a few doubts, mainly because of those involved.

Funny how we are discussing the governments actions and not the repercussions of them being real.

It has been mentioned that they, whoever they are, have been changing humanity for generations. Strange how the post stated only a few generations as it is more likely at least very many thousands of generations.

You know they were called angles in the past. Or devils, depending on the interpretation of the encounter.

When do we go back and interpret the Good News books properly now that we know all that is just a cargo cult?

'Quatermass and the Pit' might very loosely apply.