If the Government Has UFO Crash Materials, It’s Time to Reveal Them by Christopher Mellon

a reply to: Arbitrageur

I agree in the way that…

Do we really need hardware materials to prove unknown Flying objects at this point?

The U.S. government has broadcasted to the entire world……that UFO’s/UAP’s exist! So by now…everybody and their grandma’s should now that.

Ok….so now that answers the “What” ………the only thing left is the “Who” ….whether they are physically piloted or controlled remotely.

We could use a live or dead suspect either by landing or crashing… right about now……

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a reply to: Jukiodone

Eggcellent!

The dam of information is cracking and leaking…….I can’t wait for the dam to bust and the government can no longer patch it!

But some insiders are now willing to take the risk of coming forward for the first time with knowledge of these recovery programs.

We need insiders to spill the beans about any beings…

Perhaps they’ll be some small measure of vindication for folks like these……



(The above ad free vid is classic imo…….it’s approximately 6hrs long. You can binge all, or break it up to one or two hour segments……stay hydrated and you’ll need any form of caffeine…..I.e. coffee, energy drinks etc…it’s worth the entire viewing….imo)

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1
Have you never heard the parable of Doubting Thomas? Nobody should believe anything that anybody says is fact as one mans fact is another mans propaganda. Until there is something solid for people to touch it's all just hearsay. NOW, let's put a better definition about all this post. What everybody is alluding to is not UFO/ UAP debris/evidence as this is just evidence of unidentified objects or phenomena which 100% could be man made anyway. The whole argument is not UFO/UAP it's ALIEN. It's alien technology that people want to know about.

originally posted by: 1947boomer
Only if you think that some other country already had Roswell UFO technology in the 1940s. I don't. For example, we don't know how to make the Roswell "memory foil", even today. We have a better understanding of how it COULD work, because of advances in metamaterials and whatnot, but nobody on the planet can make the stuff. IMHO

Don't take the witness stories at face value. Proof: Jesse Marcel said the "indestructible" material was found in lots of little pieces over a huge debris field. Now, are we going to admit that's a self debunking claim since if the material was indestructibe, it wouldn't be in lots of little pieces?

Likewise with the "memory foil", there's likely an element of truth since when you layer two sheets together like foil and paper, stresses can be induced that may involve some recovery after bending. And it turns out the radar reflectors specified such material, so my guess is the "memory foil" was actually the specified paper backed foil used to make the radar reflectors. For example these foil papers are described as "wrinkle resistant" and you'll say "but it was described as more magical than wrinkle resistant", probably another exaggeration like Marcel's "indestructible" exaggeration.

Hygloss Metallic Foil Papers

Hygloss's wrinkle-resistant metallic foil paper is available in both sheets and rolls... It has brilliant, metallic-like colors on one side only.

Specification for the radar reflector likely recovered at Roswell, "Aluminum Foil Paper":
The Roswell Crash... Alien Spacecraft or Mogul Service Flight?


Anyway I'd bet that Aluminum Foil Paper is the so-called "memory foil" described in exaggerated myth-making.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
Ok….so now that answers the “What” ………the only thing left is the “Who” ….whether they are physically piloted or controlled remotely.

The famous alien-hunter Seth Shostak thinks remotely piloted makes sense, and it's not a stretch given that's exactly how our probes on Mars are operated, well remotely instructed with some AI to make decisions that can't be made instantly from Earth due to the time lag. The further the probes go, the more the time lag (to send radio signals at the speed of light) and the more AI will be needed for human probes, why not for alien probes too? Space travel is really bad on human physiology, possibly aliens too if they are anything like us, but much less of a problem for probes.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

From News Nation today….a whistleblower speaks….with more to come tonight.

News Nation

WOWzers!

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I don't think I have been this excited since Zondo's flamboyant fashion days.

a reply to: mirageman

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Btw….MM….I’ve been adding to the other thread about the latest ‘Whistleblower” to avoid duping posts.

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No idea how true this claim is, but would not surprise me at all:

the existence of a decades-long “publicly unknown Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material – a competition with near-peer adversaries over the years to identify UAP crashes/landings and retrieve the material for exploitation/reverse engineering to garner asymmetric national defense advantages.”

This is interesting as well:

“His assertion concerning the existence of a terrestrial arms race occurring sub-rosa over the past eighty years focused on reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin is fundamentally correct, as is the indisputable realization that at least some of these technologies of unknown origin derive from non-human intelligence,” said Karl Nell, the retired Army Colonel who worked with Grusch on the UAP Task Force.

Eighty years? That puts us back to 1943.

Cheers

Old news only repeated by new whistleblowers. The original whistleblower is Col. Philip Corso

www.youtube.com...

www.amazon.com...=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1686078871&sr=8-1

Former member of President Eisenhower’s National Security Council and the Foreign Technology Desk in the United States Army, Colonel Philip J. Corso was assigned to work at a strange crash site in Roswell in 1947. He had no idea that his work there would change his life and the course of history forever. Only in his fascinating memoir can you discover how he helped removed alien artifacts from the site and used them to help improve much of the technology the Army uses today, such as circuit chips, fiber optics, and more.

Laying bare the United States government’s shocking role in the Roswell incident—what was found, the cover-up, and more—The Day After Roswell is an extraordinary memoir that not only forces us to reconsider the past, but also our role in the universe.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: ITSALIVE

Your right…..I went off the rail in responding to your post…..

I’ve had personal experiences in my life that continues to lead me to “I want to believe”.

I want my government for once in its existence, to tell me and the rest of us the absolute truth behind what’s in our skies. It’s a hopeful wish.

Your stipulation for convincing you, is to find bonafide life elsewhere….off-planet. I don’t personally hold that view. I echo others that say….they are here and have been here for a long time.

I believe the government is the holder of half truths.

You state….”the existence of UFO’s does not prove the existence of aliens” …… I could see that to be true….but I can also say, what if UFO’s themselves were manifested lifeforms’s?

Theories abound.

I have also stated….in previous threads……why are we waisting money looking for life in the Cosmos….when they’re already supposed to be here….imo.

The government is a puppeteer performing acts along the way of our daily lives.

The day a ufo lands or crashes, wheather occupied by living entities or not, in a populated area I.e. Main Street……whatever country….the u.s. government will loose some of its control…and I believe they will have to fess up.

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So you believe the government is a higher power that knows there are alien civilizations and hides it from you like in Hollywood movies. Your belief and “want to believe” attitude sounds far too religious and not based in the same physical reality we all are temporarily sharing.

I do appreciate you understand your want does not mean you hold the truth, and instead you hold faith. Few admit that.

This statement from Josh Hawley caught my attention.

www.newsweek.com...

Didn’t want to start a new thread for this story, because it has to do with the mundane procedural process of fully funding the AARO…

Source: Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand secures 'full-funding' for govt office on researching UAP (UFO) sightings

Recently, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., announced she and other lawmakers had secured "full-funding" for a new U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) office specifically created to research Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings.

The announcement follows years of Gillibrand and other lawmakers like Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., trying to allocate full-funding for the government office designed to study sightings of what are more commonly known as UFOs.

In a press release put out by her office last week, Gillibrand – also the chair of the Senate Armed Services Emerging Threats and Capabilities Subcommittee – announced "she had secured full funding for the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) in the Senate Armed Services Committee’s markup of the FY24 National Defense Authorization Act."

Yippee……

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The latest from news nation ….July 11th

“Just release the Files”



Although this…..Congressmen is a proponent of UFO transparency…..he does not serve on any IC committee.

He’s just another voice in the wind…a new preacher to the choir

Tim Burchett

Someone give him the smallest violin in the world…..

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Sorry , Christopher Mellon does Not have a High Enough Security Clearance to View that Data . Access Denied........

Pentagon will be forced to reveal everything it knows about UFOs in the next 300 DAYS: Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer pushes legislation to declassify documents about phenomena

www.dailymail.co.uk... ml

Bipartisan deal here---good.

I wonder how they will derail FINALLY true disclosure from this government. We'll disclose in terms of the hidden stuff---whatever it is.

They'll try the usual---we can't tell you because that would tell the Russians about our technology. I'm not expectant, but I'm hopeful.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

As this process has progressed, and the credibility of these claims has grown, so too have my concerns. What if I’m helping to pry open a genuine Pandora’s box, releasing information that might prove destructive, destabilizing or for many simply terrifying? I’ve repeatedly had to ask myself: “Is disclosure in the best interest of the public? Am I doing the right thing working to bring what could be America’s most deeply buried secret to light?”…..

Come on Mellon, don't get cold feet, the Pandora box has been opened you can't close it now

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Here’s the problem. The alien or ufo technology may be about the more advanced attributes of the so-called aliens themselves, as individuals and a collective, sort of like what we can do versus monkeys.

The clash would be too disparate; they opposed to us, like the ID theory. Only some mystics among us claim attributes that can traverse spiritual( if you will) dimensions, not your average human.

In other words, we don’t know what we’re opening up.

That’s why I say if Mellon had any doubts, he should have said nothing.

Secret knowledge as a concept is valid; in the same sense, we don’t tell our children about puberty( other than that birds and the bees bs) until their biologically able to understand it or tell them the world you were born in is an ugly suffering-inducing world. No, we let them grow up and see that for themselves

So, this is a let them know, and may the chips fall where they may

The chips can fall on our heads and be bricks! And knock the hell out of many of us.

Or be a boon to humanity and uplift us

Or have little consequences