The Conspiracy Fantasy and its Capitalist Basis

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: VictorVonDoom And we also have people conspiring to push the theory that humans are causing climate change on Earth..

No, that's call scientific fact

The conspiracy theory is that for the past 50+ years tens of thousands of climate scientists and meteorologists have been paid a vast fortune by the "government" to perpetuate a hoax in order for said "government" to be able to use it to, er, raise taxes or reduce human population summat .....

Unless the scientific method has changed since I went to school, it goes hypothesis - theory - law.

The idea that humans are causing climate change on a global scale barely qualifies as an hypothesis. It is an assumption that our current climate change is caused by humans simply because the climate appears to be changing and humans are present.

To qualify as a scientific theory it would have to be tested under controlled conditions with consistent results. For instance, take a continent like Australia or Africa, remove all the people, then observe and record any changes in climate for, say, 100 years. Then put the people back, wait another 100 years, and observe and record the results. Do this 10 or 20 times, and if you get consistent results, then maybe you can call it a scientific theory. In scientific circles, however, 10 or 20 experiments wouldn't get you a lot of credibility.

Simply stated, there is no way to know for certain that humans are causing climate change. We can guess that it is, but there are many other possibilities that can't be or haven't been ruled out. It could be just a natural cycle of the Earth. Maybe an oncoming shift in the Earth's magnetic field. It could be a change in the Sun's energy output. It could be that the Solar System has moved into an area of space that has a higher particle density. It could be a phenomenon that we are totally unaware of.

But in my opinion, the biggest red flag against the "humans are causing global climate change" hypothesis is the proposed solution. Poor people need to sacrifice, while the rich people get richer.

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

But in my opinion, the biggest red flag against the "humans are causing global climate change" hypothesis is the proposed solution. Poor people need to sacrifice, while the rich people get richer.

Yes, hence this article.

Are we supposed to be surprised, that the relations of capitalist exploitation essentially intoxicated every single human relation? You don't have a solid basis to question the science with that? What you have, is a solid basis to question the politics which prevented the application of science in favor of capital for decades, and still do (to a certain degree).

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

Don't forget the conspiracies pushed by conservatives.

Like the one about Joe Biden having dementia.
There was the other one about Barack Obama not being a US citizen
Oh, and don't forget the one about Michelle Obama being a man!
And the one about the current Democrat party being socialist!

All of this BS on both sides of the political paradigm is being pushed by corporate money via the media. As long as people are dumb enough to keep getting pulled in by it, we won't ever see change, we just carry on watching and getting screwed over by the rich elite.

a reply to: jamespond

And the one about the current Democrat party being socialist!

My personal favorite, sits right next to the Antifa Terrorists.