China going stupid

a reply to: nickyw

Now the cops are arresting people that owe money, I think we can see where this is going.

a reply to: nickyw

I new this would happen it's just a matter of when. I remember so much tech industry back in the day. I could land a job in a day. Computers, chip fabrication, cell phones, lasers bar code readers, custom logic boards, custom wiring harnesses I done it all. All of it gone now. I get a little nostalgic and go out there and look at the empty buildings that was once a multi billion dollar semiconductor fab that I worked at. Now empty and never used again. I ask myself wth happen??

It definitely calls for some serious adjustment in spending and lifestyles. And strangely enough, China was recently calling for an increase in birth rates. And them with all those empty cities.

Did China not see the repercussions of Covid19 on their own population and economics? Something tells me they weren't prepared regardless.

I don't care what country one is from, it's sad to see human suffering. Especially so when there are two classes of people, those in charge who are exempt from the instability and the lack of basic necessities and those who are not. It's a recurring problem throughout history and you would think that humans would have figured it out by now.

Things will get worse before they get better and many will suffer. It seems that some civil uprising may be in order as well.


And yes, I'm gonna say it. Learn how to grow sprouts (super easy) and get yourself some chickens, stock up on cheap organic alfalfa and broccoli seeds for sprouting, spaghetti pasta (super cheap) beans and rice, salt and pepper and SPAM! Get a cheap used bicycle and tire pump and tire patch aka duct tape, cards and family type games, pens/pencils and notebook paper, jump ropes and balls for recreation. Learn to live a simpler lifestyle and teach your children. You'll be fine. And keep it as a standard. It's great to splurge when times are good but we never know when the SHTF scenario will come due to environmental or other factors. Have a backup plan, good friends and good family.

I realize I'm mostly preaching to the choir but everyone should be encouraging their family members and friends to do the same. I do. But not often or I wouldn't have my one friend left lol. Some of my very limited family are on the same page. The younger ones not so much. Unfortunately unless someone has actually lived through downright hard and horrid times, it's hard to imagine that life could actually be a struggle to survive.

I personally believe we are very close to a worldwide shift. Not doom porn but some very hard times.

The forcing of:

energy source changes for heating/cooling and cooking
no easy access to cheap automobiles and fuel for transportation
lockdown that caused thousands to lose business' and more thousands to lose jobs, homes etc.

Try to get out of the large metropolitan areas.

That story in the video of a man who earned $800,000 a yr I believe, and suddenly laid off with no job offers, a lot of people are in his shoes. And I'm sure none of those sleeping on sidewalks in China, the USA or other places that were once in comfortable beds with all that they needed never once thought their life would change and they'd be sleeping under cardboard sheets and consuming only bread and water worrying if they would survive the night.

Get healthy, get smart, and be prepared. Always be prepared. If you're prepared, you can actually relax and enjoy life, even when things seem to be getting a little hairy. There is great comfort in knowing you will be ok because you are in charge of you and your success.

They have to set up all the avenues to be able to swoop in and grab potential troublemakers before the troubles start.

all that gold isnt going to help much since they have little in the way of actual infrastructure for their economy, and they also have a massive debt problem that the belt and road initiative is making much worse.

I fully expect a distraction war from them as an excuse to "draft" a very select group of vocal dissenters that "horrifically" get gunned down early in the war.

a reply to: StoutBroux

A mobile base, whether it be a small yacht dingy or campervan, would be handy, at present nothing is selling and can be obtained for a song and a promise. Just get some knowledge, like eating escargot (snails) is an excellent food source it just means thinking outside the box.

a reply to: anonentity
Jailing someone for debt is about as counterproductive as you can get. That is communism for ya. They haven't made the connection yet.

a reply to: sean

An observer would think that China is bankrupt but is in denial, and is delaying the eventuality of admitting it. This means that Blackrock and Advantage will not be getting any money back. Another little morsel is that the cremation data has gone parabolic i can't think what caused that.

a reply to: anonentity
I don't disagree anon, but I'll just be honest at this point: I would literally rather fight and die before I live anyway I can because that's what they've decided. If TSHTF it's because that's their plan. So sick of it. There's more than enough human invented money to go around for everyone; to chalk anything up to incompetence or mismanagement is what they want us to do.

China was always stupid, all commies are.

Communists are always about micromanaging everyone.
That's how communism's system works, only they are "intelligent" enough to run people's lives. Can't let people run own lives, that's called Liberty or Free Will.

Communists hate free willed people who think for themselves, which is what leftist politicians around the world are striving for. Pol pot dictatorships of their own, via city States aka sanctuary cities.

Ever notice how democrats are all in love with Socialist Democracy...ie communism. Yeah, they think, you don't know how decide for yourselves, that's why they're forcing their bs agendas.

If those leftist ideas were so great, they wouldn't need to be forced on everyone. Think about that reasoning a minute.

originally posted by: sean
a reply to: anonentity
Jailing someone for debt is about as counterproductive as you can get. That is communism for ya. They haven't made the connection yet.

not just communism, capitalists also jail debtors.. sometimes its the easiest option..

a reply to: ADVISOR

much of the west is like that to, you only have to see the spike in rule making or in the usage of terms like unlawful.. where even legal free speech can become unlawful..

what we are seeing is a merger of all the worst of both the thing is we can see the flaws and the cracks are already appearing all around..

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: nickyw

Now the cops are arresting people that owe money, I think we can see where this is going.

the west is already there on that one.

one of things with the trans debate is housing violent males in the same prison as females in the uk female make up 4% of the prison population and a huge chunk are in there for non payment of tv licence fees or local gov taxes..

In 2021, 75% of those prosecuted for TV licence evasion were female. This offence accounted for 18% of all female prosecutions.

so we have those arguing its right to lock male sex offenders in the same cells as female debtors.. the whole thing highlights just how perverse and obscene the west has become.. as for females in this position they don't just lose their kids they lose their home which is exacerbated as kids in care become more liable to be pushed to transition..

at this point its hard to not see the entire world as deeply broken..

a reply to: StoutBroux

I know how that guy feels that was on big money then his world collapsed, exactly the same happened to me years ago with my health , 3 years of nothing then 6 heart attacks in a year , lucky I was one of those kids that had to hit the ground running .

You are spot on about being prepared for the worst case senario , I lived in a little northern village decades ago and the electricity would regularly go out for 3 to 5 days in a bad winter and I witnessed posh gits go bananas at me having electricity ,television etc when the power was out , they were banging at my door demanding to know how I was doing it and they were older people .

A hard knock life taught me a lot

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: StoutBroux

A mobile base, whether it be a small yacht dingy or campervan, would be handy, at present nothing is selling and can be obtained for a song and a promise. Just get some knowledge, like eating escargot (snails) is an excellent food source it just means thinking outside the box.

I have just been offered a small 20 something foot boat by a family member but you are right nothing I put up on ebay is moving at give away prices as LOADS of older guys are dying and family members are giving it away at daft prices or binning it .

A young friend of mine 29 yo was on the phone earlier going on about how he will be going to 4 funerals soon of family with cancer

a reply to: stonerwilliam

I gave the boat idea a lot of thought,It has a couple of two hundred-watt solar panels with an inverter. So I could run the house and the workshop from it. It sits on a trailer so it is also a caravan. The model is a fin keel so when the keel is locked down it is a keeler, so potentially could go anywhere in the world. There are always trade-offs for the perfect idea but it seems to be ticking a lot of survival boxes, not least being able to beach and go up small creeks and inlets. It has ship-to-shore radio so you can talk to others on open marine channels. Any guys thinking along these lines should get a good one while they are there.

a reply to: anonentity

The engines ànd all the fancy fins for it was 18ķ expensive toys and fees etc , I will never take it out again when it's berthed and it's 15 minute walk that i do anyway with the dog 3 times a day , I need a bigger workshop but rents are crazy and with dementiaI might not have the time .

Rents vary, but around here 1200 a month gets you a 1 bedroom. You're looking 3000 dollars just to get into a place and that is IF they approve your application. Oh....So you think ok let's try the government programs like Rural Development. So you can't afford that much payment so they give you a loan and subsidize for you. They make 300-500 month payments for you, which you have to pay back and you pay something like 500. Overall you pay 1000 in reality, but you don't because you will die by the time you get it payed off. As once you pay off the house you then have to pay off the loan. Surprise Surprise, oh and you kids inherit your debt. So you live there till you die with a lower affordable rent basically. Try and do that drawing Social Security etc. The cost of living has skyrocketed and like I said before. The gov says well inflation is only 3%! They don't calculate and include housing, medical, dental, gas, food that is all absolutely horrendous right now. Not to mention just recently car insurance has gone up 22%. That's a huge increase all at once. Oh and don't bother trying to change insurance because they all charge the same. They use to be competitive, but now they all just charge the same. They're stabbing everyone from all directions. Expect a increase. Grrrrr