Brilliant plan by Ramaswamy, everyone promise to pardon Trump

Here is a powerful strategy to utilize.

It is now Joe Biden's turn to explain why he stole and hoarded classified documents for over 12 years.

What didhe use them for when they were in his possession all that time?

All GOP candidates need to ask this question at every rally... And every time they are in front of reporters.

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: network dude

I would think that would just encourage even more 'never Trumper's' to get out and vote.

They're all voting early by mail in ballot anyways....

originally posted by: CrawlingChaos

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: network dude

I would think that would just encourage even more 'never Trumper's' to get out and vote.

They're all voting early by mail in ballot anyways....

Early mail-in voting is the death knoll for our voting system.

I have no doubt that today's technology would allow for programs that would corelate to death notices, citizen status, out-of-state moves and many of the other areas that allow for votes to be counted that weren't legally cast, but for whatever reason nobody wants to consider securing the voter rolls.

I really, really miss the good old days when hand counting the votes usually told us by evening who the winner was; instead, we have days and weeks while computers grind away and we're left in limbo.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

Every post in this thread seems to involve kiddie fiddling. I suggest you find a way to get that off your mind and out of a thread about Trump's indictments. perhaps you could make your own thread about kids and junk.

Of course you would want to ignore these criminals. Why might that be...?


However, there does seem to be some validity in Issues of Trump's fairly public predilections, which you are sweeping under the rug.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: Salamandy

So inheriting over $100 million in his 20’s isn’t what made him rich?

How do you figure?

He was a billionaire, that's what a good businessman can do with $100 million. We see athletes piss away millions and are broke within a few years because they're too stupid to manage money.

According to a New York Times expose from 2018, Trump actually inherited more than a billion dollars (in 2018 equivalent money).

Mary Trump book: How she leaked Trump financials to NYT

If you track Donald Trump's publicly released projects, investments, and returns, then it is clear that he was a fairly average businessman, more often than not taking a loss on what should have been profitable investments.

This however, could have been for tax minimization as it was revealed that in 2003 the Trump family undervalued many of their assets as exemplified in the sale of the inherited apartment buildings for about 16 times their previously declared worth.

Trump's current net worth has been estimated at 2.4 billion, so if he inherited 1 billion, he has only grown the company by 1.4 billion over the last 24 years. Compare that to other American companies growth over 24 years and it's nothing spectacular.

hahaha. well played. The Voting Dead has that ring to it. loloa reply to: nugget1

a reply to: chr0naut

is 100 million the same as a Billion?

1,000,000,000.00 -Billion
100,000,000.00 -One Hundred Million

Nope, they appear to be different numbers with different values. You don't maths well.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

Every post in this thread seems to involve kiddie fiddling. I suggest you find a way to get that off your mind and out of a thread about Trump's indictments. perhaps you could make your own thread about kids and junk.

Of course you would want to ignore these criminals. Why might that be...?


However, there does seem to be some validity in Issues of Trump's fairly public predilections, which you are sweeping under the rug.

Again with the pedo stuff. You may want to take an inward look, and figure out why this topic is such a common one with you.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

is 100 million the same as a Billion?

1,000,000,000.00 -Billion
100,000,000.00 -One Hundred Million

Nope, they appear to be different numbers with different values. You don't maths well.

From Wikipedia: "As revealed by the 2018 New York Times exposé, Trump and his wife, Mary Anne MacLeod Trump, provided over $1 billion (in 2018 currency) to their progeny overall". (1st sentence in 4th paragraph of this Wikipedia page).

- Their words, not mine.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

Every post in this thread seems to involve kiddie fiddling. I suggest you find a way to get that off your mind and out of a thread about Trump's indictments. perhaps you could make your own thread about kids and junk.

Of course you would want to ignore these criminals. Why might that be...?

However, there does seem to be some validity in Issues of Trump's fairly public predilections, which you are sweeping under the rug.

Again with the pedo stuff. You may want to take an inward look, and figure out why this topic is such a common one with you.

You didn't read my posts. I was questioning the right-wing use of unfounded conspiracies that allege pedophilia in their political opponents.

I wanted to only stick to the established facts and not speculative allegations (as this guy does).

Clearly, your attempt to imply that I have improper motivations shows that you neither understand what I actually said, but also that you think it is fair to falsely defame others. People who do this are morally and ethically in the wrong. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

a reply to: chr0naut

if every post you make in a thread is off topic and about pedo topics, it's difficult not to wonder why you are fixated on that one topic. Again, look in the mirror, then look elsewhere.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

is 100 million the same as a Billion?

1,000,000,000.00 -Billion
100,000,000.00 -One Hundred Million

Nope, they appear to be different numbers with different values. You don't maths well.

From Wikipedia: "As revealed by the 2018 New York Times exposé, Trump and his wife, Mary Anne MacLeod Trump, provided over $1 billion (in 2018 currency) to their progeny overall". (1st sentence in 4th paragraph of this Wikipedia page).

- Their words, not mine.

then what is 2.5 billion in 2018 dollars? Or do you think it only goes one way?

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

if every post you make in a thread is off topic and about pedo topics, it's difficult not to wonder why you are fixated on that one topic. Again, look in the mirror, then look elsewhere.

I have made several posts in this thread that have had other topic points. You have even replied to them.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

is 100 million the same as a Billion?

1,000,000,000.00 -Billion
100,000,000.00 -One Hundred Million

Nope, they appear to be different numbers with different values. You don't maths well.

From Wikipedia: "As revealed by the 2018 New York Times exposé, Trump and his wife, Mary Anne MacLeod Trump, provided over $1 billion (in 2018 currency) to their progeny overall". (1st sentence in 4th paragraph of this Wikipedia page).

- Their words, not mine.

then what is 2.5 billion in 2018 dollars? Or do you think it only goes one way?

The quote said $1 billion, not $2.5 billion.

$1b in 2018 would have inflated to $1.21b in 2023 dollars. US Inflation Calculator

The May 2023 Forbes valuation of Trump's net worth at $2.4b was in 2023 dollars. Donald Trump's net worth in 2023: How much money does the former president really have?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: network dude

They could do that with convicted pedophiles too. That would really make them stand out from the crowd. Instant notoriety!

Also, shouldn't someone wait until they can see if their polling improves, before claiming that it has?

Nah, Biden wasn't in office when Epstein got jailed so they had him killed so he wouldn't talk about Clinton and Obama visiting the island.

I seem to recall that Trump also was on the flight manifests of Epstein's private jets.

Maxwell case logs show how frequently Trump flew on Epstein jets; Bill Clinton, too.

Yeah, funny how the MAGAoids fail to mention that Trump flew on Epstein's plane, and lie about Obama having done so. Also they fail to mention that Trump appointed Alex Acosta, the US Attorney who made the sweetheart plea deal for Epstein before he was brought up on even more sex trafficking charges. It's as if the MAGA crowd are either incredibly ignorant or willfully don't bring up unsavory facts about their cult leader. Which is it, Trump cultists? I'm dying to hear.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

if every post you make in a thread is off topic and about pedo topics, it's difficult not to wonder why you are fixated on that one topic. Again, look in the mirror, then look elsewhere.

I have made several posts in this thread that have had other topic points. You have even replied to them.

it must be dificult to be honest with yourself knowing how scummy this topic is, but that inward look really needs to happen. Here is a link to all the pedo posts you have made in this one thread, which has not a #ing thing to do with pedos, but about a GOP contender wanting to pardon Trump is he's elected.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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get some help.

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: network dude

They could do that with convicted pedophiles too. That would really make them stand out from the crowd. Instant notoriety!

Also, shouldn't someone wait until they can see if their polling improves, before claiming that it has?

Nah, Biden wasn't in office when Epstein got jailed so they had him killed so he wouldn't talk about Clinton and Obama visiting the island.

I seem to recall that Trump also was on the flight manifests of Epstein's private jets.

Maxwell case logs show how frequently Trump flew on Epstein jets; Bill Clinton, too.

Yeah, funny how the MAGAoids fail to mention that Trump flew on Epstein's plane, and lie about Obama having done so. Also they fail to mention that Trump appointed Alex Acosta, the US Attorney who made the sweetheart plea deal for Epstein before he was brought up on even more sex trafficking charges. It's as if the MAGA crowd are either incredibly ignorant or willfully don't bring up unsavory facts about their cult leader. Which is it, Trump cultists? I'm dying to hear.

why do you feel the need to call those superior to you names? Just that insecure? Tired of loosing? Tired of being a looser? There must be a reason. I suppose when your political ideology has you forced to defend a crook, it can mess with your head. I mean, look at the KIWI, he's obsessed with kiddie fiddling, and you can't speak TO anyone, only AT them. I actually feel a bit sorry for you.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: network dude

They could do that with convicted pedophiles too. That would really make them stand out from the crowd. Instant notoriety!

Also, shouldn't someone wait until they can see if their polling improves, before claiming that it has?

Nah, Biden wasn't in office when Epstein got jailed so they had him killed so he wouldn't talk about Clinton and Obama visiting the island.

I seem to recall that Trump also was on the flight manifests of Epstein's private jets.

Maxwell case logs show how frequently Trump flew on Epstein jets; Bill Clinton, too.

Yeah, funny how the MAGAoids fail to mention that Trump flew on Epstein's plane, and lie about Obama having done so. Also they fail to mention that Trump appointed Alex Acosta, the US Attorney who made the sweetheart plea deal for Epstein before he was brought up on even more sex trafficking charges. It's as if the MAGA crowd are either incredibly ignorant or willfully don't bring up unsavory facts about their cult leader. Which is it, Trump cultists? I'm dying to hear.

why do you feel the need to call those superior to you names? Just that insecure? Tired of loosing? Tired of being a looser? There must be a reason. I suppose when your political ideology has you forced to defend a crook, it can mess with your head. I mean, look at the KIWI, he's obsessed with kiddie fiddling, and you can't speak TO anyone, only AT them. I actually feel a bit sorry for you.

Why can't you address the substance of posts you disagree with?

There are members from your side of the evil who call us who disagree with you folks, "evil", "pedo-defenders", "unpatriotic", "stupid" and "traitorous", "haters", "sock puppets", "suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome" ("TDS" is used), "marxists", "communinists", "libtards", among other things. I've been sworn at multiple times -- sure, they use acronyms, but it is clear what they are writing. Yet you don't criticize them. And I never bother to criticize people who call us these names. What's the point? But that is the only thing you bring up from my post, clearly because you have no valid refutation of what else I wrote in it.

So I used the term "ignorant". How else would you describe people who claim Obama flew on Epstein's plane (when there is no evidence of his having done so), and fail to mention that Trump did so multiple times, and that he appointed as Labor Secretary the guy who gave Epstein a sweetheart plea deal? And for that matter, I used it in a subjunctive clause; I didn't say anyone or any group was necessarily that; I said it is "as if" these people were that or intentionally don't acknowledge uncomfortable facts about their political hero. I take that to mean that you accept that supposition as being the case.

I also used "MAGAoid", which is not nearly as bad as "libtard" (and yes, I just did a search, and found over two pages worth of posts with this word in them), but if that offends you and others, I'll happily refrain from using it in the future.

And then there is the cognitive dissonance in your post, falsely claiming that my political ideology forces me to defend a crook, when it is you Trump defenders who are guilty of that to the extreme. All I say as regards Biden is that the evidence against him is not compelling enough yet to make that accusation, but I welcome further investigation of the matter. That's not how you folk talk about Trump. His supporters here write that the is the target of pure hate and an evil government, and that he is actually a hero, when in fact there is a mountain of evidence against him in a number of crimes.

It seems folk on your side of the aisle have no problem slinging insults, but get extreme butt hurt over the slightest unflattering term in return. For that matter, you don't seem to have a problem when your guy Trump calls his opponents, perceived opponents and even former employees names. In fact that seems to be part of his allure to you all.