Researchers Claim They Developed a Room-Temperature Superconductor

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Yup... so far everything I've read is confirming. I wish I had a lab set up so I could have first hand info, buuut...

Anyhoo, a dam has broken and I find it exciting. One less obstacle to "god like" tech execution.

a reply to: Baddogma

Doc Brown needed 1.21 gigawatts transferred to the flux capacitor in 1955.
volts Amps and ohms use the formula V=IR.
I'm sure they don't get the alien divide by zero error.
This latest technology probably has some flux creep curves that limit its value but in the past there were reverse engineering concerns at liquid nitrogen temperatures.
Satyendra Nath Bose was probably the reason India joined the nuclear arms club so early back in 1974.

a reply to: Baddogma

So I say a bunch of crap, like all the time. And some of it speculation about where this tech leads us (mostly as a clue to where it came from, *ahem* black projects *ahem*… this is a CT oriented site so it is expected).

Earlier, I said HTSC are a crystalline structure where electrons pair up (Cooper Pairs). I then said something about frequency and HT/RTSCs.

The whole truth is that electrons are given a quality called “spin” (that is its name, nothing to do with basketball’s spinning): up|down. Which mean Cooper pairs can sync to the same sign spin. But they can also pair up as opposite spins! If it is the same it called a “triplet” (horrible name!).

A SC also repels a magnet current up to a limit them the outer field destroys the SC magnetic field and SC.

I also said other materials are superconductors and mentioned uranium.

So, of course, She is going to mess with me!

Phys.org, Aug 2, 2023 -Waves of charge signal rare physics at work inside a superconductor.

Using a STM to investigate Uranium-Tellarium they were able to map the striated structure as it both neared the critical temperature and then what effects a magnetic field had on it.

”We discovered the existence of a charge density wave in the superconducting state, but this by itself is not necessarily unusual. What is strange is that destroying the superconductivity also makes the charge wave goes away," said Anuva Aishwarya..,

… the charge density waves are spawned by an entirely different wave in the material, one that is made up of Cooper pairs. Neither of these waves ebb and flow like water. Instead, they are static variations in two different properties—one relates to the charge and the other to the interacting electron pairs.

What does that mean??

The Cooper Pairs have a specific frequency for the material.?This seems to be a phase transition indicator created by the Cooper pairs themselves! It has been shown in two different measurements.

Since this is a quantum phenomenon it can be created in a different medium with same properties just like quantum teleportation!

Again, this begs the question…

What’s the Frequency, Kenneth!!???

originally posted by: tanstaafl

"They were able to make a lead and phosphate structure achieve superconductivity at a temperature of 127 degrees Celsius"

Ummm... room temp? Is this room on Venus?

127 degrees max temperature. Which is phenomenal because usually the max temperature is impractically very low. 127 degrees and below includes room temperature then.

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Yup... so far everything I've read is confirming. I wish I had a lab set up so I could have first hand info, buuut...

Anyhoo, a dam has broken and I find it exciting. One less obstacle to "god like" tech execution.

This lab replicated the levitation effect:

arxiv.org...

originally posted by: cooperton
a reply to: tanstaafl
127 degrees and below includes room temperature then.

I didn't see the words 'and below', though they may have been somewhere else.

Also, while 'room temperature' is definitely below 127 degrees celsius, even HALF that can in no way be considered even close to 'room temperature'.

That's not to say this isn't a tremendous breakthrough if its true.

a reply to: Baddogma

Here's a Photo of the New Room Temperature Superconductor ...

originally posted by: tanstaafl

I didn't see the words 'and below', though they may have been somewhere else.

Also, while 'room temperature' is definitely below 127 degrees celsius, even HALF that can in no way be considered even close to 'room temperature'.

That's not to say this isn't a tremendous breakthrough if its true.

Yeah I look and it was my fault, vague wording

It works from -200C to 127C. It looks like the real deal, a game-changer in so many regards

a reply to: cooperton

Toms hardware has been running articles about any computing hardware that could use a quantum effect.
It was disclosed that Josephson junctions would have important applications in quantum-mechanical circuits in 1962.
The really old question is whether we are ready for quantum tunneling computers.

They may be selling room temperature quantum computers in every corner drug store in 2054 but they are just a little hard to find in 2024.

a reply to: cooperton

Game changer, indeed.

We just have to avoid fixed games! (i.m.o.)

Now, couple this with clean, cheap power generation via fusion, cold fusion or ? ... which we allegedly already have.

It would be nifty to live long enough to see what humanity at large could do with this combination ... or even "just" the superconductor.

a reply to: Baddogma

Energy: transmission and storage. The 10% (at least) lost to heat/resistance is criminal when you consider what a coal fired power plant is doing to our swimming pool! Storage is a strange one. Flywheels that hold charge until needed; the gravity cranes where potential energy is shelved until required and converted to kinetic energy without the cost of resistance and heat; and ??? Stuff we haven’t even thought of yet!

Electronics : That cloud storage system sure is handy and so is the internet but it is a shame we have not even attempted to convert the waste heat back to energy.

If they ever build a quantum computer why not use room temperature SC wiring? It works anyway and you have already cooled parts of the system down so why not??

Scientific Instruments: from MRI, to STM, to Raman spectroscopy, to gravity wave detectors, to stuff I can’t even remember right now, all enhancing our research efforts.

Everything Else: freezers, elevators, freeways (they ship cryo hydrogen from spot to spot, you drive on top and have less weight in contact with the surface or even levitate like the trains—all while charging your vehicle, obvious other things that I am leaving out… all would change. Anything to do with heating and cooling..:

The Lie that “It Is Too Expensive” goes away. Especially with electricity too cheap to meter (i.e., hot fusion). But with the ability to constantly auck CO2 from the atmosphere and turn it into dry ice for reuse or, hell, pumping under the thawing mammoth carcasses, there will be no excuse to not do any attempt to clean up this place.

Unless you think money has value and that you and your family are safe on your island as the POd masses dig up the DUMBs from their deep underground military bases.

Then no. Nothing bad happens as transition into a Star Trek civilization.

Except for the concept of money.

Disclaimer: Lockheed has been rumored to have a fusion reactor since the late 89, early 90s. Looking at their patents they are almost as concerned about control and distribution as they are about fusion power itself. Add in their redox flow battery patents and what Space program contracts they have won, you kind of get the idea that something strange is afoot at the Circle K.

(It might even be “circle RK instead of just circle TM)!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

You are an industrious man, TEOTW!

Thank you for starting the list of revolutions.

Being a serf with no agency to speak of, my greatest concern is not displaced economies and humans, but the humans with arguably far too much agency. Will transformation to as close to a sci-fi utopia as we can manage be allowed? Especially as "they" are so close to their cherished totalitarian hellworld?

a reply to: Baddogma

That is a major question!

I think that when we are running free then you can look at the past. All I really know is that we can’t keep doing what we are doing now and survive.

The salvation has to be “belief”. We sidestep the madness of mutually assured destruction, end the childish “the one with the most toys wins” mentality, and that means we must make a leap of faith (when the technology arrives).

The easiest ideas to cling to are the Council of Nine/Roddenberry memes of Star Trek. No money and knowledge for knowledge’s sake.

Compared to a velvet glove in an iron fist (the seemingly current ideology we live under) it is scary. When wirds like “think for yourself, question authority” are actually “think for yourself, you are responsible for the world” then the power changes to “empowerment of the individual” with the hope that the horde doesn’t do exactly what the old regime did.

I hate ultimatums but we are reaching a point where it becomes: let us live the way we want to live or we all die doing the same thing.

I don’t think that there will be some Deus ex machina, be it AI, space brothers, or Gawd itself throwing on a robe and sandals and getting off the white American Standard throne and descending from on high, is going to happen.

We save ourselves, our planet, and our future or we fight to the death on the plains of Armageddon!

Me??! I have a beer to drink with an old friend while snowboarding down a crater on the moon! Then a festive dinner of 3D printed animal protein and synth-wine. And maybe some intergalactic web porn to check out (who knew amoebas were so hot??!!)

-Little Cog in a Big Wheel

a reply to: Baddogma

Here to the mag lev/superconducting highway idea:

Spectrum.IEEE.org - Advancing Grids With Highway Levitation.

The cool (*groan*) thing is having liquid nitrogen on hand to freeze any terminators sent by Skynet!!

The cat is out of the box, innit?

I am guardedly optimistic at this point. The Shenyang and Lawrence Berkeley calculations are very positive developments, and take this well out of the cold-fusion "we can offer no explanation" territory. Not that there's anything wrong with new physics (!), but it sets a much, much higher bar if you have to invoke something in that range. I await more replication data, and with more than just social media videos backing them up. This is by far the most believable shot at room-temperature-and-pressure superconductivity the world has seen so far, and the coming days and weeks are going to be extremely damned interesting.

a reply to: Baddogma

a reply to: Insurrectile

Geez , NOBODY got my JOKE ? ..........Observational Humor above yer Eds Mates ? .Hmm.......

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

I'll admit it "whooshed" right by me... I might need a hand holding walk- thru and I well know how it spoils the whole thing, apologies.

If it's any comfort, I doubt 93% of my own efforts land, either... annnnd I know for a fact that I'm hilarious when I want to be (or so my mom told me).

a reply to: Baddogma

Zanti thinks this is just another sweet ATS thread, that simply looks "too good to be true". The usual answer you'd expect if stuff simply "cannot be true", and who are we to prove them wrong (yet).

Touché! One misfit speaking to the other dead. You're welcome.

a reply to: Baddogma

Have any other researchers been able to repeat the results? Last I heard the answer was no.

a reply to: FamCore

It's all in the thread, if you still need an invitation to read it. Last I heard the answer was yes.