Why Trump can't be president

When you hear the MSM mouthpieces ramble on and on about how much of a "threat to democracy" Trump is, it makes you think. We saw 4 years of Trump, and while his actions caused many people to be angry, He kept the US out of new wars, and kept our enemies from attacking us. We also had a great economy going. But the real "threat to democracy" is the proof of the fraud in the 2020 elections.

I think Trump would dig as deep as he could looking for the proof that he was dicked out of the Presidency. can you imagine if that too was vindicated? The entire world has repeated the mantra often and frequently that to question the results of the 2020 election is lunacy. It was the most secure in the history of man. To make that many people who have gone on record look like total fools would be too much for many to accept.

By the time the 2024 elections come around, Trump will have been arrested 5 times at least, and be involved in multiple trials, all with no victims. On the outside, it looks like by arresting him, they hope he will be overwhelmed and drop out of the race. But a deeper look shows that by making him a martyr, he will have a real good chance of getting the nomination for the GOP. So it's unclear at this point if getting him to be the challenger is the goal, or if trying to remove him is. But the one thing they cannot do, is let him win. Too many lies have been told and there is too much to protect.

But the left has pushed this agenda against Trump, in my opinion.
They are doing everything possible to get him out of the way of the 2024 elections, which can only mean their fear of his popularity is overwhelming.

a reply to: network dude

You have not gone deep enough, Trump will not be President because he has made the voting majority, along with the entrenched establishment absolutely despise him.

The claims/lies/truths made against Trump are a function of his actions and the individual opinions formed from said actions.

a reply to: network dude

The Left does fear Trump’s popularity.

That’s what happens when their entire platform is “We ain’t Trump” and they have total sh!t policies on everything across the board.
Policies that are hell bent on destroying the country.

a reply to: network dude

First US should have more options for POTUS what they have. Two party system does not serve US citizens it is only making those who are rich getting more rich. The whole system is corrupted to the core.
Second Trump is no good for POTUS either are Biden... why ? Both are corrupted, first even burns classified documents in his fireplace the second is a most likely a demented puppet.
Trump is also friends with Putin and Putin´s puppet , so allowing Trump to win might lead a deal with Putin. Who will suffer from this ? People of Ukraine and indigenous people of Russia, next you ask why.. more likely US will no longer send any to Ukraine. Indigenous people of Russia has suffered a lot of Putin´s actions and will continue to be in harms way in a frontline of war in Ukraine. Putin do not care.
Scenario what will happen is this if Trump will be a Potus.
ATM Putin has ended Ukrainian grain deal... it means Ukraine cannot send grain across to countries that needs it most to Africa and Middle East and this will lead to huge famine in those countries and mass migration to Europe which will be out of hand. So Trump " The Messiah complexed savior" will make a another deal with Russia so that grain deal goes on and Ukraine will be beaten up direcly and non directly by the other and also EU been put on their knees. Isn´t it interesting that grain deal can be used as a weapon and a opportunity to some.
People of USA ( this is only what i have read here for several years and found it out many times.. a observation ) do not care what happens outside of their country as long as they own income, weath and future is secured.. but is it with Trump ?

a reply to: network dude

But a deeper look shows that by making him a martyr, he will have a real good chance of getting the nomination for the GOP. So it's unclear at this point if getting him to be the challenger is the goal, or if trying to remove him is. But the one thing they cannot do, is let him win. Too many lies have been told and there is too much to protect.

All of this is absolutely helping him. For the types of crimes they’re charging him with, I’d be really surprised if they can finalize any of the court proceedings by the election. Those kinds of trials take time, and even some of the ones starting ahead of time will only have some of the findings come out, but unlikely to reach a verdict.

Not only are they getting the opposite results they going after him, they’re ignoring the best way, presenting a better option.

Inside the GOP, there is almost no competition right now. DeSantis could have been incredibly viable, but he leaned into the culture wars so much that’s the only bit of the policy anyone seems to hear about.

As for the left, Biden is an enigma in that he doesn’t really have supporters. I don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve never actually met someone who is passionate about Biden, even from staunch democrats. He merely ran on “not trump”, but that’s not something you’d want to bank on for a second time.

The more alarming thing to me than the most likely politicized DOJ is the fact we can’t produce good candidates anymore (a long growing trend). The easiest way to keep someone out is to have better options. And in my lifetime I have seen candidates pick up steam who seem to run on compelling platforms. I couldn’t even tell you what most of the platforms are, because candidates rarely talk about policy, and why should they when their admin always does the exact opposite. They must know we know and decide to cut the BS. So now it’s just “I’m not that guy”.

a reply to: network dude

But the one thing they cannot do, is let him win. Too many lies have been told and there is too much to protect.

Exactly. If Trump were to get another term, a lot of heads would roll on both sides of the aisle and they know it.

a reply to: Itherael

Correction: the constant daily drumbeat of HATE for the man from the leftist media has made a large loud and vocal cult despise him.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

a reply to: dollukka

We have no official two party system. THere are many other political parties in the US. I have voted 3rd party often.

We have two dominant parties in the US.

a reply to: dollukka

Sounds like Europe has a major problem. So the US should be paying more than EU is to stop Russia?

Sounds like Trumps deal with Putin would be better for the EU, so why not support Trump?

In the meantime, Uncle Sugar over here is broke and printing money. We cant take care of the world anymore. Y'all are going to have to help yourselves a little more in this one.

originally posted by: Itherael
a reply to: network dude

You have not gone deep enough, Trump will not be President because he has made the voting majority, along with the entrenched establishment absolutely despise him.

The claims/lies/truths made against Trump are a function of his actions and the individual opinions formed from said actions.

there is no doubt a large following of people have been trained to hate him, and few really know why. Something about grabbing them by the bonus hole or something. But There is also a fairly large crowd that still supports him. And I'd wager a few like me. (I can tolerate Trump since I have a good idea of what he can and will accomplish) But would enjoy some new and exciting faces to emerge.

If Biden really is the left's choice, I'd wager it will take some strange things to happen to the voting procedures to allow him a second win. (to those who pay attention, he's not done a very good job and he's likely owned by China and others)

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: network dude

But a deeper look shows that by making him a martyr, he will have a real good chance of getting the nomination for the GOP. So it's unclear at this point if getting him to be the challenger is the goal, or if trying to remove him is. But the one thing they cannot do, is let him win. Too many lies have been told and there is too much to protect.

All of this is absolutely helping him. For the types of crimes they’re charging him with, I’d be really surprised if they can finalize any of the court proceedings by the election. Those kinds of trials take time, and even some of the ones starting ahead of time will only have some of the findings come out, but unlikely to reach a verdict.

Not only are they getting the opposite results they going after him, they’re ignoring the best way, presenting a better option.

Inside the GOP, there is almost no competition right now. DeSantis could have been incredibly viable, but he leaned into the culture wars so much that’s the only bit of the policy anyone seems to hear about.

As for the left, Biden is an enigma in that he doesn’t really have supporters. I don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve never actually met someone who is passionate about Biden, even from staunch democrats. He merely ran on “not trump”, but that’s not something you’d want to bank on for a second time.

The more alarming thing to me than the most likely politicized DOJ is the fact we can’t produce good candidates anymore (a long growing trend). The easiest way to keep someone out is to have better options. And in my lifetime I have seen candidates pick up steam who seem to run on compelling platforms. I couldn’t even tell you what most of the platforms are, because candidates rarely talk about policy, and why should they when their admin always does the exact opposite. They must know we know and decide to cut the BS. So now it’s just “I’m not that guy”.

I am actually a little concerned that the left is going to go through with the Biden as a choice thing. Unless they have some magic trick up their sleeve, it looks like they are trying like hell to get Trump back in the white house. The indictments are proving to look a lot more like political hit jobs, and less like crimes that need to be prosecuted, though it's clear in the documents case, he did exactly what's alleged, I think the question is, did he have the legal authority to do it.

But unless something drastic happens, it looks a lot like 2020 redux. And without covid and mail in ballots, I don't see 81 million votes happening again.

a reply to: network dude

www.politico.com...
Check that article. Trump can't win because of the numbers of Leftist voters is growing exponentially.

a reply to: TonyS

And Hillary can't lose... trust us.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Well it seems that US citizens do not really understand the situation, EU is paying, has been paying and will be paying... Did i say anything about US paying ? No just mentioned how you see the world
You are a fine example to what i said in the end of my post... all you see is your own bellybutton. . . not the big picture.

Do you understand that Trump is friends with Putin.. and for Putin it is all about genocide of ingenous people and Ukrainians and your pal Trump doesn´t care as long as his own wallett gets thicker. This is the World we are living... today

Certainly war in Ukraine has increased cost of living here as it may have been increased in there... in here living costs has been increased very much more than in US .. hugely more. Do i regret this ? a bit but not so much, i rather stand with Ukraine than Crazy Putin with his Crazy pal Trump. This bromance is made in Hell.

a reply to: network dude

It's the Russian Hooker Pee all over again.

Regardless of the facts, if the left can throw as much dirt and mud on Trump then the focus of the election won't be on inflation, open borders, higher taxes, Afghanistan.

As much as I'd vote for Trump, he won't make it to 2024.

The left will end him.

a reply to: network dude

The left has competitively avoided introspection for some time. For the party that claims to be fresh, progressive, and challenging status quos, they are really putting all their chips with a guy who embodies the antithesis of that.

It’s a weird dichotomy they have. Either establishment yes men, or young reps who aren’t based in reality. The in betweens like Gabbard get accused of being nefarious or foreign assets.

What both parties fail to realize is you don’t win elections by appealing to your base, that’s a given. You win by capturing the third party and independent votes. Kind of hard to do without self awareness or at least the appearance of an attempt to recognize you have to represent everyone.

The right isn’t doing much better in terms of offering, but I’d argue they’re a bit more self aware in what they’re doing. Trump is a group thumbing their nose to the system. The debate of its efficacy or national benefit aside, there’s at least awareness in what it is.

My biggest concern with all of this though is that people are actually going to be more skeptical and hesitant to gamble with the “anti establishment” politicians though. The theater has been taxing to many, and you see people capitulate into boring candidates now, or “sure things”. There’s no appetite for competitiveness in the primaries, people have made up their minds ahead of time.

I don’t see this ending well for the American population…..with the extreme outside chance that a large section of states might combine and secede from the Union. Doubtful, however with the path the liberals are on, I don’t see any other out for Red states.

A large section of California wants to be removed and create another state.

The younger generation has zero backbone for what has to be done. They are indoctrinated and ignorant of anything other than their own life. They believe what they are told by social media.

This is going to get much worse before it gets better.

It can’t continue as is.

a reply to: dollukka

EU is paying, just not as much as the US and that is my objection. THat's the big picture.
I guess you want to call that cold hearted and uncaring, well thats on you.

www.bloomberg.com...

www.usnews.com...

Ukraine has been part of Russia for centuries. Russians are indigenous in Ukraine. So I see it as a family affair, an extended European affair, and little business of US. Certainly not for us to be financing it.

I see the Europeans, such as yourself, as being ungrateful.