I may have the antidote to the plans of the World Economic Forum .

Thanks for your comments Karl, I hugely respect your work, the outcome is that for anyone who reads it, and checks the source documents, then checks into who did what & when, up to the inauguration of the WEF, it becomes self-evident that fascist, eugenecist thought is what is driving the processes within the World Economic Forum, right up to the present day. They just learned that they need to obfuscate their true intentions since WW2 didn't work out in their favour.

It made me laugh to see that people in this thread (supported by many stars) simply haven't taken the time to check your source material. They claim that there can be no Naziism without Hitler. That's basically playing at semantics. The problem is no longer Hitler & the Nazi party - the problem is the legacy of the fascist, eugenecist thought which directly inspired & then inaugurated the reinvented corporate fronts & the WEF, all driven by those early Nazis & the truly evil, fascist people behind the massive IG Farben cartel. It's so obvious that it literally pains me that people are either ignoring the evidence, or choosing to be deceptive when they say there's no connection between WEF ideology & fascist, eugenecist, even Nazi ideology. It's blatant.

Then someone else decided to call me out as a Swedenborg-imitating individual who lives in a dreamworld 'bubble'. Again, it makes me laugh that they even chose to refer to Swedenborg, whose body of work & exceptional reputation as a scholar really propelled his later material, based on vision & dream states, into the spotlight in Europe hundreds of years ago. His spiritual works are legendary, and there's no way anything I have ever written compares to that. Anyone who doesn't know who Emmanuel Swedenborg is should research the man's history & spiritual works - they are deeply fascinating to anyone with a spiritually open mind.

As a fairly normal Christian (charismatic evangelical) I can still get behind what Swedenborg wrote, because I see many comparative points of value in those writings, which are correlative with my own spiritual/ dream experiences. There's a lot to be gained by reading his work - though I believe that the church which sprang up in his name after his death goes off in the wrong direction, into mediumship & the New Age philosophy. I don't believe that he would have consented to a church of that nature in his name, as he was a steadfast traditional Christian, who simply started having spontaneous visionary & dream experiences which fuelled his faith in his old age, ultimately inspiring millions. Up to the age of something like 52 he had no uncommon spiritual experiences or beliefs - it all came on very suddenly at an advanced age. I believe he had what is known in the church as a 'special dispensation', which is a special gift or ministry which is unique, incomparable to almost everything that has come before - a very powerful ministry of visions & dreams which filled out the gaps in church philosophy, promoting the revealed knowledge supporting proper beliefs regarding Heaven, Hell, the spiritual world, the way angels interact with humans, and so on. The Holy Spirit was promised to "..lead us into all truth". Swedenborg had a singular gifting/ministry which was for that particular season in church history, which we all were supposed to learn from in formulating our proper understanding of the dynamics & features of the spiritual cosmos.

It was no accident that this came via a man who was an exceptionally gifted scientist & a person having high social standing in his native Sweden (he was the royal institute's officially appointed mining engineer, among other things - he was a true polymath with many specialist interests..) He was one of the elite, but his ministry was intended for the benefit of all people. I truly believe that God gives out these special dispensations at certain times in history, for the betterment & development of Mankind, to improve our spiritual knowledge so we can work from a place of understanding & truth, rather than rigid, under-developed dogma & speculation. Swedenborg's work was extremely important, landing just at the intersection between the enlightenment & the industrial revolution, before industrialism became truly widespread, just before the world developed into the modern civilisation we have today. He was chosen as a vessel to plant this information into the consciousness of Humanity, at a very particular time & season in the history of the human race, so that our spiritual understanding would be advanced at the same time our material understanding was increasing.

a reply to: olaru12

Do you honestly think that social media sites can influence the "world's consciousness"? And you call other people naive. Tony Stark indeed...

Do you honestly think social media sites don’t influence people? Have you been living under a rock?

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

the liberal arc goes traditional, new and then when it runs out of ideas and collapses is taken to the next stage by new idealogues, the last time it split into 3 ends, communism, fascism and Naziism..

we are currently at the point when newliberalism collapsed last time and it looks very shaky this time..

lets not forget Boris Johnson's idol Churchill was one of those new liberals just as Johnson is one of those neo liberals..

it'll be interesting to see where the neoliberals pivot to and who becomes the modern equivalent of the Nazis, fascists and communists..

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Some years ago I was heavily invested in what we can collectively do to improve the state of affairs in the world, also most of my adult life I have tried to drop “truth bombs” in conversations to get people to question the world view and narratives they believe in.

What I found was quite eye opening and left me with a bitter taste in my mouth with regards to human psychology. People are easily manipulated if they believe they are being or will benefit in some way from that manipulation, even though they recognise they are being coerced(many don’t) the same is true with a threat or danger, most people think they have courage when the time comes for it, but in reality they unconsciously do everything they can to avoid any real danger or threat. Calculated risks are a different matter, the rewards often outweigh the risks so that is a side category. In general though people think an act selfishly.

At the same time people go along with what everyone else is doing, particularly their peer group or what those they aspire to be like are doing and saying, they will happily parrot along without thought. Most people go through their lives without much thinking at all, if they are thinking it’s about themselves, if they are thinking about others it’s in relation to themselves.

There are genuine acts of kindness and selflessness, an impulse to do the right thing that is innate in our nature. It isn’t valued in our society though (there’s no money or gains to be had for doing something for free expecting nothing in return) and it can’t be as it would result in a fundamental paradigm shift.

So this is ultimately the problem we have to overcome, the laws we have, democracy, capitalism, technology are all fine and have worked for our collective benefit. It’s the corruption of these things, greed, selfishness, the seven deadly sins basically that have created the rot that fuels the WEF and organisations like them.

So what is needed is a shift in consciousness, without this we just exchange one despot for another. The humble person will never rise to power, they simply have no desire for it, the content person will never be going out of their way to gain at others expense, they have no need too.

It seems to me that the megalomaniacs of the world are the ones with the problem and they create problems for the rest of us in turn, because they can’t satiate their desires or quench their greed for more. The fact is they are going about it all the wrong way, if only they could realise its impossible to gain happiness and contentment in the fulfilment of every whim and outward desire they have.
These things come from within, the ego just gets in the way. A shift in your state of mind equals a shift in how you perceive the world around you. The less baggage you have the lighter you can travel.

So in summary a paradigm shift is the only way we can change things for the better, as individuals and as a society. We need to re-evaluate our attitudes and ideas about who we are, what motivates us and why? If we can’t find happiness and contentment in out inner lives first and foremost, we surely aren’t going to find it outside.

originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
Hi folks,

WHAT IF WE COULD ENCOURAGE SOMEONE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY, WHO HAPPENS TO BE A SECRET (OR NOT-SO-SECRET) BILLIONNAIRE, WITH ETHICS & MORALS & CONSCIENCE - AND A NEED TO DO SOMETHING GOOD WITH THEIR MONEY - WHAT IF WE COULD CONVINCE THAT PERSON TO PROGRAM A POWERFUL AI WITH THE PRIME DIRECTIVE OF COMBATTING THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM'S STRATEGIC PLANNING & ROLLOUT OF ANY & ALL SCHEMES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN, ARE NOW OR WILL BE WORKING ON IN THE FUTURE, WHICH DO NOT HAVE THE INTERESTS OF A FREE HUMANITY AT THEIR CORE...?

I was wondering where you were going; and how the argument would inevitably be fallacious; and here it is....

There is no such thing as a billionaire with ethics, morals, and a conscience. You can't become a billionaire and have ethics. You can't make a billion if you have morals. You can't make a billion if you have a conscience.

You see to make a billion; you have to be willing to not care about people; and it's impossible to make that large amount of money honestly; which means you can't have morals or ethics.

People need to understand, there is no honest billionair on the planet earth.

There are only 2,000 billionaires on the planet; and you know what separates those 2,000 people from everybody else?

Morals, ethics, and conscience.

You have to comprimise those values to make a billion. If you still believe this to not be the truth -- you're just wrong.

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: olaru12

Do you honestly think that social media sites can influence the "world's consciousness"? And you call other people naive. Tony Stark indeed...

Do you honestly think social media sites don’t influence people? Have you been living under a rock?

"

Notice I said "worlds consciousness" most people in the world don't have access to the www much less social media.
Try and keep up....

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

1. "Semantics" is not an argument. I always start off from the etymology, the origins of a word. The words fascism, democracy, freedom, spirituality, etc. become meaningless labels due to their overuse.

Eugenics was long around before the rise of fascism and before Hitler's rise to power, just call it what it was without resorting to cheap discrediting tactics (by association). Only liberals are intimidated by the very mention of fascism, more principled revolutionaries will likely investigate it up close, as Molotov did while visiting Italy.

Nazism upheld eugenics as a principle, as an ideology, it was practically a creed; whereas the alleged eugenics promoted by WEF is merely policy, it's relevant as long as it brings them profit. WEF is an interest clique of incompetent, profit-minded managers, just frontmen diverting public attention, just like the billionaires and international bankers. Andrei Fursov drew attention to how the older banking families receded into the background, whatever happened to them?

In other words, WEF should be quite vulnerable to the carrot and stick method. Just like what monarchs did with the Catholic Church. Just like what Zionist founder Theodore Herzl tried to do with Rothschilds and other influential persons. To take a surprisingly insightful page from a typically decadent manga: i.imgur.com... - i.imgur.com...

Therefore, the greater threat is another Hitler who reels them in, similar to what Putin pulled off with oligarchs.

The problem is no longer Hitler & the Nazi party...

There is a high probability of another Hitler showing up on the scene. Neglecting to ascribe exact meanings to words will make it easy for him to seduce people using the exact same catchwords as his predecessor.

According to Ernst Hanfstaengl, "The first secret lay in his choice of words. Every generation develops its own vocabulary of catchwords and phrases, and these date thoughts and utterances." At the time, his catchphrase revolved around "reorganizing" the state, but he ascribed his own meaning to the words, just as he did with "Providence" & "Almighty".

2. Eulogizing and defending a man's legacy is the surest sign of pharisaic moralism. Clearly society is in dire need of critics and satirists to break through the unbroken cacophony of lip service.

Again, it makes me laugh that they even chose to refer to Swedenborg,

If you know the person they admire most, then you know where to start your attack. I paid attention. My enemies will not find it so easy to figure me out, as I have a whole army of historical persons I admire.

...exceptional reputation as a scholar really propelled his later material...

It's very seldom that someone in that position uses his prestige responsibly (1 Cor. 1:20-29). Especially billionaires. What was that saying about a camel going through an eye of a needle?

books.google.com... - i.imgur.com...

[Janet Caldwell's books had a tremendous sale. Janet began throwing her weight around and telling them all that her books sold seven hundred thousand or a million copies, and when she got through talking and boasting about it they would just look at her and say, "Well, your books can't be any good if they sell that many." This was an eye-opener to Janet. "They must be utterly lacking in distinction," one man said to her.]

Woe to you when all the people speak well of you; for their fathers used to treat the false prophets the same way (Luke 6:26).

...a man who was an exceptionally gifted scientist & a person having high social standing in his native Sweden...

So was Goethe, yet his contemporaries did not appreciate him. No prophet welcome in his home country (Luke 4:24). Goethe had the luck of having an Eckermann by his side to record some of his words (though not faithfully). Many treasures from great men of genius were lost to history.

Up to the age of something like 52 he had no uncommon spiritual experiences or beliefs - it all came on very suddenly at an advanced age.

I'll refrain from making a judgment on this matter. Nonetheless, I am not impressed.

Friederike Hauffe only lived for 28 years total yet she bequeathed extremely uncanny insights into the world of spirits, which surpasses the knowledge cultivated by most spiritualists who came before and after her. Observations which are corroborated by the lives of Christian saints and martyrs. The wisdom of youth (Job 32:7-8) must be emphasized as a counterbalance to the misconception that old age guarantees wisdom. Nikola Tesla regretted that he hadn't arrived at the realization of his potential as an inventor in his youth.

The composer Gustav Mahler, who fought a lifelong, upward battle to be recognized and felt utterly alienated from everyone, had far more merit than Swedenborg. Mahler was crowned with a divine epiphany (8th Symphony), so unlike any of his prior works.

The composer Cesar Franck, who didn't receive any adulation until the last moments of his life (just eight months before his death!), had far more merit than Swedenborg. Franck was crowned with a rare visionary sight that permitted him to perceive god's presence at the Altar.

[The Salle Pleyel resounded with such applause as was rarely heard within its walls; the audience all rose to clap, and call for the composer, who, not being able to realise that a quartet could meet with such success, persisted in believing that these acclamations were intended for the performers. When, however, he reappeared on the platform, smiling, shy, and bewildered—he was so unaccustomed to the situation—he could no longer doubt the evidence of such an ovation, and the next day, filled with pride at this first success (in his sixty-ninth year!), he said to us quite naively: "There, you see, the public is beginning to understand me."]

The names of graduates in the ygl program is an interesting read.

It is public information as to who they are.

The family trees of some of them are not surprising given the topic.

If we aren't the solution there isn't one. The root of the problem is morals, or a lack thereof. Never compromise your beliefs and stand in your convictions willing to pay the price. Our problem is mostly fear of ridicule, unemployment, impoverishment or standing out from the crowd. Even if it's a losing fight I know where I stand.

a reply to: olaru12

The majority of the world has mobile phones these days with direct access to social media, where their governments don’t choose to actively censor it. Language barriers are relatively easily overcome with translation tools. The majority isn’t as ignorant as you seem to think.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: olaru12

Do you honestly think that social media sites can influence the "world's consciousness"? And you call other people naive. Tony Stark indeed...

Do you honestly think social media sites don’t influence people? Have you been living under a rock?

"

Notice I said "worlds consciousness" most people in the world don't have access to the www much less social media.
Try and keep up....

not sure where you are at though i would recommend you expand your horizons.. some pretty interesting tech start ups for those places you seem to think of as technological deserts.. india for instance is expanding it 4g as it accelerates its 5g.. we see something similar in africa these are all game changing and leveling technologies..

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
If we aren't the solution there isn't one. The root of the problem is morals, or a lack thereof. Never compromise your beliefs and stand in your convictions willing to pay the price. Our problem is mostly fear of ridicule, unemployment, impoverishment or standing out from the crowd. Even if it's a losing fight I know where I stand.

thats one of the reasons i feel we're at a point of reformation people hate the corruption and want a stable moral foundation.. ironically some of the teen graffiti i see around here is pro christian "jesus saves" stuff as that is seen as the counter culture and i can't help but also think its also very positive compared to the idea they asre the last generation andthe end is nigh atuff pushed at them by the mainstream..

Hi!

I'm here on ATS to understand your thinking and believing.

Why do you think that the world is being manipulated by rich and crazy people who want "us" as "slaves"?
Why do you think the world is bad?
Why are you against the "rich" people?
Why do you think our life is bad?

Is that a personnal sensation? Do you write your threads with information based on facts?

I'm not here to criticize, but to really understand your thinking, ideas and patterns.

Thanks for reading

originally posted by: ufonewsworld

Why do you think that the world is being manipulated by rich and crazy people who want "us" as "slaves"?
Why do you think the world is bad?
Why are you against the "rich" people?
Why do you think our life is bad?

at what point in history hasn't the world been manipulated by rich crazy people and when haven't they wanted slaves to do their every bidding. at times they even write it all out neatly as a manifesto, the green movement is based on achieving a stable population by reducing humanity by 50% (some rich people today suggest the reduction should be 75%)

the same types are evident at the turn of the 20th century and their desire to kill off the poor, there is an old expression that states the equation for this is as, when the poor get fewer the rest get richer, that's not an equation a good, poor or sane person would create..

as for our lives these same people want everyone poorer, colder, hungrier and fighting the world for basic healthcare... its a the kind of let them eat cake moral bankruptcy that'll force the next evolutionary or revolutionary change..

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

I make up movie plots and books in my head at work to keep boredom at bay. One I did was a plot that gave me a warm feeling every time I thought about it. It was the downfall of the Illuminati. Just a series of events snowball and all their Machiavellian schemes and plans unravel and they're exposed openly to the public who absolutely destroys them. It was a TV based series in my interpretation. Just imagine busloads of government officials and elected leaders bing shipped off to federal prisons, mass suicides of the elite and once loved Hollywood A listers as they're exposed. Meaning human trafficking, ritualized child sexual abuse, planned genocide. Of course they'd fight back, notably having assassins working to stop the good guys from taking down the world leaders of evil. I had a scene where supposed enemy talking heads from political spectrums end up sharing a jail community room table and commiserate with their charade being over. That and the POTUS being led away in handcuffs and being roughed up by police as he's being led away.
In the end the world banks are broken up and dismantled, the great banking families are stripped of all their wealth and Hollywood is in ruins. The FBI, CIA, DOJ, ... gone and replaced by new citizen representatives. A few Illuminati are left hiding in bunkers and are still being hunted. Happy times.

a reply to: SRPrime

In trying times it is perfectly feasible that just one of those 2,000 billionaires will have a change of heart, an epiphany, thereafter they may indeed decide that quietly, simply, without fanfare, they will do the right thing.

Did you not read about Doug, one of the founders of Blackberry? He made his billions without even once compromising his ethical principles. He was/is a humble engineer at heart, and made his money by simply choosing to walk away from the corruption that had overtaken the hearts & minds of his business partners. He simply sold his stock at the peak of Blackberry's success, and quietly walked away as one of the richest men in the world. He now lives a quiet & very private life, he is not one of the many who interfere & push crazy, selfish beliefs on everyone else. And being a tech genius himself, he's perfectly suited to this concept of using some of his money to privately fund an AI that will strategise to block the actions of the World Economic Forum. He would need to operate in tandem with good people in the world of military intelligence who reject the WEF plans for depopulation & enslavement. Perhaps a faction in MI6 would help him to achieve the objective, exactly as I saw in my dream a year before thinking about any of this in waking life.

And if we can prove there is one ethical billionaire, as I just did, then there's every chance that at least a few more exist, perhaps they inherited their wealth rather than slitting throats to climb the mountain, as most billionaires have done to get to the top. Those who inherit often have a different worldview to that of their parents/ benefactors. If there are even a handful of these ethical billionaires, then everything I've suggested is perfectly feasible. But the idea must be seeded into their conscious awareness. Who knows - perhaps that MI6 faction, defenders of the faith, might approach suitable targets & proposition them., deputising them into the secret war on tyranny.

Godspeed to all those who don the mantle - I hope these people exist, and that they succeed. Heaven knows we need them, now more than ever...