YouTube Needs To Quit Sanitizing War Videos

a reply to: LittleJake

What lies?

Answer the question, please?

a reply to: nugget1

If Ukraine had not been influenced by the criminal elements of previous administrations here at home, they would have never even considered provoking a powerful neighbor like Russia into attacking them. They were led to believe they would be welcomed into the western sphere of influence without opposition and could oppose Russia with western assistance, so they kept poking the Bear by brutally attacking the ethnic Russian populations of Eastern Ukraine until Putin had had enough of it. With that and the steady encroachment of NATO, he eventually reacted in self-defense of Russia's sovereignty.

In a nutshell!

a reply to: LittleJake

You forgot "de- Nazifying" as an excuse?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Oops! I surely missed that one. My bad.

Actually, that was secondary to their original intent.

a reply to: LittleJake

They were led to believe they would be welcomed into the western sphere of influence without opposition and could oppose Russia with western assistance, so they kept poking the Bear by brutally attacking the ethnic Russian populations of Eastern Ukraine until Putin had had enough of it.

So the 2014 annexation of Crimea , shooting down of a passenger plane and deployment of Wagner PMC to Eastern Ukraine had nothing to do with it ?

Seems to me it's the Bear that's been doing the poking.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

The original intent of NATO was purely a defensive posture toward Russia, but now it has morphed into a very offensive weapon that has only one objective in mind at this point. To destroy the Russian Federation for the capitalist plunder of their natural resources...

a reply to: gortex

We've been poking that Bear since WW2. You know as well as I do.

Originally, historically Russian territory they only took back for the defense of unceasing everlasting encroachment by NATO up to their sovereign territory.


We don't know who shot that plane down. We never will. Ukraine was using Russian munitions at the time.



False Flags have never been uncommon in provoking conflict.

a reply to: LittleJake
I am of a complete different opinion. While I advocate for the truth and therefor have a stance against censoring it and therefor reality, I also see necessity that some things should be handled with a different approach. Violence for example. I a not a big fan of "trigger warnings", because the term has been overused to death and lost it's true meaning, but some things should have a clear warning.

Most people do not cope very well with gore and violence. It's not necessary to watch a war video to know that it must be hell. What you look for is shocking people to wake them up but what it will do is traumatizing such people. Not everyone grew up with the internet and unlimited access to websites like 'rotten' or similar. I am 35 and when I was 12 I knew about that website and saw some pictures than I would like to unsee, if I could. And I did not want to see them, one of the boys was like, "want to see something horror?".

Kids being kids...

You want to get sick to your stomach watching a video?

Watch it to the end to see the absolute cruelty of it all.

Most people do not want to get sick to the stomach watching war or gore videos.

(...) if YouTube would quit sanitizing their content, not only concerning this atrocity in Ukraine but violence in general, more people would realize the horror to which they are an unintentional party to and rise up in opposition to this government's criminality.

Most people do not look forward watching such videos and power through to the end, like you, even though it makes them sick to their stomach.

Watch, and realize the horror of war. A war of this nation's making.

Isn't this a bit histrionic? Russia started this war, partly provoked by Ukraine, with EU and US support. Don't be silly, it was Russia and Ukraine, their combined history and the EU/US/whole NATO behavior in the last 30 years.

Not everybody needs to be shocked like you to understand war is evil and gruesome. And what will it change? Do you think people will suddenly stop doing what they do and protest? Even then it will change nothing. Your government isn't able to influence much anyways, it's mostly up to Ukraine and Russia. Russia is open for talks most of the time even though it won't be about a full retreat but it's Zelensky that constantly denies any talks and wanted to escalate from the beginning.

He literally said that not enough Russians died at some point last year around July/August, only after a heavy strike against Russia (retaliation) they will look for talks.

Of course Biden and the lot helps Zelensky keep this stance with the support. Do you think the world should have left Ukraine completely unprotected? Like in, really completely? Do you think Putin would have stopped if he just overran Ukraine and went full in from the beginning?

There should your concerns lie, not about that people look graphic footage as if it would change anything in the world.

a reply to: LittleJake

We've been pocking that Bear since WW2. You know as well as I do.

I know after the war there was a Cold war between the USSR and the West , the ice thawed and their was glasnost and perestroika between East and West then Putin arrived , now we are where we are.

Originally, historically Russian territory they only took back for the defense of unceasing everlasting encroachment by NATO up to their sovereign territory.

Yeah I remember Putin saying such last year comparing his actions in Ukrain to Peter the Great's exploits , it was no excuse then as now , we live in the 21st Century not the 18th.

a reply to: gortex

Indeed. The Bear has been poking NATO quite a bit, too.

Unfortunately, the Bear has, through a mixture of corruption leading to poor maintenance of equipment and incompetence, lead to it being largely toothless and declawed.

But, of course, Putin's War is not down to him.

Some bigger boys did it and ran away.

Never worked as much of an excuse for me at school.

originally posted by: LittleJake
a reply to: Oldcarpy2
According to Moscow as well as Baker's notes, the famous "not one inch eastward" promise about NATO's eastward expansion was made during this conversation.

Was Baker drunk or an idiot or what? What made him think he could make a secret deal with the Russians? Or are you saying he scammed the Russians? I find it hard to believe they'd be foolish enough to think he had the authority to promise that.

a reply to: TDDAgain

I have to admit, your post is the most difficult so far to reply to.

I respect your opinions concerning showing blood and guts, but in not showing the realities of war just conceals its true nature. As far as watching these types of videos, this is left to the individual to see, or not. But burying one's head in the sand does not alter the reality of it all. It just conceals it from the individual and leaves them without a full understanding of the true nature of war, thereby being unable and unwilling to realize and confront the realities of it all.

Do you think people will suddenly stop doing what they do and protest?

I hope so. That's why they should see it.

Isn't this a bit histrionic? Russia started this war, partly provoked by Ukraine,

Not at all. Provoked by Ukraine at the behest and bidding of politicians such as Barack Obama, Victoria Nuland and co-conspirators, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, even my own senator, and others in collusion with the globalist agenda intent on subduing a vast sovereign nation for plunder. Russia didn't start it. This government did. It only took 25 years to get here, but mongers such as Victoria Nuland, John McCain and Lindsey Graham finally made it happen.

Most of us still hold on to the past historical belief that the Russia of today is still the same old Russia of WW2 and the Cold War. It isn't, by any means, but that belief can't be overcome, because people simply don't want to believe otherwise. Are you the same person you were 30 years ago, if you happen to be as old as me? Is the United States still the same nation as the United States of the 1800s? No it is not, and neither is Russia.

it's mostly up to Ukraine and Russia

Tell that to Lindsey Graham and co. It would have never happened in the first place if it hadn't been for western interference.

Do you think the world should have left Ukraine completely unprotected?

Emphatically, YES! The most corrupt nation across the whole of Europe. The nation that permitted its nation's oligarchs to bribe our now president to betray his own nation for illegally gotten wealth.

As I said, your post is the most provoking and hard to respond to and this is not sufficient in my opinion, but it's the best I can do here and now.

Backed up to give you a star.

a reply to: gortex

then Putin arrived

Then NATO started it's persistent and aggressive advancement further east, ever closer to the Russian border. Still doing it, even now.

originally posted by: LittleJake
Most of us still hold on to the past historical belief that the Russia of today is still the same old Russia of WW2 and the Cold War. It isn't, by any means, but that belief can't be overcome, because people simply don't want to believe otherwise. Are you the same person you were 30 years ago, if you happen to be as old as me? Is the United States still the same nation as the United States of the 1800s? No it is not, and neither is Russia.

This is correct. Russia is more demoralized, corrupt and crony capitalist today than it was 30 years ago, unfortunately.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

And if Russia instigated a color revolution in mexico and put the cartel in power with the goal of bringing them into their own military alliance formed to fight the west do you think we wouldn't invade?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

That's what you are led to believe. Putin is avoiding committing his might against Ukraine because he still holds out hope of coming to a somewhat peaceful resolution of this crisis. He doesn't want a perpetually belligerent nation on his western border any more than we do.
He hasn't even begun to unleash the military might he has at his control.

a reply to: LittleJake

"Oligarchs" you say?

You may be surprised to learn that Russia has quite a few of them.

Well, a few less now that some of them have regrettably fallen out of upper floor windows and such.

Russia, and the multi billionaire Putin, who started life as street thug and petty gangster, has no corruption at all, I suppose?

a reply to: Cutepants

Have come to believe, the best government is no government at all.

a reply to: LittleJake

I've heard that before.

Doesn't get any better by repeating it.