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Dutch government collapses over immigration and asylum seeking policies

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posted on Jul, 8 2023 @ 07:16 PM
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www.france24.com...


Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte's coalition government collapsed Friday over "insurmountable" differences on how to tackle migration, with elections expected in November.


It looks like immigration is a huge issue for many European countries that need to come up with a viable solution to tackle the problem given the discontent among a large number of Europeans.

The Dutch government is on record for trying to cut nitrogen emissions and in the process put out of business a large part of farmers who have revolted and rightfully so. Mainstream media won't say much about what's happening in the country. As a result of these ridiculous environmental policies in the last Dutch provincial elections the Farmer-Citizen Movement emerged as the big winner back in March 2023.

www.theguardian.com...

A few things to note:

Immigration
Ridiculous environmental policies
Green Agendas
Attempts to steal land from farmers

:www.dw.com...


Good riddance to the Dutch government. Hopefully sane people could take over.
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posted on Jul, 8 2023 @ 07:18 PM
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a reply to: AlienBorg

I saw this. Trying to remain optimistic it's not just political theater. "left' , 'right', 'green' all follow the same agenda IMO.



posted on Jul, 8 2023 @ 07:27 PM
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Civil unrest has been growing across the globe, with little attention in the MSM. All we hear about is how dangerously hot it is in the mid-west; crickets on 1200 buildings and 5600 cars torched in France, Dutch farmers protesting, Germans and Canadians protesting-even the protests in the US barley get mentioned, unless they can finger a conservative.

Fighting for what's right gets vilified and criminalized while bad behavior that follows the agenda gets rewarded.



posted on Jul, 8 2023 @ 07:34 PM
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originally posted by: ancientlight
a reply to: AlienBorg

I saw this. Trying to remain optimistic it's not just political theater. "left' , 'right', 'green' all follow the same agenda IMO.


In the Netherlands there has been a lot of discontent among ordinary citizens for a range of government policies over the last 4-5 years.



posted on Jul, 8 2023 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: nugget1
Civil unrest has been growing across the globe, with little attention in the MSM. All we hear about is how dangerously hot it is in the mid-west; crickets on 1200 buildings and 5600 cars torched in France, Dutch farmers protesting, Germans and Canadians protesting-even the protests in the US barley get mentioned, unless they can finger a conservative.

Fighting for what's right gets vilified and criminalized while bad behavior that follows the agenda gets rewarded.


You must fight for your rights and this is what the dutch farmers have done for a number of years.

Going back to immigration, most people are not racist or insensitive, they just want reasonable and realistic numbers of immigrants in their countries.



posted on Jul, 8 2023 @ 07:57 PM
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If anyone followed another of my threads you found see the frustration of the hungarian people over EU immigration quotas. Hungary has repeatedly rejected these quotas and made it clear they don't want this sort of interference in internal matters from the EU.



posted on Jul, 8 2023 @ 08:11 PM
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posted on Jul, 8 2023 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: gb540


I didn't hear you...



posted on Jul, 8 2023 @ 08:52 PM
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posted on Jul, 8 2023 @ 11:55 PM
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originally posted by: nugget1
Civil unrest has been growing across the globe, with little attention in the MSM. All we hear about is how dangerously hot it is in the mid-west; crickets on 1200 buildings and 5600 cars torched in France, Dutch farmers protesting, Germans and Canadians protesting-even the protests in the US barley get mentioned, unless they can finger a conservative.

Fighting for what's right gets vilified and criminalized while bad behavior that follows the agenda gets rewarded.


Remember I said about 6 months ago that people with money are liquidating what they can and tried to have a business in Japan getting the right Visa this is really true people the amount of people coming into Japan applying for special types of Visa is on the rise and right now the Japanese government is making it possible 40 years ago it was almost impossible but now it's possible and there are many islands here that you can start a business a small business even a agricultural business because the aging of the farmers are like 80 years old now and the government has foreign policies to help you get started so in all reality that's true people are actually trying to get into Japan to get away from me Insanity across the globe



posted on Jul, 9 2023 @ 01:46 AM
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a reply to: musicismagic

You know the song 'Big in Japan?



posted on Jul, 9 2023 @ 01:57 AM
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a reply to: AlienBorg

I'm rooting for the dutch farmer party to get more seats



posted on Jul, 9 2023 @ 02:40 AM
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originally posted by: TheToastmanCometh
a reply to: AlienBorg

I'm rooting for the dutch farmer party to get more seats


They're on the path of becoming a major political power. In the last provincial elections back in March 2023 they became the third largest party in the country.



posted on Jul, 9 2023 @ 03:09 AM
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No surprise here. People are starting to get fed-up, seeing their towns and cities turn to # when yet another new center is opened to accommodate the refugee influx. Shops are looted, bus drivers and passengers are intimidated and assaulted, bikes and other properties are stolen, gardens are used as lavatories, fights amongst the refugees themselves, the list goes on. If that wasn’t enough, many dutch people’s children aren’t able to get an appartement or home because some refugees, like Ukrainians for instance, are prioritized.

This whole insanity has to stop. What are we supposed to do with all these people anyway? What’s wrong with saying “enough is enough”? A country should put the safety and welfare of it’s own citizens before anything else, and people have the right to demand so, it’s their hard earned tax money that is being used. Besides, automation and AI will only create less jobs, not more, so what will all these people be doing? Taking in all these people has to make sense, now, and in the long term, this doesn’t. We’re (governments) knowingly taking on more than we can handle, no one benefits from this, aside from the politicians and the institutions involved.

Society has to be based on logic, not sentiment.



posted on Jul, 9 2023 @ 04:32 AM
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originally posted by: 2Faced
No surprise here. People are starting to get fed-up, seeing their towns and cities turn to # when yet another new center is opened to accommodate the refugee influx. Shops are looted, bus drivers and passengers are intimidated and assaulted, bikes and other properties are stolen, gardens are used as lavatories, fights amongst the refugees themselves, the list goes on. If that wasn’t enough, many dutch people’s children aren’t able to get an appartement or home because some refugees, like Ukrainians for instance, are prioritized.

This whole insanity has to stop. What are we supposed to do with all these people anyway? What’s wrong with saying “enough is enough”? A country should put the safety and welfare of it’s own citizens before anything else, and people have the right to demand so, it’s their hard earned tax money that is being used. Besides, automation and AI will only create less jobs, not more, so what will all these people be doing? Taking in all these people has to make sense, now, and in the long term, this doesn’t. We’re (governments) knowingly taking on more than we can handle, no one benefits from this, aside from the politicians and the institutions involved.

Society has to be based on logic, not sentiment.



Based



posted on Jul, 9 2023 @ 04:54 AM
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originally posted by: TheToastmanCometh
a reply to: AlienBorg

I'm rooting for the dutch farmer party to get more seats


why? they lie.



posted on Jul, 9 2023 @ 06:41 AM
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originally posted by: meiosismb

originally posted by: TheToastmanCometh
a reply to: AlienBorg

I'm rooting for the dutch farmer party to get more seats


why? they lie.


Care to explain this?



posted on Jul, 9 2023 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: AlienBorg

In the Netherlands there has been a lot of discontent among ordinary citizens for a range of government policies over the last 4-5 years.


It is really strange. I have written in the past that full socialism works there because the Dutch live a minimalist lifestyle and so are not a consumer society such as ours is. They are typically meek people that are happy with very little and devote most of their time to their family and friends. How did such authoritarians get into office?



posted on Jul, 9 2023 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: 2Faced

This whole insanity has to stop. What are we supposed to do with all these people anyway? What’s wrong with saying “enough is enough”?



The problem with a fully socialized society is that it works much better for a smaller population that is 100% on board with that type of government. The population of this country is only 17 million and within that, there needs to be a very strong workforce that is willing to work for the masses. When that starts to break down as we see in France then the society starts to not have faith in the Government they support with their hard labor.

If you bring in mass immigration well past what would be a good flow within the society then you are bringing in a force of people with differences in everything as to what the Netherlands have created and the new influx of people are at a level that they can say we don't like what the Netherland has created and so we don't want to participate or work for the masses, but we want to take full advantage of the socialized aspect that everyone enjoys. This creates many more people feeding off the special programs without fully investing themselves to support it too that basically drains the system that is a lot more fragile than what people would think. This is what has been happening in France as the system has less and less money coming in and the people demand to either stay the same or have more support, well past what the government can provide. Just changing retirement from 62 to 65 has created massive havoc among its workers.
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posted on Jul, 9 2023 @ 05:14 PM
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I wonder if what happened in Sweden has started a groundswell of popular uprising against the ruling class?

I hope this is replicated across Europe, and we see real change, away from the WEF mandates & towards sanity.

We sincerely need it.

Could say so much more but will keep it brief for now.



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