Bring fairness back into sports

a reply to: DBCowboy

but I have all these damn peanuts. WTF do I do now?

originally posted by: FactorFake2023
a reply to: network dude

Why the F**k do you care, I mean really? How does this affect you in anyway, I mean C'mon you anti trans people are so hardcore against gay and trans people but you never mention how it has effected you personally. Are you involved in a sports program where this is a big issue? Are you an athlete in anyway, shape of form?


This is a serious question for all you anti trans and gay people, how does this affect you personally?

I am not anti-trans or anti-gay, if that’s how they want to live their lives, God bless them.

So just because I am not an athlete at this moment in time, that means I shouldn’t care about how this affects real, biological women?

I played every sport throughout school…football, baseball, track, wrestling, lacrosse, golf…you name it, I played it.
Biological men have no business competing in biological women’s sports. Period.

originally posted by: RazorV66

Biological men have no business competing in biological women’s sports. Period.

it's a shame such a simple truth is sofaking hard for some to grasp.

a reply to: network dude

If a biological man can compete in women's sports, then why can't athletes use performance-enhancing drugs?

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: FactorFake2023
a reply to: network dude

Why the F**k do you care, I mean really? How does this affect you in anyway, I mean C'mon you anti trans people are so hardcore against gay and trans people but you never mention how it has effected you personally. Are you involved in a sports program where this is a big issue? Are you an athlete in anyway, shape of form?


This is a serious question for all you anti trans and gay people, how does this affect you personally?

why the # would you allow a man to compete against a woman in a woman's only sport? Are you some sick twisted #?

Someone has to stick up for the women who are being hurt by this. A girl at the top of her sport, she has been training all her life, wants a scholarship based on her sporting ability. But some dude in a dress happens by and beats her continuously and takes her scholarship. Is that fair, or just "equitable" in the eyes of the deranged?

That's a serious question to you.



eta:
and I really need to you to show me how pointing out reality is being against gay and trans. And who even said anything about Gay folk besides you? gay people aren't trying to muscle women out of opportunities. They just want to love who they love and be left alone. Or has that changed?

I want to know how many of these trans people are trying to muscle in on women's sports that it has become a major issue in their sports, There must be a lot if you are spending this much time on "protecting" the women. Name ALL the scholarships that have been taken? Must be a lot that it has become a real issue?

I have to tell you, I know of only a few instances that this has come up and the women that is has effected have already spoken up about it, so what makes you think they need your help? They have done a pretty good job of defending themselves with or without your "help"

Since you care so much about the women sports, will you also be defending them against Sexism In Sport. How about these?

Obstacles Faced by Women in Sports

The Sexualization Of Women In Sports Extends Even To What They Wear

Despite more female competitors, sexism remains prominent in women's sports

How many threads have you started about these, since you want to "protect" the women.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: network dude

If a biological man can compete in women's sports, then why can't athletes use performance-enhancing drugs?

I'm picturing a roided up dude in a dress with massive biceps and a 23 inch neck squaring off in the ring against a female with the same body structure made by the same performance enhancing drugs. It may be a whole new sporting event we could market. Call it the "juiced" category. I like the way you think.

a reply to: FactorFake2023

first off, welcome to ATS. Second, if you want to control what others post, MAKE YOUR OWN #ING SITE.
You are welcome to voice your opinion, and if your opinion is you are too weak to make an argument, it will show in your posts. Much like the ones here. If you man up a bit, put on those big boy panties, and make good arguments for what you believe in, you may gain some respect. But I assure you, this approach makes you look like a weak little bitch.

a reply to: FactorFake2023

Why the F**k do you care, I mean really? How does this affect you in anyway, I mean C'mon you anti trans people are so hardcore against gay and trans people but you never mention how it has effected you personally. Are you involved in a sports program where this is a big issue? Are you an athlete in anyway, shape of form?

Child trafficking and slave labor doesn't affect me personally either, does that mean I shouldn't care about either?

Do you not have any women in your family that have ever played sports? Or are you still trying to decide if they're really females?

You may not give a damn if your daughter or granddaughter has to compete against or share a locker room with a dude pretending to be a girl, but I do. I'm guessing you probably don't care if they are trafficked for sex either, because it has never happened to YOU. Let's hope it never does, so you can continue to be comfortable and smug in your ignorance and arrogance.

originally posted by: FactorFake2023

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: FactorFake2023
a reply to: network dude

Why the F**k do you care, I mean really? How does this affect you in anyway, I mean C'mon you anti trans people are so hardcore against gay and trans people but you never mention how it has effected you personally. Are you involved in a sports program where this is a big issue? Are you an athlete in anyway, shape of form?


This is a serious question for all you anti trans and gay people, how does this affect you personally?

why the # would you allow a man to compete against a woman in a woman's only sport? Are you some sick twisted #?

Someone has to stick up for the women who are being hurt by this. A girl at the top of her sport, she has been training all her life, wants a scholarship based on her sporting ability. But some dude in a dress happens by and beats her continuously and takes her scholarship. Is that fair, or just "equitable" in the eyes of the deranged?

That's a serious question to you.



eta:
and I really need to you to show me how pointing out reality is being against gay and trans. And who even said anything about Gay folk besides you? gay people aren't trying to muscle women out of opportunities. They just want to love who they love and be left alone. Or has that changed?

I want to know how many of these trans people are trying to muscle in on women's sports that it has become a major issue in their sports, There must be a lot if you are spending this much time on "protecting" the women. Name ALL the scholarships that have been taken? Must be a lot that it has become a real issue?

I have to tell you, I know of only a few instances that this has come up and the women that is has effected have already spoken up about it, so what makes you think they need your help? They have done a pretty good job of defending themselves with or without your "help"

Since you care so much about the women sports, will you also be defending them against Sexism In Sport. How about these?

Obstacles Faced by Women in Sports

The Sexualization Of Women In Sports Extends Even To What They Wear

Despite more female competitors, sexism remains prominent in women's sports

How many threads have you started about these, since you want to "protect" the women.

Are you defending women on those other topics?

Because you are not defending them for this one.

a reply to: network dude

I wll look at it next week. I am NOT pulling your chain

I'm entirely disappointed. I thought this was going to be about sports that matter; you know, professional sports. I was fully ready to discuss the demise of professional sports in the salary cap era. Oh well, carry on worrying yourselves with something that doesn't matter to anyone financially; a place where only the "feels" matter. Amateurs discussing amatures; how appropriate.

a reply to: network dude

Break sports up into two categories. You can compete in the "Woman's" side if you are a biological woman. If you were never a biological woman, you compete in the "other" category. So basically, rather than have a "Men's" category, it is changed to "other" so it's totally inclusive. And there would be no need to have a third class, (which could hurt feelz)

No more " mixed doubles " in tennis then ?

a reply to: network dude

We have men's sports and we have women's sports. Things are pretty clear and don't need much explanation. Now we have a bunch of men, for lack of a better word, that just decide one day that they "are" women and want to compete in women's sports. Its not that they want to dress like women, or act like women. No, this is full blown psychosis, they think they suddenly became real women the moment they decided that is what they wanted to be. It was that easy.

There was a barrier between men's sport's and women's sports. Real women decided that they should have the opportunity to compete against men, in men's sports, if that is what they wanted to do. Real women fought very hard for the right to compete against men in men's sports. And they won that right. And, although many believed that these women were putting themselves in harms way, they all pretty much agreed that if that is what they wanted to do they should be allowed to do it.

Real women were not intimidated by the thought of competing against men in men's sports and feminists rejoiced. So my question is, if the 'real' real women can compete against men in men's sports, why cant the 'fake' real women do the same thing? It seems to me that the 'real' real women are more woman (and more man) than the 'fake' real women could ever hope to be.

We don't need a new category. We already have a way for women and men to compete directly with each other. We didn't re-label or cross-identify anything or anyone. We kept it real and it worked just fine. Nothing needs to change now except the idea that men can become 'real' women just by changing clothes.

On that note, if a dude is standing in front of me wearing a sports jacket and trousers it is wrong for me to refer to him as a man because that would mean I was assuming his gender, and that is wrong and I shouldn't do it. But, if that dude walks out of the room and comes back a few minutes later in makeup and a dress now I have to refer to him as a woman or I am transphobic. It is wrong for me to assume his real gender but I am required and expected to recognize and acknowledge his fake one...

originally posted by: WeDemBoyz
I'm entirely disappointed. I thought this was going to be about sports that matter; you know, professional sports. I was fully ready to discuss the demise of professional sports in the salary cap era. Oh well, carry on worrying yourselves with something that doesn't matter to anyone financially; a place where only the "feels" matter. Amateurs discussing amatures; how appropriate.

We can't all be Dion Sanders. But you call some of your NFL butties and have a nice chat. I bet they still love you.

originally posted by: FactorFake2023

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: FactorFake2023

first off, welcome to ATS. Second, if you want to control what others post, MAKE YOUR OWN #ING SITE.
You are welcome to voice your opinion, and if your opinion is you are too weak to make an argument, it will show in your posts. Much like the ones here. If you man up a bit, put on those big boy panties, and make good arguments for what you believe in, you may gain some respect. But I assure you, this approach makes you look like a weak little bitch.

Yeah thought so, nothing to do with women and their sports, it is an anti trans thread. I do not need respect from the likes of you and speaking of little b**ch, looks like I triggered you. LMAO

O well have a nice "I need to protect the women" thread but in reality it is an anti trans thread. Be honest next time.

Let's give you a shot. What should be done if anything about biological men competing in women's sports? Do you think it's fair to the women?

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: network dude

Break sports up into two categories. You can compete in the "Woman's" side if you are a biological woman. If you were never a biological woman, you compete in the "other" category. So basically, rather than have a "Men's" category, it is changed to "other" so it's totally inclusive. And there would be no need to have a third class, (which could hurt feelz)

No more " mixed doubles " in tennis then ?

I suppose that's up to the competition. If it's a dude and his best bud who put on a dress, against a dude and a chick, the chick and the dude with her may have something to say. Should they be allowed to voice their disapproval, or should they just suck it up, buttercup?