Baier asks Trump: In your mind did the Covid vaccine work?

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: EternalShadow

Not only did you indeed passively aggressively call me naive, you also talked about 'your humiliation' as well. Which I didn't mention, but will now that you cant handle being called out on your insult(s).

If you found it insulting, so what, grow some skin. It's called constructive criticism.

And you singled yourself out after I specified you're not the only one.🤷🏻

originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: EternalShadow

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: EternalShadow

If you can't understand the difference between personal choice, available options, risk analysis and FREEDOM and Biden's authoritative orders for everyone regardless of age, risk, religion then I cannot help you.

Naive? OK.

Didn't ask for your help. I see no difference in outcomes, but apparently you're not done being fooled.🤷🏻

I said, "the naive" not "you're naive", but whatever.

"No difference in outcomes"? People that were forced to be vaxxed and are now permanently damaged, or dead, would disagree.

I was speaking of the OVERALL agenda.

originally posted by: EternalShadow

originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: EternalShadow

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: EternalShadow

If you can't understand the difference between personal choice, available options, risk analysis and FREEDOM and Biden's authoritative orders for everyone regardless of age, risk, religion then I cannot help you.

Naive? OK.

Didn't ask for your help. I see no difference in outcomes, but apparently you're not done being fooled.🤷🏻

I said, "the naive" not "you're naive", but whatever.

"No difference in outcomes"? People that were forced to be vaxxed and are now permanently damaged, or dead, would disagree.

I was speaking of the OVERALL agenda.

What's that?

The killing of people? Do you believe the Trump Administration was deliberately trying to kill people by expediting the vax approval processes?

Edited, after reading your prior posts in the thread.

You know, Trump isn't a scientist
Heat a business man. He believed the eejits. I don't hold that against him.
I hate it, I hated him for it for a while.
But not everyone is a master of all traits.

originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: EternalShadow

originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: EternalShadow

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: EternalShadow

If you can't understand the difference between personal choice, available options, risk analysis and FREEDOM and Biden's authoritative orders for everyone regardless of age, risk, religion then I cannot help you.

Naive? OK.

Didn't ask for your help. I see no difference in outcomes, but apparently you're not done being fooled.🤷🏻

I said, "the naive" not "you're naive", but whatever.

"No difference in outcomes"? People that were forced to be vaxxed and are now permanently damaged, or dead, would disagree.

I was speaking of the OVERALL agenda.

What's that?

The killing of people? Do you believe the Trump Administration was deliberately trying to kill people by expediting the vax approval processes?

Edited, after reading your prior posts in the thread.

Considering the content of Trump's administration, especially the saboteurs, YES. The plan was in place long before Trump.

ETA: What exactly hasn't been shown to you up to this point that it's NOT a same sided coin situation? Whatever that is it worked on you and you're still loyal to the brand.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: checkers101

I believe it was the CDC and NIH that deployed the vaccine. Not sure how you are thinking DoD was involved?

I believe he absolutely DID recognize the danger when he banned flights from China, that he was promptly called racist for doing and Pelosi inviting everyone to come to Chinatown for celebrations!

He didn't ban flights from China early on. Instead he banned flights from Muslim countries first and this is the howl and the court cases you're thinking of.

You may be thinking of the Obama pandemic plan (which Trump scrapped when he took office) that would have actually banned travel from China much earlier than Trump did.

His China bans were very leaky, as he banned travel from only part of China

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: checkers101

When Trump announced the vaccines, the left refused to take it.

Not correct. My husband and I were in the automobile lines to get the vaccine as soon as we qualified (02/21/2021, and Moderna) I volunteered at the vaccine site, too.

In case you forgot, it was Trump talking about how it's a "little flu" and it'd go away soon (you can search for references; he said this multiple times and Trump supporters like Herman Cain repeated the message. Anti-vaxxers (who are seldom liberal) hopped on it.

Meanwhile, the Democrats here were in full swing to get everyone vaccinated. Since the vaccines were first offered, no one on my Facebook friends list (about 1,000 people and all but four or five are vaccinated) has died. Only a handful caught Covid (yes, my possee also masks as well as does vaccines) and of those who got it after vaccinations, nobody died.

When Biden became president, the left MANDATED that everyone take it.

Reminder: There were few mandates (military was one indeed, but military gets vaccines for everything) and some federal workers as well as specialty cases like transplants, but there were no blanket mandates. list here

a reply to: EternalShadow

It was not constructive, and the phrase where you said you weren't singling me out is just more evidence of a passive aggressive gaslight. Cowgirl up and own it!~

a reply to: Byrd

The ban on some Muslim countries on the terrorist sponsor list had nothing to do with COVID.

He didn't scrap the Obama planned, he reassigned the team that developed up after it was finished. Were they supposed to just twiddle thumbs feet on desk waiting for an outbreak?

And no, I specifically remember the uproar over the China ban. Pelosi screamed her bloody head off at his racism. I'd find the videos, but you can yourself, it's EASY.

Yes, it was a partial ban, he let Americans back in.

a reply to: Byrd

Yep, I got the vaccine early on.

I know of three people who died of COVID-19. A very good friend of ours dad who was very very overweight and died before the vaccine was even available. My husband’s father’s good friend. She did not get the vaccine most likely due to her being a Republican and opposed. The third person is my sister’s husband’s stepbrother who was not vaccinated and was under 50.

I’m so tired of the narrative that it was mandated. It was not, that is a lie. Why the lie? Of course, the military mandated it, just like all the other vaccines are mandated. Don’t like it, don’t join up, simple as that. If your company mandated it to keep people safe and you don’t like it, you can quit, simple as that.

Regarding the video of trump, it’s hilarious, he wants to tout the vaccine’s success so bad he can’t stand it, but he has a rabid base who thrive on misinformation, so he can’t.

I am curious as to what would have occurred if Trump won the election and therefore was not just in a spin of election fraud for months and remained in office. Knowing Mr. Trump as we all do, when the vaccine would have become available and he would be constantly praising himself for making it (heck probably claim he helped develop it too) available, if many of those now against it, would have of course gotten it, because well Trump who as many claim "is the only one who can save us" praised it and advised to get it.

Not all would of course, but there is quite a segment who just parrots and listens to whatever he says. I also wonder if they would have turned against him or just no longer attribute every single thing to he vaccination.

a reply to: Byrd

True, Biden couldn't mandate it, but hospitals sure toed the line and started mandating it.

I wonder what forces were used to apply such mandates since I work in hospital settings and most were adamantly against the mandates.

a reply to: Byrd

Oh, and your VP and President were even on record saying they wouldn't take "Trump's" vaccine.

originally posted by: frogs453
I am curious as to what would have occurred if Trump won the election and therefore was not just in a spin of election fraud for months and remained in office. Knowing Mr. Trump as we all do, when the vaccine would have become available and he would be constantly praising himself for making it (heck probably claim he helped develop it too) available, if many of those now against it, would have of course gotten it, because well Trump who as many claim "is the only one who can save us" praised it and advised to get it.

Not all would of course, but there is quite a segment who just parrots and listens to whatever he says. I also wonder if they would have turned against him or just no longer attribute every single thing to he vaccination.

As one of the Trump supporters I was critical of Trump and his efforts concerning vaccines.

But I'm sure you got your boosters.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I did say that not all would, but that there is a segment who blindly believes everything he says. What do I have to do with anything? It was a question I pondered. I didn't say whether it's right or wrong.

You truly love to take a dig at me in every reply. Hope it makes you feel better about yourself.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: DBCowboy

I did say that not all would, but that there is a segment who blindly believes everything he says. What do I have to do with anything? It was a question I pondered. I didn't say whether it's right or wrong.

You truly love to take a dig at me in every reply. Hope it makes you feel better about yourself.

Nah, just bitter I guess about this whole covid bs.

Too many people called me a granny-killer because I was critical of federal, state and local government actions on all this.

As a medical professional it was irritating.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: EternalShadow

It was not constructive, and the phrase where you said you weren't singling me out is just more evidence of a passive aggressive gaslight. Cowgirl up and own it!~

No, actually I meant that about not singling you out because you're definitely NOT the only one who's a sucker for punishment/disappointment. If you decided to take what I said and wear it around your neck, that's on you.

a reply to: DBCowboy

This right here.

a reply to: checkers101

He doesn't exhibit any kind of compassion or empathy for the victims of his bioweapon.

The 'empathy' politicians show for the American people is all artificial.

Research has proven the vaccinated are three to five times more likely to get covid, and the more 'boosted' they are the mor likely they'll get covid repeatedly. What stands out is how few politicians got covid, leaving some to wonder if they even got the vaccine.
Congress exempted themselves from the mandates; did the rest get placebos, as some in the general population did?

It's known that different vaccine strengths were administered to the general population, making it obvious we were a replacement for lab rats. I wonder how many people will remember that when they roll out the next 'pandemic' in a year or two. They can now just skip the rat and monkey trials and jump straight to experimenting on sheeple.

I worked in manufacturing medical supplies at the time. I failed many COVID tests and they'd redirect me to "custom" tests so I could pass and continue working. COVID exists, and how they treated the ordeal was a scam. My COVID germs live in your needles, syringes and packaging lol. Not by my choice. The COVID crisis was placed upon us to see how passive we'd be. It worked. The games are on.

When it comes to Trump, he's an actor. He'll say or not say anything to continue along, and I don't blame him for it.