FBI Reopens Investigation Into Possible 5th Plane - United 23

Blame MAGA, everyone is doing it! 🇺🇲

They can investigate all they want.

If thousands of well respected scientists and engineers have thoroughly "debunked" many details in the official 9/11 report then you can take the results of whatever is going on now with a grain of salt.

originally posted by: Bordon81
a reply to: stevieray

Trump promised to come clean with the truth about the 1960's Twin towers demolition plan.
His family knew many of the classified details since they were insider developers in NYC.
Problem is its still classified so if you are looking for disclosure you have to carefully read between the lines and let the retards chose their own sick fantasies from the menu.

I’m for Trump 100%, but I am also at a loss as to his failure on this, on JFK / RFK / MLK, on UFOs, on Tesla, and so on.
The few things that he could have done hard and fast against the swamp.
But I don’t doubt he got the call, the one that says “these are things we kill whole families for”.

Trump can afford the best special ops / secret agent alumni out there. But the swamp can just keep sending the sickest SOBs in the world, forever.

Trump promised to come clean with the truth about the 1960's Twin towers demolition plan.
His family knew many of the classified details since they were insider developers in NYC.
Problem is its still classified so if you are looking for disclosure you have to carefully read between the lines and let the retards chose their own sick fantasies from the menu.

a reply to: Bordon81

What demolition plan is that?

You know you cant imploded buildings in New York because there is no room Just witness the destruction on the surrounding area from collapse of World Trade Towers

Building in New York as dismantled floor by floor from the top down using cranes

a reply to: firerescue

That is what I suggested back in 64 but this was a steel structure that could be damaged by a freak hurricane or aviation accident in such a way that you couldn't obviously. The twist and drop scenario was supposed to be only done for a real emergency.

They didn't opt for an inertial damping system because the forecast vacancy rates for the towers put them underwater in 30 years.

FBI probably could check that if they have the resources.

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

Then everyone should cry foul because 911 was a kingdom of saud op.

a reply to: Jonah1970

The FBI firmly implanted the Libyan Arab suspicion with their Flight 103 investigation in 1988.

Lamin Khalifah Fhimah was station manager for Libyan Arab Airlines at Luqa Airport, Malta.

en.wikipedia.org...

In the 1960's they were attempting to indoctrinate children into the Middle East Muslim hate meme.
Nuclear power and middle eastern oil profits were at stake.

So my theory is the FBI planted these WTC stories recently in the 2022-2023 media as a form of disclosure.

The pilot of United flight 23 Ballinger believed the 4 Arabs on his plane panicked over another possible Lockerbie style Arab witch hunt rather than guilt.

United airlines notified their pilots that the demolition event was being caused by commercial jet collisions with the towers rather than smoke from a massive thermite demolition operation.

You had the choice of believing either scenario and some of the children rejected the terrorist cover story back in the 60s. They needed a reason to design the towers so they could be dropped with thermite charges because it would have been too expensive to take them down slowly after the vacancy rates put them financially underwater in 30 years.

Mods should keep this thread on topic and not let it foment hate.

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

We really are the best at false flags. No one does false flags better than us.

a reply to: Bordon81

Plenty of real conspiratorial stuff went on around/during 9/11. The buildings were not brought down with explosives. A basic grasp of physics, and general understanding of the towers designs are key to understanding their collapse. If you don’t have those two things, you shouldn’t enter into discussions on the subject.


It is known that structural steel begins to soften around 425°C and loses about half of its strength at 650°C. This is why steel is stress relieved in this temperature range. However, a 50% loss of strength is still insufficient, by itself, to explain the WTC collapse. The WTC, on this low-wind day, was likely not stressed more than a third of the design allowable, which is roughly one-fifth of the yield strength of the steel. Even with its strength halved, the steel could still support two to three times the stresses imposed by a 650°C fire.

The additional problem was distortion of the steel in the fire. The temperature of the fire was not uniform everywhere, and the temperature on the outside of the box columns was clearly lower than on the side facing the fire. The temperature along the 18 m long joists was certainly not uniform. Given the thermal expansion of steel, a 150°C temperature difference from one location to another will produce yield-level residual stresses. This produced distortions in the slender structural steel, which resulted in buckling failures. Thus, the failure of the steel was due to two factors: loss of strength due to the temperature of the fire, and loss of structural integrity due to distortion of the steel from the non-uniform temperatures in the fire.

As the joists on one or two of the most heavily burned floors gave way and the outer box columns began to bow outward, the floors above them also fell. The floor below (with its 1,300 ton design capacity) could not support the roughly 45,000 tons of ten floors (or more) above crashing down on these angle clips. This started the domino effect that caused the buildings to collapse within ten seconds, hitting bottom with an estimated speed of 200 km per hour. If it had been free fall, with no restraint, the collapse would have only taken eight seconds and would have impacted at 300 km/h.

It has been suggested that it was fortunate that the WTC did not tip over onto other buildings surrounding the area. There are several points that should be made.

First, the building is not solid; it is 95 percent air and, hence, can implode onto itself.

Second, there is no lateral load, even the impact of a speeding aircraft, which is sufficient to move the center of gravity one hundred feet to the side such that it is not within the base footprint of the structure.

Third, given the near free-fall collapse, there was insufficient time for portions to attain significant lateral velocity. To summarize all of these points, a 500,000 ton structure has too much inertia to fall in any direction other than nearly straight down.

It’s simple math. Any “architects and engineers” that throw their hats into the rings of the controlled demolition theory should probably have their credentials checked by someone of authority before they build anything.

a reply to: firerescue

Documentary from TMZ broadcast on FOX interviewing passengers and crew on the aircraft that day

www.fox.com...

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: TheLieWeLive

Just one problem - WTC 7 didnt collapse in its footprint It slumped to the North, crossed Barclay Street, a 4 lane road and struck 30 West Broadway (Fiterman Hall) of Manhattan Community College and damaged it so severely that had to be demolished

Also Debris from WTC 7 smashed into 140 West Street, Verizon Building, and damaged it enough that cost 1 bill to repair

So much for own footprint

So not every building demolition goes perfectly? Yeah, that is well known.