Congressman has grim take after access to UFO footage. 'We can't handle it'

a reply to: ancientlight

There's plenty of evidence of anient technology and unexplained megastructures.

All of which ancient humans were capable of.

I have yet to see any evidence of advanced intelligence on Earth.

I think they fear man too. Even if we're inferior to them living under them like a vassal. We would become powerful at some point to resist. Then they have to accept us as equal members of the galactic community. Don't underestimate the ability of man reinventing the wheel with precision and perfection.

a reply to: ancientlight

Well whats interesting about it... Is it sort of opened a window of conjecture or a portal of sorts. Where ordinary people that by all previous experiences with them were of sound mind and sound body; That even though it was a psy-op made those very same people seem or sound crazy as reports f crafts and beings started coming out like kicking a fire-ant mound.

Some looking into might say; it produced evidence or credence for a temporary insanity defense as a plausible and real thing, Some others might say it opened the mind for a bit for people to actually see the unseen as an altered state of consciousness and with all of that sort of conjecture? That is unknown or not out of the realm of possibility is that for a fact various phenomena took place as a side effect of that broadcast in a sample of the population that was exposed to it.

Whether it(The events and reports surrounding the broadcast) matched the usual base number of such seemingly outlandish phenomenal reports as the rest of the population did elsewhere as population in reporting strange sights and sounds that are as statistics likely to go on at a regular given rate/statistic... But not necessarily the UFO phenomena, but like those such as Bigfoot or Nessie like observations around the woods or a lake or a pareidolia of clothes and shadows looking like people in a certain angle of light exposure as the catalyst.

If setting up a catalyst has a rough estimation or statistic to the amount of people that would be affected and not just a random amount... Then I's say it would be a fair thing to say all of it being presented as a reality or possible one is false and out of the realm of even remotely existing as a possibility; As tricking the mind in such a manner under such circumstances is repeatable with a given set or number of people known that would react or be sensitive to such an occurrence or basically enough people to unconsciously bring or give a thought form a seemingly actual consciousness and be convincing enough in that delusion for it to be grasped by those not present with an intensity enough to convince them that whatever it was; was real(as they really believe it to be) and not just imagined or held as a real possibility by a large number of people in the area...

On another level there is the urge or desire to herd and seek acceptance; That even among what some one would normally not around those sorts of in that situation say were insane or nut jobs.

Not even on this topic(ufo disclosure) but anywhere a large mass of people or group of people exist; It could be said that such as that occurs as a regular phenomena... with political parties, religions, country, etc. hence why the loner is always the opposition/enemy/scapegoat/martyr forever keeping the ideal one step or grasp away. No where have I ever looked have I not seen that phenomena anywhere that human concepts have been or exist.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: putnam6
Already posted.

My opinion is Big Oil and Big Energy conglomerates are the big players in repressing this as this technology offers essentially "free energy" and they will lose their trillion dollar industry of selling oik and energy to the masses.

I really don’t think that’s it. It’s much more likely the tech is way more advanced then our ability to understand or duplicate it.

a reply to: putnam6

I believe in the phenomena because I've had fist hand experiences with it.

I do not believe any of the BS narrative that began since 2017 and especially this latest round where the most idiotic of all folks who are now being involved.

Politicians.

I don't care what side of the isle a politician sits. They are all the same. Idiots who do not care about the common populace.

They are nothing more than the unwitting fools in this latest game being played by the hands behind the curtain.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: putnam6

Weren't rumors once fiber optics was potentially something we gleaned from UFO tech?

I think that was velcro...

You are probably correct, I've read so many theories about this or that. Got an account on Scribd and damn they have loads of old and new articles and "documents" about UFOs.

I remember way back in the 90s downloading The Dulce Base report and the Aliens species pdf, on my old dial-up modem and here they both were on Scribd

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
Is the Xtro ……. from one of my movie faves….

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Yep, about that time, the zero just rhymes and prevents someone else from taking the name in MMOs etc.

I'm not sure of whom I am referring to when I say "they" but I'm sure they will disclose everything which means it's too late for us. They... will have established a safe escape or we will have lost any control that we think we might have. A day will come when It's too late for us because our voices are not being heard AND we are not taking action. reply to: putnam6

originally posted by: tc888u
I'm not sure of whom I am referring to when I say "they" but I'm sure they will disclose everything which means it's too late for us. They... will have established a safe escape or we will have lost any control that we think we might have. A day will come when It's too late for us because our voices are not being heard AND we are not taking action. reply to: putnam6

Yea isn't there far out stories where initially we had treaties with a species or 2 of NHE, where they could harvest a certain amount of humans for their experiments, but we found out they were abducting so many more like lots more

I've also read theories of PTB around the world will be moving into bunkers and facilities in the Australian outback
and New Zealand.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: tc888u
I'm not sure of whom I am referring to when I say "they" but I'm sure they will disclose everything which means it's too late for us. They... will have established a safe escape or we will have lost any control that we think we might have. A day will come when It's too late for us because our voices are not being heard AND we are not taking action. reply to: putnam6

Yea isn't there far out stories where initially we had treaties with a species or 2 of NHE, where they could harvest a certain amount of humans for their experiments, but we found out they were abducting so many more like lots more

I've also read theories of PTB around the world will be moving into bunkers and facilities in the Australian outback
and New Zealand.

I think it was John Leer who told that story decades ago. It's an impressive story, until you begin to understand disinformation and psy-op campaigns.

Imagine that you have to be either super rich, super well known, or super powerful, to be able to look forward to the rest of your life in a bunker.

a reply to: putnam6

Weren't rumors once fiber optics was potentially something we gleaned from UFO tech?

All that is required to discover basic fiber optics is light, a stream of clear liquid (could be pee), and a shadow.

With the stream of clear liquid being in the light, and it's end point being in a shadow, a circle of the stream of transported photons (light) can be seen in the shadow that the stream ends.

Although, this can be demonstrated with sunlight and shadows, and seen be people urinating under the right conditions, it's better demonstrated with the help of a laser.

originally posted by: RickestRick
a reply to: putnam6

I believe in the phenomena because I've had fist hand experiences with it.

I do not believe any of the BS narrative that began since 2017 and especially this latest round where the most idiotic of all folks who are now being involved.

Politicians.

I don't care what side of the isle a politician sits. They are all the same. Idiots who do not care about the common populace.

They are nothing more than the unwitting fools in this latest game being played by the hands behind the curtain.

Would like to hear about your experience and your thoughts and theories.

Because Ive never had an experience, but definitely believe no matter what TPTB releases(if they ever do) it will be only the partial story or total and complete bullchit

originally posted by: IndieA

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: tc888u
I'm not sure of whom I am referring to when I say "they" but I'm sure they will disclose everything which means it's too late for us. They... will have established a safe escape or we will have lost any control that we think we might have. A day will come when It's too late for us because our voices are not being heard AND we are not taking action. reply to: putnam6

Yea isn't there far out stories where initially we had treaties with a species or 2 of NHE, where they could harvest a certain amount of humans for their experiments, but we found out they were abducting so many more like lots more

I've also read theories of PTB around the world will be moving into bunkers and facilities in the Australian outback
and New Zealand.

I think it was John Leer who told that story decades ago. It's an impressive story, until you begin to understand disinformation and psy-op campaigns.

Imagine that you have to be either super rich, super well known, or super powerful, to be able to look forward to the rest of your life in a bunker.

Probably there are so many variations out there, most are no doubt complete bunk or possible disinformation. I read about fiber optics and other supposed reversed alien tech in the "Day After Roswell". Which was after Leer's account, so he definitely could have latched on to it and embellished upon it.

Have to admit, I still can't decide what the deal was with Colonel Corso. He did truly great and heroic service to the US during WW2 and the Korean War, but his book "The Day After Roswell" still generates heated debate.

Essentially, he states that technologies such as:

Night vision (image intensifiers),

Fiber optics

Integrated circuits

Kevlar

Lasers

Particle accelerators

were either the direct result of or benefited greatly in development speed from material salvaged from the alleged Roswell crash and retrieval. Whether true or not, it does raise a very interesting point...

Many people would imagine that if a UAP were obtained by some method, it would either be so far beyond our understanding as to be useless or that we would quickly unlock all its secrets and leap forward decades/centuries/millennia etc etc...

But what if the truth is somewhere in between?


That's the thing the is only one truth and yet loads of widely varying accounts.

a reply to: putnam6

At some point you have to think that if Aliens are so advanced….that if they use what we call and know as electronics……….their electronics have to be so far in advance that we would not be able to reverse engineer it as something we can build with our antique electronics…..i.e. resistors, capacitors, inductors, diodes, i.c.’s…..etc.

If they use any type of electronics……what if the materials used for parts have isotopes we have yet to discover or replicate ….or minerals not found on earth.

You cannot duplicate something you don’t have the raw resources for.

Also…look at this way….if they use the same Ol types of electronic parts we use……how “Advanced” could they be?

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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: putnam6



Also…look at this way….if they use the same Ol types of electronic parts we use……how “Advanced” could they be?

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Here is a trick part, imo. If, say, teleport technology discovered and implemented fast enough, electronics might not develop that fast and might not be related or rely on current electronics tech. Just a thought..

I mean, if tomorrow Star Gate is found, how would it relate to the current state of electronics tech? We would walk into the portal with our current comm devices.

originally posted by: DaydreamerV

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: putnam6



Also…look at this way….if they use the same Ol types of electronic parts we use……how “Advanced” could they be?

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Here is a trick part, imo. If, say, teleport technology discovered and implemented fast enough, electronics might not develop that fast and might not be related or rely on current electronics tech. Just a thought..

I mean, if tomorrow Star Gate is found, how would it relate to the current state of electronics tech? We would walk into the portal with our current comm devices.

Ah yes….but if you wanted to make copies of the Star Gate……it may not be able to be reversed engineered using our current technology, our current parts.

Hmmm

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Not to use a movie quote but it does apply, I paraphrase "Sure we couldn't understand how it worked but, it showed us different directions to experiment with"

It's like with Fiber optics no matter how long ago it was discovered here, that person had no idea of all of the possibilities it opened up.

Obviously, there needs to be a fairly high threshold of knowledge of mathematics, engineering, and physics. We could plop an I iPhone down in the 15th century and it would be hidden away by the church but nobody would know what it was or how it worked

a reply to: putnam6

We could plop an I iPhone down in the 15th century and it would be hidden away by the church but nobody would know what it was or how it worked

To expand…..here’s the scenario.

The IPhone just materializes somewhere and is taken to the church…..the clergy fiddles with it and manages to turn it on (assuming no password required). It’s a miracle! An instrument sent by God…..they proceed to click on apps…..in wonder. They determine this instrument to be a gift not to squander. They incorporate it into special ceremonies only the clergy perform.

One day, a new clergy apprentice gets a hold of it……and like a child of today….he plays with it secretly from the other clergy. He plays and plays …..then the screen goes blank!

It becomes futile for him to turn back on, the gift from God.

The sadness and guilt is overwhelming……he confesses to the senior clergy.

The senior clergy tries and tries to turn the iPhone back on to no avail…even to chant and pray to it…again to no avail.

They accuse the apprentice clergy of heresy….of being an agent of Satan to prevent the clergy from using a gift from God.

They burn the apprentice clergy at the stake. They then bury the IPhone in the dungeon bowls of the church, never to be seen again…….

Fast forward to the present……

An archeological apprentice excavates the old church ruins and discovers the iPhone…..he’s perplexed as to how it got there…….he presses the on button and nothing……he turns to his teammates and ask’s “HEY! does anyone have a mobile charger?”

Such is the irony of technology…..

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The big ship is on the moon....easier to hide and keep watch over it from there. There is a maned moon base nearby.

Something that might help all of you A.T.S' ers most others won't pay attention to... look up "Solar Warden" it has been going on for a while now.... actually, since the 50s. A lot has moved forward since then...

The Navy is now working with "The Galactic Federation" in securing and enhancing the Sol system along with others in the local group... Solar Warden has been enhanced with additional stellar vehicles.. A hospital ship for one and many others.

The need for the United Earth ***** to exist is required for stellar inclusion with the local communities both in Sol System and in the Federation as a whole.

Earth must throw off the fear of a One World Order if we are to obtain a place in the cosmic society.

I would humbly suggest a world congress and senate to reside for "The Free Peoples of "The Republic Nations of Earth"

let the future be filled with Joy and Prosperity for all Citizens of the Federation of Aligned Worlds!!!

Glory to God's Name, Amen!

originally posted by: Crowfoot

Whether it(The events and reports surrounding the broadcast) matched the usual base number of such seemingly outlandish phenomenal reports as the rest of the population did elsewhere as population in reporting strange sights and sounds that are as statistics likely to go on at a regular given rate/statistic... But not necessarily the UFO phenomena, but like those such as Bigfoot or Nessie like observations around the woods or a lake or a pareidolia of clothes and shadows looking like people in a certain angle of light exposure as the catalyst.

If setting up a catalyst has a rough estimation or statistic to the amount of people that would be affected and not just a random amount... Then I's say it would be a fair thing to say all of it being presented as a reality or possible one is false and out of the realm of even remotely existing as a possibility; As tricking the mind in such a manner under such circumstances is repeatable with a given set or number of people known that would react or be sensitive to such an occurrence or basically enough people to unconsciously bring or give a thought form a seemingly actual consciousness and be convincing enough in that delusion for it to be grasped by those not present with an intensity enough to convince them that whatever it was; was real(as they really believe it to be) and not just imagined or held as a real possibility by a large number of people in the area...

There are a few possibilities here. I believe people are seeing something, but I don't believe it is actual living aliens. The vast majority of "ships" are just too small to start, so they would need to be more like non-life probes. People also just do not understand how big space is and that is very problematic for life, but not for something like self-replicating AI. I read that if an ancient race sent out a massive number of scout probes they could cover the known universe in 2 billion years, so we could be experiencing AI doing the job of collecting data to send back to a race billions of years long gone.

The UFO phenomenon also has some hard points to not overlook too. It all started small as in "saucers" and over the years it has evolved into a more complex scenario that means only two things, and one is more correct. Either it is a human construct that we have grown through our imagination like we can with Star Wars/Star Trek or Aliens have had some really funky advancements in a very short period of time. It's like the Wright brothers trying to fly 100 feet and an SR-71 flies over in terms of how fast our brains have evolved this phenomenon in such few years.

The same is with Big Foot as in it was a good story, but now we know so much about how they really can't be out there as we are still, like with UFOs, stuck in the witness/photo stage never expanding out of that. Then we invent things to explain it all away like Big Foot is actually a multidimensional creature that doesn't really live here and so that accounts for such a small population that would have had them die out to the loss of genetic variations a long time ago.

Lastly, the improvements in tech have not brought us one inch closer to the truth. On a planet where 7 billion people have an instant video camera, we actually have fewer sightings than in the past and no better pictures/video. Add in drones of our own and Big Foot is still at the same level as the 1960s. UFOs are not much better than the 1950s...

The huge constant lack of anything is what truly drives my beliefs in all this, but I will say that the whole self-replicating AI is about the most plausible choice if I need to pick one.