Drag shows and transgendered.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: Xtrozero

Sure pedophilia is an issue, doesn't stop them from going to church either.
It's not about adults using kids to satisfy their needs, that always happens behind closed doors and most cases are domestic. It's a straw man argument.

it's about kids exploring their own sexuality, without shame or hush-hush, that includes adults talking about theirs without shame and hush-hush.
I guess that is not so simple if one has been indoctrinated to the contrary.

Education and open discourse is the best detriment against sexual violence, sex ed on minors always includes inappropriate behaviors by adults towards them.
I see only one reason someone doesn't want them to learn about such things...

"kids"
"exploring"
"sexuality"

If you are under 10 years old, there is no place in this entire world where you should be exploring sexuality except your own home with your parents supervision and blessing.

Desantis laid all of this out in his parent protection act.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Terpene

Lets keep it simple.

why do children hide to 'play doctor'?

From day one, my son grabbed his penis. every time his diaper was off. was probably grabbing it in the womb!

so what does mom do?

Grabs the little hand and locks his little pleasure button behind a diaper.

Not long until the little tikes are getting potty trained. Mom and all the other people go in these little rooms and hide to do their business.

By the time children are one they pretty much have been taught that private functions happen in your private areas in hiding and all that repression.

what do you suggest we do differently so that we don't repress people?

freedom is not slavery, war is not peace, modesty is not repression

originally posted by: SigmaXSquared

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: Xtrozero

Sure pedophilia is an issue, doesn't stop them from going to church either.
It's not about adults using kids to satisfy their needs, that always happens behind closed doors and most cases are domestic. It's a straw man argument.

it's about kids exploring their own sexuality, without shame or hush-hush, that includes adults talking about theirs without shame and hush-hush.
I guess that is not so simple if one has been indoctrinated to the contrary.

Education and open discourse is the best detriment against sexual violence, sex ed on minors always includes inappropriate behaviors by adults towards them.
I see only one reason someone doesn't want them to learn about such things...

"kids"
"exploring"
"sexuality"

If you are under 10 years old, there is no place in this entire world where you should be exploring sexuality except your own home with your parents supervision and blessing.

Desantis laid all of this out in his parent protection act.

"exploring sexuality except your own home with your parents supervision and blessing."

Want to rephrase that?
As a parent, I would never watch my kids explore their sexuality.

Certainly we can talk about it, have conversations and the like. But I'm not supervising.

a reply to: randomtangentsrme

No. you clearly understand my intent.

a reply to: SigmaXSquared

I clearly do not, as from how you phrased it you want to watch your kids explore their sexuality.
I gave you opportunity to correct your wording. You declined.
Noted.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Is it really needed...

Do pedophiles wait till they had sex ed?
Do pedophiles prefer kids that are ashamed to talk about sexuality?
When is it too soon to protect them from pedophiles?

There is nothing wrong to talk about masturbation even from personal experience in a sex ed setting.

Pretty much the point of it, being able to talk about sexual experiences outside the domestic privacy. Anyone that researchd the topic knows full well that's where the bulk of the pedo crimes happen.
But you know there are good sexual experiences too, not talking about pedostuff mind you.
it's easier to approach the open discourse from the positive side rather than from the negative, especially for kids.

The skillet acquired helps to be able to identify and talk about negative ones more openly too, which is the best detriment against pedophiles.

Also pretty sure they were gender separate clases and she didn't give a live instruction on how she gets her fastest orgasm.

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
a reply to: SigmaXSquared

I clearly do not, as from how you phrased it you want to watch your kids explore their sexuality.
I gave you opportunity to correct your wording. You declined.
Noted.

You are being disingenuous and playing me for a fool.

No need to reply, because I wont answer

a reply to: SigmaXSquared

I bet you'd do great speeches for politicians... Do them for both side and appart from learning a valuable lesson you'll make double the buck.

originally posted by: Terpene

Is it really needed...

Do pedophiles wait till they had sex ed?
Do pedophiles prefer kids that are ashamed to talk about sexuality?
When is it too soon to protect them from pedophiles?

We call it stranger danger, not trans/drag reading hour. How do you define a ped to a 6-year-old other than strangers should not be trusted, and all that can be done without sexualization or the kid having some deep understanding of what a ped is all about.

A pedophile is a person who seeks sexualization from children well under puberty. Legally it is below 12 or below puberty which comes first. What this means is some creep going after a 14-year-old is a sexual deviant but not a ped.

I'm explaining this because of your statement here "Do pedophiles prefer kids that are ashamed to talk about sexuality"

Peds prefer kid presexuality, so your point here is moot.

a reply to: Xtrozero

So presexualy kid shouldn't learn to talk about all the sexual deviances pedophiles can come in because they are presexual, and that's what pedophiles are attracted to?
Is that the gist of it?

Usually when somone goes trough the effort to actually type out a declaration about the mootness of my point, instead of making theirs, it's because I have one and they don't....

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: Vroomfondel

I guess, the reson is the same why kids are draged to church. some people just like to indoctrinate the vulnerable. The diffrence is the ideology being pushed.

An inclusive one where sexuality is not a sin.

those that grew up being indoctrinated by one that is intolerant and very restrictive about sexuality obviously have a problem with that...

I think it's the shame associated trough indoctrination that destroys innocence not sexuality by itself.

It's a big common denominator amongst all religions, sex is bad. My conspiracy mind tells me that when all media tell the same, it's a lie.

I see your point of indoctrinating kids with stupid ideologies not based in reality!

I'm not fully on board of applying the same techniques to break old programming, but the old has to go and it all starts down there....

The control grid is very old, and very etheric

That is not a very good analogy.

"Where sexuality is not a sin?" And if that sexuality includes predator pedophilia? Grooming? Hiding itself from parents? Letting a 5 year old make life altering decisions no reasonable adult would ever let them make? Sorry, introducing a child to a faith based religion and victimizing youth are two very different things.

Religion, especially the Catholic religion, does not say sex is bad. In fact, it encourages it. "Go forth and multiply." Wrong answer on that one. Sex is not bad. Promiscuity is bad. Pedophilia is bad. Sodomy is bad. Sex is just fine as long as it is done between two consenting adults, mainly with proper intent.

a reply to: Terpene

You're attitude toward children and sex is disturbing to say the least. I have 3 kids, at no point when they were 5 did they talk about sex.
A 5 year old doesn't care how you get your jollies as an adult and explaining it to them is perverted bordering on criminal.

By the way, yes it is my opinion. Anyone who thinks it's ok is a pedophile.

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: Terpene

You're attitude toward children and sex is disturbing to say the least. I have 3 kids, at no point when they were 5 did they talk about sex.
A 5 year old doesn't care how you get your jollies as an adult and explaining it to them is perverted bordering on criminal.

By the way, yes it is my opinion. Anyone who thinks it's ok is a pedophile.

My kids were interested in where children came from an early age. My 4 year asked about it yesterday.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: Xtrozero
Do pedophiles wait till they had sex ed?
Do pedophiles prefer kids that are ashamed to talk about sexuality?

Pedophiles want to be the ones educating kids.

Pedophiles want the kids to keep it hidden from parents.

Pedophiles want to be there to guide kids in confusing times.

Pedophiles go after kids because of their innocence and non judgmental mindsets.

Groom them under the guise of tolerance and acceptance (age is just a number).

All things I've observed from countless pedophiles being caught and interviewed online.

Checks all the boxes of this LGBTQ stuff in the education system.

I'm all for tolerance and live and let live, but...

Leave the kids alone.

a reply to: DAVID64

Tell me about that traumatic event when you first caught your parents doing it. Or were they of the poor souls that couldn't anymore, because the sexual repression is couple of generations old and their childhood trauma is affecting their adult sexual life, very comon psychological occurrence. when they do get caught red handed their reaction is mostly the same, and just as traumatic, which will pass it to their kids...

Actually I think the root of some alleged genetic disease are due to psychosomatics but that's for another thread...

a reply to: randomtangentsrme

.....and ?

Did you explain ? Is a 4 year old smart enough to actually understand the biological process of pro creation ?

I'm reminded of the book, Brave New World. If I recall, there is a whole school system where the kids run around the playground sexually exploring and playing with each other, while the adults carried on everyday conversations while watching.

a reply to: Terpene

lmao. You're trying to psycho analyze a stranger on the internet.

That's cute.

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

.....and ?

Did you explain ? Is a 4 year old smart enough to actually understand the biological process of pro creation ?

I passed it off to my wife.

a reply to: DAVID64

Live has the funny side effect of being a great psychoanalyst, never stop watching for clues.

Me personally i look for triggers, as they're the hardest and most rewarding to adress on a self-reflection quest....

I like cats too