The time has come, the Walrus said, to speak of [Flat Earth] - and other things...

a reply to: igloo

I say its a massive lie because of how NASA and other space agencies have duped people.

Name one .
NVM , as I just realized where this would go ....

I just can't....

My Flat-Earth conspiracy :
There are folks out there that put this stuff out purposely .
They are sitting back laughing their assets off at the sheer number of folks that propagate it afterwards.

Proof the earth is flat.

a reply to: Gothmog

My theories, (1) it is a CIA psyop to discredit CT, (2) FE's just like to argue for it but don't actually believe it and (3) some crazy gullible folk actually fall for it?

a reply to: Degradation33 if you go to Flat earth Dave interviews on YouTube you will find loads of presentations and debates that David Weiss has made over the past few years.
You can then see for yourself what most flat earthers are putting forward.
No one believes it’s a flat disc in space. That’s ridiculous.
Another good YouTube channel is “ Globebusters 24/7 “ which gives you hours of short videos.

I'm thankful that there has been so much engagement with this thread, though it seems that most commenters are sharing disagreements with the premise of the OP overwhelmingly. That's what I expected, but it's a little disappointing. I understand that vast efforts have been undertaken throughout the world which seek to establish the reality of the premise that the Earth is a globe. However, when you really look into the arguments, they are based on the fact that certain astronomical observations can be made from Earth, which if you will note carefully my own response on page one of the thread, I had already explained as being a normal fact of the type of realm we live in. Astronomical observations are possible because we are viewing a highly complex & unusual projection of universal objects in & above the firmament. I already explained that yes, we can view stars & galaxies, measure spectra of light & chemical compositions - but that does NOT mean that ANY of it is accessible to humans, who are most decidedly earthbound. It is not possible to travel beyond the firmament.

That is why we have the faked moon landings in the sixties (which stopped people asking questions for several decades). We then had the ISS fakery, which at first was quite convincing, until repeated observations made it apparent to ANYONE paying attention that the ISS footage is entirely faked, and always has been. Then we had the Felix Baumgartner stunt where he jumped from a balloon, viewed externally from the capsule using a go-pro type lens, which warped the horizon of the Earth to give the appearance of curvature. However, they neglected to use a fish-eye lens on the inside of the capsule, so when the door was opened the perfectly flat horizon was clearly evident. These stunts are used to provide 'evidence' that the Earth's surface is curved, when the truth is that citizen science empirical observation (using helium balloons and standard - NOT - fish-eye lenses) are able to clearly & repeatedly demonstrate the perfectly flat horizon which rises at eye level consistently, even to a hundred thousand feet up.

Did anybody do the maths for the photo I posted on page one of the thread? If there's a certain trigonometrical drop for every mile that extends away from the photographer, how in God's name are the various mountain peaks visible to the photographer at a whole 275 miles distance? The mathematics is fairly straightforward, we're talking a drop of around 9 miles in total. So how is it that we see very clearly that those mountain peaks are standing tall & proud, when they should be way, way under the horizon?

People, when you realise that our astronomical observations are of a projection made to look true from an earthbound observer's perspective, when you realise that stunts have been used to reinforce the notion that we can travel to the heavens, that the earth has a curved horizon.. Media has consistently crammed all of this down your throats for your entire lives, over the past ninety years - you should be able to assiduously discern that your reality has been manipulated. When the empirical observations you make using a simple camera, grossly disagree with the trigonometric formula used to derive the curve of the supposedly spherical Earth over distance, then there is an inescapable conclusion - using those means & others, the perception of all people on Earth has been manipulated to make you think you are living on a globe, when in fact you are not, you are living in a phenomenally complex realm which is ENTIRELY SELF CONTAINED, which is mostly a flat plane extending in all directions, out to an icy waste circumventing the plane, from which a non-newtonian solid/liquid firmament dome extends over the entirety of the plane, permitting observations of features within & beyond that dome, yet NOT permitting travel to the heavenly bodies which are thus observed.

And don't anyone try to convince me that there must be something 'under' the Earth if it is a flat plane. I have just pointed out (and it was implicit in the OP) that we live in a self-contained, hyper-dimensionally constructed 'realm', bounded (to us) beneath by the Earth itself, above by the dome, and the whole of it is some sort of holographic projection of sorts emerging from a singularity - which I suppose must be within the northern polar opening (which has been formerly described by various explorers prior to all agencies being captive to the false narrative, over the past ninety years).

Slow down, and consider what I have said. Consider the metaphysics of what I have said. Consider the textual indications in the scripture which I commented upon. This whole captured agency & false narrative agenda was predicted in the scripture - the masters of Earth knew that the Earth was a deliberately designed, phenomenally complex & entirely self-contained environment, purpose built for the flourishing of nature, and for the development of human civilisation as the head of nature, the leading creature within the environment. They therefore 'knew God' (they understood that God had created the environment) - but they did not acknowledge God, they constructed a false narrative to keep humankind blind to the truth of their situation, and in all their scheming over the years since they became futile & darkened in their thinking. The only way forwards for any of us, is to openly acknowledge the empirical truth before us.

The photographic evidence of the lack of a spherical drop to the horizon, is a literal 'drop the mike' moment. It absolutely undoes every single piece of scheming & disinformation that has been woven to keep your mind captive, blind to the knowledge that our world was designed FOR US, for us as the head of nature, sons & daughters of the God who crafted this world.

The photographic evidence is repeatable, testable, irrefutable. Every other piece of 'evidence' used to spin the counter-narrative (the mainstream belief that the Earth is a sphere) is mere shadow & wind, it has no substance. The astronomical observational evidence is explained by the theory that I have put forward - we are able to view the projections of what is inside & beyond the firmament, we are able to measure spectra & chemical composition - but that is a feature of our environment, intended to show us that there is something beyond our world.

It is a scientific & spiritual invitation: "See, there is more beyond, and it is magnificent. Know your Creator, come look & experience what is beyond". But that invitation is future-oriented. For the present time we must acknowledge that we live in a bounded world, that we are not able to ascend to those Heavens just yet.

And bear in mind the other aspect of the spiritual side of this mystery: There is a Beast, an Enemy, which was supposed to be our beneficient overlord, our tutor & our guide to the mysteries of the Cosmos. But it rebelled, and was cast down, bounded in this world just as we are. We must overcome its influence, if we are to find liberation for our inner spiritual man or woman. It is not permitted to ascend ever again; we ARE permitted to ascend upon the cessation of this phase of our life. We carry on after death, and we move on to wondrous new worlds, beautiful realms unending. But the masters of Earth have covertly sided with the Beast, and intend our downfall, believing in its promises instead of the promises of the Creator.

a reply to: surfer_soul

We live in a hyper-dimensionally constructed, self-contained environment. There is inbuilt distortion to our observational capabilities. There is much that I do not yet understand.

However, the photographic evidence is irrefutable. The mountain peaks visible at 275 miles distant simply should not be visible if we live on a spherical Earth. They should be several miles beneath the horizon. Explain that, and we have our starting point for a discussion regarding the empirical evidence which our eyes & cameras can show us.

a reply to: network dude

You are most certainly NOT permitted to travel to Antarctica in a plane or a boat, because if you try, you will be stopped. By negotiation or by force. They do not want civilians to know what is there. Period. Not a single uninvited civilian has even approached Antarcticaa in the past ninety years. These days, their technologies will highlight your presence within 500 miles, and you will encounter a 'welcome party' who will turn you around, or shoot you out of the skies/sink your boat.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Rotational flight around the centre is indistinguishable from travel around a globe. The fact of a flat planar Earth also describes why ships travelling near to the Antarctic perimeter would get so horribly lost when trying to use conventional navigational reckoning. Even dead reckoning went wrong down there.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

No worries. We have GPS.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

They have a multi-billion dollar annual special effects budget, and are the largest consumer of helium in the entire world. They are also a military agency created around the same moment the Antarctic treaty was created. Their name is NASA, and they are not telling anyone the truth. They never have.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Tell that to the many tourists who have been there:

www.gadventures.com... ZM6uTgBMFOON09GABcVjawUaAkFyEALw_wcB

a reply to: Degradation33

The edge is the Antarctic 'continent'. Captain James Cook in the 18th century once got very, very confused when he tried to sail around it & found that its circumference was something like four times longer than it was supposed to be, and his navigational aids were completely skewed & practically useless for the voyage. Strange.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Authorised. Note what I said. I said uninvited persons were not welcome. That is true. Some are permitted, tightly controlled visits to very specific parts. They are monitored & not permitted to roam free.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Helium?

Do you think all GPS satellites are NASA ones?

a reply to: spaceflyr

Deadly.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Source, evidence, please?

originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
a reply to: Degradation33

The edge is the Antarctic 'continent'. Captain James Cook in the 18th century once got very, very confused when he tried to sail around it & found that its circumference was something like four times longer than it was supposed to be, and his navigational aids were completely skewed & practically useless for the voyage. Strange.

What "navigational aids"?

Source?

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

The same folks pushing the flat earth theory are also pushing global warming theory and an non stolen 2020 election and the need to ban guns. I call BS on anything the government says.