Are extraterrestrials real? As real as the nose on your face.

Originally posted by smallpeeps

The religious wars are the main bumps----and like everything they have to play themselves out---many weak souls will get the opportunity to show what they are truly worth

sleeper, can you expound on this? I am wondering what is meant by "what they are truly worth".

Weak souls are not worth much and they will prove that to themselves by their actions---combat/terrorism brings out the worst and the best in people

Is that your prose or is it an accurate translation of how ET sees Earthlings.

It’s them

Presumably we show our worth by displaying love to other Earthlings?

Yes, if it true and only ET and the person know

How would a Muslim in a religious war prove the worth of his soul? Wouldn't it be by not participating in that war and thereby increasing peace?

Killing for reward real or imagined is a good indication of what a soul is made of

Ancillary to that, I am also curious about your comments regarding "souls on vacation". As I understand, you are saying that some souls on Earth are simply here to enjoy a life of always meeting their goals and having all desires satisfied. They do not have a very difficult time on Earth and are not "in hell" as the majority of souls here.
How can a person know if they are on vacation or if they should involve themselves in a religious war?

Most are not aware consciously but down deep they know

Would ET find more love in the heart of a consciencious objector who went to jail rather than obey the command to fight in such a religious war?

ET knows what is in the hearth and mind of a person----more than the person

Having served in Vietnam, I am sure that you have both sides of this issue in your mind (antiwar versus war as change agent). In your opinion, does the war against communism sometimes take on a religious level of driving force?

The war on communism was an ideology conflict----communism verses democracy, although religion played a part the bigger issue was ideology---on a worldwide scale---Vietnam was the battle ground where a lot of the steam and tension was released between the two super powers, America and the USSR

America lost the war in Vietnam but because of that war the world was spared a nuclear exchange

I never made it into Vietnam

Originally posted by kolo_heights
You dont have to tell, but you could give your 'opinion'

I did give my opinion it will be a positive thing

How does the information make you feel?

Truthfully I’m indifferent because its part of the program and I have known about the program for some time

Were not talking Armageddon, or anti-Christ, or heaven on earth----nothing like that---it’s in line with new technology

Hmmm new technology. Sleeper, is it going to be the kind that makes all the non-tech people go "WOW" or is it just a better way of doing something?

Access Denied, do you know anything about bismuth in relation to gravity modification?

If sleeper hadn't specified that this event on the 25th would sprout from the United States, I would've guessed that this is what he referred to (providing that the story in the link is true of course). Besides that story I haven't really seen anying else noteworthy in the news, aside from the violence in East Timor.

DELETED, I HAD SECRET INFO HERE ABOUT SLEEPER'S TACTICS, BUT DARN I DELETED IT

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Originally posted by Unrealbutreal
HEY SLEEPER

WHAT DID YOU MEAN YOU PREFER THE SMALL CRAFT?

WHAT SIZE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SINCE THEIR ARE MANY.

Thirty or forty feet in diameter

WHAT DOES THE CRAFT LOOK LIKE AGAIN?

Sleeper your absalutly hilarious, ignoring me, means I am somehow a threat to your fantasy world.. your are WEIRD

It’s round, has a corridor on the perimeter with windows every two feet, and several rooms in the interior, massage room, billiard room and some really weird and strange rooms used for mind expansion

Really what colour is it, do Aliens exrete? what is your IQ, why are YOUR aliens not informining me, I had the usual dreams of being upducted,

NOTE THERE ARE DREAMS, everyone get's on the badwagon that oh i have been upducted by the Aliens, two mins later they wake up in bed convincing themselves like YOU that there are grays...

LOL my god, this is probably the most gullable blog there is...... I know what kind of people Sleeper is attracting, (ALIENS OR NO ALIENS) FUNNY HEH.

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Originally posted by Access Denied

Originally posted by kolo_heights
At the very least Sleeper is providing his experience, which although cant be proved or disproved, he raises some interesting points and intriguing outlooks on not just ET but our lives aswell.

True... but so far he hasn't said anything that hasn't been said before one way or another... I've been told all he has done here is to weave a bunch of low level spiritual concepts and his alleged history of ET abduction/contact into a form suitable for mass consumption and delivered it through interactive/selective Q&A... which in itself is intriguing by virtue of it's apparent ability to sustain itself indefinitely by feeding off a highly suggestive captive audience starved for answers they'll never get... unless they've done their homework ;-)

I've been following this thread for a while now (much to my wife's dismay I might add... yep, made her read the whole damn thing too) and finally decided to ask some questions of my own... as I would encourage any independent researchers out there who may still be on the fence do for themselves as well.

I won't say what I've learned from my little experiment (obviously not getting any response to my second set of questions is interesting) but I will say I'm pretty sure I know where sleeper is coming from now... however feel free to draw your own conclusions :-)

P.S. In case anybody was wondering about my "life long experience with the military" comment I'm a prior service (ex-military) government contractor working in a military R&D laboratory.

I understand your gripes. Sleeper is presenting an almost spiritual hotline for people starved of answers. So far he has not been prepared to reveal any highly-detailed concepts or information.

Is this a weakness? Perhaps. But as mentioned before just because he cant be proved or disproved doesnt mean he should be ignored. What he offers is intriguing, and though holding back key information in a sense weakens his experience for others, it indirectly strengthens his argument.

Everyone will have there own thoughts and feelings towards this. Personally I'm holding out for Sleeper to unveil some form of concrete proof, but until then I enjoy discussing what he presents, as after all, this is a discussion forum.

Every argument or experience can be disected and anaylised and exposed of weaknesses. People demand photogenic evidence but this of all proof can be the most contraversial.

Denying Ignorance isnt always about challenging those who share their thoughts.

Im interested in where you think Sleeper is coming from, care to explain?

Originally posted by mind is the universe
I know what kind of people Sleeper is attracting, (ALIENS OR NO ALIENS) FUNNY HEH.

You pretend to know a lot but actually offer very little.

You present your experiences and argument as if a 13-year old thug had sabotaged your keyboard

What kind of people is Sleeper attracting?

Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by kolo_heights
Why are you not prepared to release this information? What possible drawbacks can there be from telling a few members on a message board what you percieve.? It's hardly the recognised global truth you are fortelling.

I haven’t been given the clearance to tell---not even to one person

Sleeper when I talked to you previously you mentioned that there is a chance that this source may be within low-level media, but now your suggesting you need clearence to tell?

What is your purpose on this discussion forum, to help members deny ignorance or to stoke the fires of cover-ups and secrets?

By all accounts I enjoy what you offer, but Im beginning to believe you are the one in need of realisation not us.

Why am I on this thread? Because I enjoy all the insults by people who believe themselves smart

They have dug down deep into their endless bag of wisdom and proclaimed with absolute profundity that sleeper is wrong because they say so----

So far that has been the best argument against me---

Originally posted by sleeper
Why am I on this thread? Because I enjoy all the insults by people who believe themselves smart

They have dug down deep into their endless bag of wisdom and proclaimed with absolute profundity that sleeper is wrong because they say so----

So far that has been the best argument against me---

Lest we forget......sleeper says "ET" has a billiard room in the craft.

The insult is the smug attitude with which you dish out your dislike for humanity, human intelligence, human fortitude, human ingenuity, etc. The major theme of this thread is the apparent uselessness of the human species. And its incredibly sad that so many people seem to have such low self-esteem that they buy into it! "Yes sleeper, we have no control, we are ignorant, we have no clue......"

Spare me. You're no different than a child blaming the broken crockery on an imaginary friend.

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Originally posted by Unrealbutreal
UFOs are real and they are flown by Extra-/terrestrials.

They only like to speak with higher intelligent humans it is possible to contact and communicate with them.

The Internet has been flooded with truthful information with made up stories but it is real for the real people.

The B.S. is all this paranoia crap that is spewed as reiterated rhetoric of the occult crazies.

Now i am going to be as thick as you can get....


My maths IQ is rightly fooked......

Did they contact einstein? nope... rubbish talk out of you


Do you know what it means to be highly intellegent??

Do you know every intellegent person in the cosmos,? no

Are you intellegent, sorry to say, I'm afraid not,


I like to say i'm intellegent, but I'm not smart at everything to bad for your theory and your Aliens.................

Originally posted by MrPenny

Originally posted by sleeper
Why am I on this thread? Because I enjoy all the insults by people who believe themselves smart

They have dug down deep into their endless bag of wisdom and proclaimed with absolute profundity that sleeper is wrong because they say so----

So far that has been the best argument against me---

Lest we forget......sleeper says "ET" has a billiard room in the craft.

The insult is the smug attitude with which you dish out your dislike for humanity, human intelligence, human fortitude, human ingenuity, etc. The major theme of this thread is the apparent uselessness of the human species. And its incredibly sad that so many people seem to have such low self-esteem that they buy into it! "Yes sleeper, we have no control, we are ignorant, we have no clue......"

Spare me. You're no different than a child blaming the broken crockery on an imaginary friend.

I totally agree with you on this, Sleeper comes across as arrogant.

It's not just what he #es on about, it how he phrases it,

Sleeper i know far to many people who are smarter than you.


If E.T was to create humans, what is intellegence nothing, it's a total insult TO HUMANITY if it were the case of ET they would not give you this power, I firmly believe your fooled by your own subconcious,


I believe that there is life out there btw, but you have racing subconcious filtered from information YOU HAVE HEARD, SPIRITUAL BELIEFS AND YOU CULT BELIEF IN ALIENS..

HAS TURNED INTO SCRAMBLED EGG... You are so foolish,


someone is smart does not say he/ or she is so smart.. just think about it

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Sleeper if i go though life trying to do the right thing, being a good husband and father, emphasis on trying, not stilling or killing anything like that do i get bumped up a level so to speak or do i have to worship some higher power.

It’s round, has a corridor on the perimeter with windows every two feet, and several rooms in the interior, massage room, billiard room and some really weird and strange rooms used for mind expansion

Is it me or does the above detail that sleeper gave us seem a bit too much?
I mean Alien Spacecraft with Billiard Room and Massage Room?

Sleeper I think you lost even more credibilty with that bit of info.



Toogood

Originally posted by skitzo
Sleeper if i go though life trying to do the right thing, being a good husband and father, emphasis on trying, not stilling or killing anything like that do i get bumped up a level so to speak or do i have to worship some higher power.

You don't have to worship anything or anyone to move up----if you think you are on the right track then most likely you are

Originally posted by XL5
Hmmm new technology. Sleeper, is it going to be the kind that makes all the non-tech people go "WOW" or is it just a better way of doing something?

Access Denied, do you know anything about bismuth in relation to gravity modification?

There is a "WOW" factor

Oh the sleepermites are jealous because not only do I get to ride in a ship from out of this solar system but ET also furnished it with a billiard table just for me

What can I say---

Originally posted by sleeper
Oh the sleepermites are jealous because not only do I get to ride in a ship from out of this solar system but ET also furnished it with a billiard table just for me

What can I say---

Yeah thats it!! We are jealous because we don't get to ride in spacehips with billiard rooms and massage parlors. Give me a break.

I personally think that all this talk is just in your head sleeper. Its to a point were you have started to believe it actually happens, but in reality it does not. No hard feelings.

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