Was the Mosul Orb developed from a reverse engineered Betz Sphere

Was the Mosul Orb developed from a reversed engineered Betz Sphere?

I had heard and read some news about a sphere with unusual properties such as autonomous intelligent rolling movement, vibrations, and transmission of radio waves….completely sealed with no seams or disassembly features for internal access. It was x-rayed to discover material, internally, had an atomic weight of 140!

The sphere known to be the Betz Sphere was found on the Florida property of the Betz family.

To get the scoop….watch this


Fast forward to current times….we have the Mosul Orb


It is said that the Betz Sphere was loaned to the Navy and or Dr. Allen J. Hynek for test and analysis ….and a then substitution was made where a replacement sphere was returned back to the Betz family….however the sphere was not the same sphere loaned out for testing. The sphere no longer had the unusual properties. In other words ….the Ol switch-a-roo was done to the Betz family.

What if the Mosul Orb was a reversed engineered Betz Sphere…….

In the course of reverse engineering the Betz Sphere….it might have been discovered that the Betz Sphere was capable of flight…but somehow got damaged….hence being found on the ground by a member of the Betz family.

So then in reproducing the Betz Sphere into a UAP Orb ….it’s newer renditions are able to fly.

Perhaps the Pais Orb/Sphere was reversed engineered from the Betz Sphere? The Betz Sphere was found in 1974…the Pais patent was filed in 2015.

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All speculation of course.

Food for thought…

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Maybe the military already had those orbs, and they were just retrieving their lost property.

Not like they would admit it was one of theirs.

originally posted by: NewNobodySpecial268
Maybe the military already had those orbs, and they were just retrieving their lost property.

Not like they would admit it was one of theirs.

Could just be a pulsed laser, or maser, plasma.

This not so new plasma tech could explain most sightings since the plasmas can be seen visually, thermally, and with radar.

In some cases, they could be being generated from the same vehicles filming them.

originally posted by: NewNobodySpecial268
Maybe the military already had those orbs, and they were just retrieving their lost property.

Not like they would admit it was one of theirs.

No, they would not, but for decades they denied they had information UAPs/UFOs too. But I lean towards our military knows more than they are letting on about but they don't control it.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
It was x-rayed to discover material, internally, had an atomic weight of 140!

Why the exclamation mark?

a reply to: ArMaP

Possibly because there is no known stable element with an exact atomic weight of 140 in our periodic table.

Is the Betz sphere a damaged Foo Fighter?

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

How can reverse engineering part of a valve from a mill create a water puddle in a road that gives the optical illusion of a flying sphere ?

a reply to: ArMaP

The exclamation mark is for ….amazement.

Andy06…understood that 👍🏼

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Spheres, Orbs, Balls have been around for some time. I’m reminded of the artist rendition of the sky war in Nuremberg Germany in 1561.



It’s anybody’s guess as to why Ball shapes are one of the most popular shapes of the Phenomenon…imo

Note: Aerodynamically….the teardrop shape has been proven to fly with the least resistance through air.

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Hecklefish is so cute and not a bad singer! LOL

I think it's too small to be a foo fighter, I think the Betz floors were most likely off kilter, I think putting it on the window sill in the sun heated the metal up enough for it to make expansion sounds, the x-rays indicating a hollow interior with three more spheres, if the ball was forged, may have been material added in the forging process or we would need to investigate the xray methodology, the vibrating of the sphere could have been by the sound waves from the guitar playing, hitting it with a hammer and hearing ringing could be tuning fork thingie, ...that's all I got for now.



The video above was just metal rods making vibrational sounds.

Oh maybe none of the above.

As for the Mosul Orb, could it be space debris falling to Earth?

pauldmaley.com...

originally posted by: quintessentone

I think it's too small to be a foo fighter, I think the Betz floors were most likely off kilter, I think putting it on the window sill in the sun heated the metal up enough for it to make expansion sounds, the x-rays indicating a hollow interior with three more spheres, if the ball was forged, may have been material added in the forging process or we would need to investigate the xray methodology, the vibrating of the sphere could have been by the sound waves from the guitar playing, hitting it with a hammer and hearing ringing could be tuning fork thingie, ...that's all I got for now.

You're probably right.

I went through this on another thread a while ago, I have a link to a great analysis by a professional x-ray technician that explains the internal spheres and the apparent density/atomic number of the material and why it may not be correct. Check it out:
Betz Sphere X-Rays

Dr. Mike, astonishinglegends.com
4. Whether an x-ray photon gets blocked by an object depends on these factors: the object's density (metals are densest, noble gases less dense), its atomic number (higher means more electrons to interact with the x-ray), the thickness of the object parallel to the x-ray path (a long rod oriented in the direction of the x-ray beam has a higher chance of absorbing or scattering the x-ray) and the energy of the x-ray.

5. Because of the steel/nickel shell, most of the lower energy x-rays will be removed before passing into the interior of the sphere, a process called "beam hardening." Only higher energy photons will remain. The higher energy photons have a greater chance of passing through a material without being absorbed. This means that thinner, less dense, lower atomic number objects are less likely to be detected inside the metal container.

6. And so, because the small spheres inside are optically denser than the surrounding, Dr. Harder assumed that they had a much higher anatomic number than iron and nickel, which make up the shell.

7. However, You can see blood vessels inside of the lung on chest x-rays (radiographs), and they appear optically denser than the ribs, especially the ribs on the far side of the detector/film. So what is essentially water (pulmonary vessels) shows up optically denser than calcium (bone). I'm not sure of the physics behind this, but I think this is because the pulmonary blood vessels are surrounded by air and the high contrast between air in the lungs and the adjacent blood vessels makes them visible. You can't see the blood vessels surrounded by other tissues in the chest wall or mediastinum. In other words, the small spheres inside are visible because they are surrounded by air, and can be made of any material that does a decent job of stopping some of the x-rays (probably not wood or plastic).

a reply to: wavelength

Yes, the xray methodology was bugging me, thanks for that and what it seems to me is that the sphere should have been investigated using MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) or PET (Positron Emission Topography) for a 3D look see.

There is only one view of the object. In radiology, we say that "one view is no view." This is because you are taking a 3D object and displaying it on a 2D surface. The spots inside the object may be flat, spheres, or long rods parallel to the x-ray beam. Their location is also not clear. They can be anywhere from the x-ray source housing, surface of the object, interior of the object, far surface, x-ray intensifier screen, x-ray film. The copying process could create them.

www.doemedicalsciences.org...#:~:text=The%20first%20PET%20camera%20was,Presidential%20Award%20for%20his%20work.

They had a working PET in 1973 maybe they should have taken it to the University of Washington for imaging.

Hypothetical…..


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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Second question: how can the atomic weight of an unknown material be calculated by using X-Ray?

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Second question: how can the atomic weight of an unknown material be calculated by using X-Ray?

Maaaaaybe this answers your question….

How are X-rays used to determine the atomic number of an element?

Henry Moseley studied the X-ray spectra of several elements and determined their atomic numbers (Z).

He discovered a correlation between atomic number and the frequency of X-rays generated by bombarding an clement with high energy of electrons.

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a reply to: putnam6

No, they would not, but for decades they denied they had information UAPs/UFOs too. But I lean towards our military knows more than they are letting on about but they don't control it.

That would suggest they are in cahoots with someone else. And if someone gives them knowledge, they would want insurance.

I think so too. : )


a reply to: IndieA

Could just be a pulsed laser, or maser, plasma.

This not so new plasma tech could explain most sightings since the plasmas can be seen visually, thermally, and with radar.

Good thought, you got me wondering about hitting the orb with a directed energy beam.

In the movie they said sunlight would charge the orb. What about a laser?

What about multiple lasers from different locations?

The thing might reach incredible speeds and acrobatic turns. Might even glow with plasma.

If something went wrong like a laser power failure it might shoot off like a bullet and land in someone's field. Good luck finding a bullet in those circumstance. How embarrassing.

Now what if we put a frame around the sphere. Enough energy maybe to lift the frame.

Let's electrify the frame as a power source for the ball.

What the heck, let's make a triangular frame and paint it black. We would have MSBTUFO (Modestly Small Black Triangular Unidentified Flying Object : )

Build a bigger black frame with an orb in each corner and we have a manoeuvrable stable frame: a BBTUFO.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Second question: how can the atomic weight of an unknown material be calculated by using X-Ray?

Maaaaaybe this answers your question….

How are X-rays used to determine the atomic number of an element?

Henry Moseley studied the X-ray spectra of several elements and determined their atomic numbers (Z).

He discovered a correlation between atomic number and the frequency of X-rays generated by bombarding an clement with high energy of electrons.

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Uh huh, but if the xray methodology is suspect so should the results be.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Atomic weight is not the same as the atomic number.

a reply to: ArMaP

The "atomic number" refers to the number of protons found in the nucleus of the atom.

Whereas an "atomic weight" is the average mass of the isotopes of an element.