Rammstein ... Oh no...

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So it seems that Rammstein were auditioning young girls to have sex with Till the lead singer.


Now I am not totally surprised, anyone who ever was interested in rock music knows this sort of thing went on.
I am a bit disappointed they are doing it now and possibly drugging girls.
Hell you wouldnt have thought they would need drugs would you?

Still I am sure there is no smoke without fire what a pity.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
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Hell you wouldnt have thought they would need drugs would you?

The lead singer looks like a demented, aging Herman Munster with a sexual identity problem(s).

Their "art" and hedonistic, industrial music style makes this less surprising.

If they're guilty, burn em. Burn every predator we can.

a reply to: EternalShadow

start to burn them, then see who they run under the bus
then let them burn

I read the whole article.

Charges and claims seem pretty iffy.

Like the media is making more out of it than is there.

Shocker.

I hope the accusations are not true.
I like listening to their music, A lot of their lyrics leave something to be desired though. (IMO)

I will either have to live with the cognitive dissonance or intentionally avoid them.

That being said if it is true, I hope they get what they deserve.

Anyone seen my woodchipper?

a reply to: SprocketUK

i was a fan of rammstein's art, especially their videos. since this disgusting story is doing the rounds and it seems more and more that lindemann has taken advantage of his position and acts like a pig towards young women (and maybe doing darker things), they are dead for me for now - even if the rest of the band probably has nothing to do with this #.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
So it seems that Rammstein were auditioning young girls to have sex with Till the lead singer.

The article mentions "young women", not "young girls".

a reply to: SprocketUK

So the wife and I are fairly medium rammstein fans. I only own one album but I do like their music - just for context.

Our understanding after discussion and being on a lot of metal boards is that the rest of the band is not involved but Till since he turned around 60 has gone kind of crazy and gotten into coc aine and has a 'row 0' at shows, where his Russian friend, or Madame auditions hot chicks from the audience to hang out. No one is forced into anything to my knowledge, but yes,
Till seems to be off his rocker.

There is a lot more about this on the Rammstein reddit. Also on other music fan and band fan sites.

The band members and support team have been doing this for years.

However in the past few years, seemingly after lockdown, they have ramped it up to the extreme.

The are videos of porn shoots of drugged girls under the stage, a production line of young (young) girls giving blowjobs, having sex and much much more.

It is claimed that they use date rape drugs and copious alcohol.

The band virtually insist with sex with the selected girls, and if one refuses she is led away and ejected from the party.

Why is it now a big deal now when they have always done this behavior in the past. Well, they have ramped it up, now choosing younger more innocent girls. The have gotten away with this for so long, and now have so much money for their legal teams, they think that that they are untouchable.

The 'loyal' fan base is slating the girls' stories, The RS PR machine is ramped up massively. Many of the forums have pr staff paid to post as if they are fans. Rammstein and other bands commonly do this. They keep the forums busy to make it look that there are a lot more fans than there actually are. Keep up the interest so to speak. Chilli Peppers are well known for this tactic too.

Rammstein are trying to undermine the girls' story, and making them into an Amber Heard Mk 1.5.

They are doing their best, trying to make the girls look like liars, unstable, vengeful etc.

The truth is very different. This is happening to many if not most of the Row 0 girls.

The young girls see Row 0 as a superfan right of passage. The truth is very different. "Get them, get sex and throw them out" _ right, next girl please.

One PR tactic the band has done, "we have sacked the bad seeds, it will be alright now"

Rammstein have pulled out all the stops to counter the story, as have the management, record label etc. This is a multi-billion euro (yes Billion) machine. They will stop at nothing to make sure incidents are undermined or covered up and the money keeps coming in.

Dig about the net a bit. There are quite horrific videos of some of these very young girls being abused. Other music blogging sites are having these stories taken down as soon as they are posted.

Rammstein are in a cover-it-up, damage limitation and super injunction mode, Some stories are now protected by legal super-injunctions. These usually have a finite lifespan, and they are hoping that rather than a huge flurry of accusations, they limit them to be spread over time.

The lead singer is being highlighted, but the other band members, production team, management are all involved as well. Even if they don't actively take part, they are still aware and turn a blind eye.

As I say, this has been going on for a long time. However the band are now overconfident, feel untouchable, have the legal clout and wealth, and have ramped up their behavior to levels unacceptable to the typical music goer.

There are dozens of videos taken down already. Do a search for "Row 0 groupie" on the alt adult sites. Some of the band members are easily identified.


Watch this space.

GP

originally posted by: chris_stibrany
So the wife and I are fairly medium rammstein fans. I only own one album but I do like their music - just for context.

Our understanding after discussion and being on a lot of metal boards is that the rest of the band is not involved but Till since he turned around 60 has gone kind of crazy and gotten into coc aine and has a 'row 0' at shows, where his Russian friend, or Madame auditions hot chicks from the audience to hang out. No one is forced into anything to my knowledge, but yes,
Till seems to be off his rocker.

This isn't a new thing for stars. Source: Trent Reznor banged my girlfriend in 2000. So long as they're not underage or drugged, it is what it always has been.

a reply to: LordAhriman


Did you marry this girlfriend?

Trent has always rubbed me the wrong way - although I love the band. Perhaps loved the band. He always has seemed uber pretentious and getting worse every year.

Generally great music up until .... the Slip or Year Zero, and then meh.

I mean.........its the music industry.
Sex, Drugs & Rock-n-roll. The women didnt know this about the music industry? lol

Is there criminal evidence that something illegal/criminal was being done to innocent females? That is not clear.


I like their music. *sigh* and *shrug*

originally posted by: EternalShadow

originally posted by: SprocketUK
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Hell you wouldnt have thought they would need drugs would you?

The lead singer looks like a demented, aging Herman Munster with a sexual identity problem(s).

Their "art" and hedonistic, industrial music style makes this less surprising.

If they're guilty, burn em. Burn every predator we can.

Its stage theatrics. Like Kiss or any other band.
Generally speaking, their lyrics are story telling and absolutely nothing compared to the black communities thug music.

I read the instagram post from the FRIEND of this girl making the accusations. She was at the party with her and denies anything happened and even said she was fine and making things up for attention. The girl in question isn't even good enough looking to be INVITED backstage. I don't even like the band, but slandering people before anything comes out seems to be the norm nowadays!

I'm a huge Rammstein fan and I hope they don't cancel their European tour because I have tickets for August!
So as a fan, I will not scream 'guilty' until guilt is proven. As I understand, the other band members started their own internal investigation.

Rockbands always had groupies and afterparties, and everyone knows what goes on there. When you get invited to sit in 'row zero', you know exactly where you are going after the concert and you know exactly what is going to happen. The woman who made the Tiktoks and others who spoke up after that, they don't seem all that naive... WTH did they think was going to happen when they were asked if they wanted to meet Till in private?

but who knows.... anyway, they are not talking about rape or minors and there is not proof at all that they were drugged (yet). So I'm hanging on to my concert tickets!

As for the fans and the crowd at these concerts, it's mostly an older audience, adults with normal lives who dress up in band-merch for the night, who drink a couple of beers and enjoy the theatrical shows. There is hardly any drugs, and I have never (never!) knew things to get out of control on a Rammstein concert.

Still a fan, of the Rammstein concept, but I don't really like the Till Lindemann solo thing.

Some good responses so far.

I am just left with a feeling of proper sadness to be honest. I thought they were better than this.

Its good to know though that some of the worst accusations seem to be false or exaggerated.

originally posted by: chris_stibrany
Did you marry this girlfriend?

Negative lol.

originally posted by: inflaymes
The girl in question isn't even good enough looking to be INVITED backstage.

Well, this is whats waiting for her backstage if true



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a reply to: SLAYER69

well, for those who are into 'that'', to each their own I guess....

I personally prefer Richard and Paul when it comes to looks (in their younger days though...)