Alternate cancer therapy sources?

Honestly, both the wife and I have been taking apricot kernels for a while now, and I can't see any negative effects (so far) from it. Some are more bitter than others, but all in all, it is tolerable eating. On a positive note, she has had a patch on one of her legs that she has had for quite a long time now, and it appears to be healing up on her. Perhaps just a coincidence, but then again, perhaps not. She has read a book on the topic of amygdalin and I started reading it myself before getting distracted with something else. I think the book would be well worth reading for anyone interested in this particular topic.

World Without Cancer; The Story of Vitamin B17

www.amazon.com...=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Along a different line of thought, I am pursuing info and feedback about dendritic cell therapy. That Oasis place in Mexico does offer it, but I want to look around to learn more about it and perhaps even find someone with some first hand experience. I believe Moffitt might be starting up clinical trials with a similar procedure, but Connie wouldn't qualify for it because she does not have any tumors. This might sound like real good news except that we were told that ovarian cancer often expresses itself in two dimensions only, sort of like a sheet that can cover organs, instead of the more typical 3D tumors. So it could be widespread but just not visible on the typical CT scan. The oncologist at Moffitt suggested that perhaps we would consider dropping the Avastin treatments with the hopes that Connie would develop a tumor and then quality for the clinical trial. Yeah, I guess some doctors DO think that way.....

I feel like I am racing the clock now. She had a CA125 test done yesterday (05-31-2023) and that number was 4330, up from 2580 three weeks ago. Her glucose WB level has now also risen a bit above the normal range. News is not good.

She still seems to feel fine, but she tires easily and gets a little winded when we take our walks. Which, honestly, haven't been all that frequent lately, since the ferocious yellow fly season is upon us. I will find a place nearby to drive to that perhaps we can take our walks without the fly bites.

Anyway, sure so appreciate all the help and opinions. I read as much as I can before my brain feels like it is going to burst into flames. This is SO overwhelming.

Connie and I talked about that Oasis Of Hope. I asked her the only question that really matters to me. "Do you believe it will help you?" And she said "Yes". We may ask her sister to accompany her down there (if this is the route we take) as I believe I would be more of a hindrance than a help to her there. I am not into the health food thing, nor the sing alongs, and I probably would be getting underfoot watching what they were doing like a hawk watching a wounded mouse. She worries about me much more than she does herself. So the entire time we would be there, she would not be focusing on herself as she should be. As much as I want to be there with her, I really have to keep in mind what would be BEST for her, not for me. The question really high on my mind is, how will I react having her away from me for 3 weeks? My imagination is very difficult to control, so being alone might not be real good for me. But no, I can't worry her about something like that, now can I?

Sheesh.... I wrote to Moffitt asking them if they offered dendritic cell therapy or if not, who they could recommend, inside or outside of the USA. So I get a reply back claiming that they don't know of anyone using it. I guess they don't get out very much there........ :/

originally posted by: Rich Z
Sheesh.... I wrote to Moffitt asking them if they offered dendritic cell therapy or if not, who they could recommend, inside or outside of the USA. So I get a reply back claiming that they don't know of anyone using it. I guess they don't get out very much there........ :/

Possibly because it has a low success rate (3 in 10) and requires a genetic test to see if it's even possible to offer it.

I'd recommend you contact online support groups (there are many on Facebook) for additional strategies. Look for groups that are moderated - the other groups are often plagued by spammers who want to sell worthless products.

If you are interested, this link may help you find some support groups that are a good match for you both


and as always, very best wishes to you and your wife.

a reply to: Byrd

Thank you. I have signed up for a few of those support groups.

Connie has pretty much made up her mind she wants to go to Oasis Of Hope in Tijuana. Sure wish I could connect with more people with direct experience. Yeah, I have read what reviews I have been able to find online, but not sure how much wheat is actually among all the chaff I see.

Possibly because it has a low success rate (3 in 10) and requires a genetic test to see if it's even possible to offer it.

Well, thinking about this, won't those three successes make those people ecstatic? As long as those other seven don't suffer severe negative side effects, wouldn't that be well worth trying? Suppose your spouse was one of those 3? Would it be worth it to you to have tried it?

Connie will be leaving for Tijuana on Sunday for treatment at the Oasis Of Hope.

For the record, and hopefully I am not jumping the gun here, but her CA125 tumor marker blood test has DROPPED for the first time in a long time since coming off of chemo. I believe the various alternate therapies she has been taking may be helping. Prior to her taking them, her numbers were doubling every three weeks.

Fingers crossed.

a reply to: Rich Z

My better half was diagnosed with breast cancer seven years back, She takes Ginger tea on a regular basis along with the normal green tea. The Ginger is activated by the hot water and is quite pleasant. So far she has been all clear. That's shredded ginger root about a square inch a day. The science is fairly clear on how it stops cancer cell development.Also, stop or greatly reduce Dairy as it feeds cancer just like sugar.
Another cancer destroyer is Tumeric root, but it has to be prepared slightly differently from the Ginger the health benefits become clear quite fast. Shred about a square inch and sprinkle with olive oil and black pepper. it's oil soluble and the pepper increases bioavailability hundreds of times. There is a lot of science on it if you check it out. My suspicion is that it does something to the Telomeres on the DNA, I take it regularly and started to give it to my old dog, who used to come back from a walk limping and was looking just like a tired old dog. The change in her has been frankly weird.I was giving her Ginger, but she wasn't that interested but she can't get enough Tumeric I am sure she knows instinctually what she needs. Anyway, she doesn't limp and is alert like she has lost a few years. So she gets a bit every day along with me.

Thanks for the advice. Connie is drinking ginger tea, but she says lately that it burns her throat. I know she has been taking Tumeric (Curcumin) pretty regularly, but in the tablet form that she melts under her tongue.

As for diary, she has been off of that as well as sugar and wheat products for quite a while now. She has had a healthy diet for many years now. That is why this cancer crap was such a shock to us. She would read books on cancer and how to avoid it via diet, and would slam the books down in disgust saying "But I have been DOING that!"

Really glad to hear that your better half seems to be beating cancer. It does my heart good to hear of such wins against this plague.

a reply to: Rich Z

Don't forget the zinc and vitamin D3 you still need a reasonable amount to keep the immune system in good shape.

Yeah, she has been taking those and much more. One of these days I need to just sit down and make up a list of all she is taking. Giving no quarter for those damned cancer cells!

Well, so far Connie seems to be doing pretty well at the Oasis in Tijuana. She will be coming home on Friday.

She had a treatment called "LAK - lymphocyte activated killer cells" yesterday that doesn't seem to have caused any negative side effects with her.

She is scheduled to begin the dendritic cell therapy today, which I don't think will be a lot of fun for her. Apparently they have to use a large gauge needle that will be administered via veins in her upper thighs. Alternating from one leg to the other.

Damn I HATE that she is having to go through this crap. I truly hope that it will be all worthwhile, though. Really can't stand the thought of it being not.

I have spent all morning reading about Artemisinin which is a product of Sweet wormwood and readily available. And strangely enough, it's safe and tons of information from NIH and many other sites. It's crazy how a little recommended site spawned a voracious research that has taken literally my whole morning. You can buy the pills off of Amazon. I actually came upon it reading about repurposing natural cancer RX and products for other medical maladies. Quite fascinating that there are so many plants and products that treat a multitude of issues from minor to major. Cancer being major IMHO. Pasting below some basic info but there is literally massive amounts of information with real data from testing and it isn't new. Chinese and others have been using since ancient times. I can't believe I hadn't heard of it until now.

It also works as a preventative. I'm also going to start taking tonic water with a high ratio of quinine or else quinine supplements. You can't deny the evidence and 1 in 4 will get some form of cancer. Breast cancer runs in both my maternal and paternal bloodlines so it isn't something to ignore and hope it goes away type of issue.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Artemisinin and its derivatives are produced from the medicinal herb Artemisia annua. They constitute a class of potent antimalarial drugs. Some of these compounds have already been used for many years in areas in which malaria is endemic, mainly in Asia, and are currently undergoing phase II or phase III studies in other areas. Studies in China, Vietnam, and Thailand have shown that artemisinin and derivatives quickly reduce parasitemia in patients with acute falciparum malaria and induce fast resolution of symptoms (10, 11, 13, 17, 19, 22).

Dosage regimens have largely been determined empirically. Few pharmacokinetic data are available to aid the development of rational dosage regimens, which is partly attributable to limited access to a sensitive and specific assay for measuring the concentration of artemisinin in plasma. A recently developed accurate high-performance liquid chromatography (HPLC) technique with electrochemical detection has now enabled additional studies (4, 12, 20).
In a previous study of the pharmacokinetics of artemisinin after a single 500-mg oral dose on an empty stomach in healthy Vietnamese subjects, it was found that absorption of artemisinin was rapid but probably incomplete, yielding peak concentrations of 289 to 734 ng z ml21 (4). Very high values for the apparent volume of distribution/bioavailability ratio (V/f) and clearance/bioavailability ratio (Cl/f) were found. Mean 6 standard deviation (SD) elimination was rapid, with a half-life of 2.6 6 0.6 h. The in vitro MIC of artemisinin for Plasmodium falciparum is 3 to 30 ng z ml21 (8, 9, 18, 23). Plasma drug concentrations were higher than the MIC for up to 12 h after dosage. Since the bioavailability of artemisinin is probably low, influences on absorption might have implications for efficacy. An important aspect of therapy is that artemisinin, a treatment for acute disease, will be administered irrespective of recent food intake. Artemisinin is neither very water soluble nor lipid soluble. Food intake could be a major determinant of absorption. Apart from its influence on absorption, food intake could also affect hepatic clearance by stimulation of liver blood flow, since hepatic clearance is probably the most important route of elimination for artemisinin (15, 16, 21).

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naturalnews.com...

(Related: Artemisinin is also a remedy for malaria, several localized cases of which have emerged in Florida and Texas.)

Artemisinins are safer and arguably more effective than chemotherapy and radiation
It was Nobel Prize winner and eminent Chinese scientist Prof. Youyou Tu who four decades ago first discovered that artemisinin is a powerful remedy for malaria. The drug class is used all around the world to mitigate the disease.

Since then, the artemisinin class of drugs has continued to intrigue scientists and medical professionals because they recognize that its repurpose potential as a novel therapeutic agent for other conditions is strong.

"Artemisinins are a remarkable class of compounds that have shown promising cytotoxic effects against viruses, fungi and a variety of cancers as well as powerful anti-inflammatory effects in animal models of asthma, sepsis, arthritis, pancreatitis, systemic lupus erythematosus and haemorrhagic shock," the paper explains, citing a litany of sources to back their use for each of these unique purposes.

Keep in mind that, despite being labeled as "drugs," artemisinins are technically natural in that they are derived from sweet wormwood (Artemisia annua L.). They represent a family of sesquiterpene trioxane agents that contain an active metabolite known as dihydroartemisinin, or DHA for short.

"Artesunate, artemether and arteether are derivatives of artemisinin that are wholly or partially converted into the active metabolite dihydroartemisinin (DHA)," the study reveals.

"Sweet wormwood (qinghao) has been used in traditional Chinese medicine for two millennia to treat fevers and a variety of inflammatory conditions. Humanity has probably wrestled with the life-threatening global epidemic of malaria since as far back as 770 BCE with a detailed description of symptoms of malaria described in the Inner Canon of the Yellow Emperor, written around the time of the Chun Qiu and Qin Dynasties (770–207 B·C.)."

Renowned Chinese physician Ge Hong (284-363) listed qinghaosu as an essential remedy for fevers in the publication Emergency Prescriptions Kept up one's Sleeve. He also wrote a treatise called "On Airs, Waters, and Places" in 400 B.C. when Hippocrates was describing "agues" and "tertian fevers" as frequently affecting people who lived close to swamps and marshlands where mosquitoes happen to live and breed.

Fast-forward to today and artemisinins are not only being used to treat malaria but also cancer.

"The antimalarial quinine was used in the early 20th century as an anti-arrhythmic agent to treat atrial fibrillation," the study explains.

"Difluoromethylornithine (DFMO) which was originally developed as an anti-cancer therapy has been repurposed as a treatment for sleeping sickness. To date there are over 100 candidate drugs undergoing drug repurposing clinical trials for cancer."

"An artemisinin drug repurposing programme for a number of cancer types, with a variety of clinical settings and combination therapies from pump priming window studies to Phase III clinical trials is urgently needed."

Looking for more information about how to deal with cancer naturally?

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www.sciencedirect.com...

4. Artemisinins: Multiple modes of action against cancer

Carcinogenesis in humans is a complex process and 8 key hallmarks have been well described (Hanahan & Weinberg, 2011). These include sustained proliferative signaling, evasion of cell death and growth suppression, induction of angiogenesis, invasion and metastasis, reprogramming energy metabolism and evasion of immune destruction (Hanahan & Weinberg, 2011). In the last three decades, artemisinins have shown potent and broad anticancer properties in a range of cell lines and animal models...

Rather interesting how many anti-parasitic drugs seem to have anti-cancer properties, eh? Makes you wonder.......

originally posted by: Rich Z
Rather interesting how many anti-parasitic drugs seem to have anti-cancer properties, eh? Makes you wonder.......

According to Natural News, yes. According to medical research, no.

There's some "hand-wavium" in the NN article... the Artemisinins in wormwood aren't the same strength, purity, or (often) even the same type as the pharmaceutical ones (it's like saying "all canines are GREAT protection animals"... and then someone hands you a fennec fox instead of a Doberman for a guard animal, or a dire wolf when you're looking for an agility dog.)

Well, the interesting thing about "medical research" is that if there is NO research done, then they can claim there is NO evidence of something working. To make matters even worse, if the procedures used are designed to fail, by not following the correct instructions, then they can they write up papers showing negative results.

When there is big money involved, don't expect truth to have any bearing on the results.

IMHO.

originally posted by: Rich Z
My wife was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer just over a year ago. She had surgery to remove three masses and any related tissues that appeared to have "disease". Then she went on chemo for six cycles (with a break in between caused by the original oncologist dragging her feet while making a chemo change she wanted to progress to. So the wife actually finished up the chemo regimen with a second oncologist, and then went on to taking only Avastin as supposedly a maintenance program. But she never had her CA125 tumor marker test drop down into the "normal" level. And now for the past few blood tests, that number is rising steadily. CT scans show no tumors, but we recently found out that ovarian cancer will sometimes (often") spread as a sheet across and around organs instead of forming three dimensional tumors. My wife has had to have fluid drained from the sack around her right lung (pleural effusion) several times, and there might now be fluid possibly building up in both lung sacks. The fluid that was drained was confirmed to contain cancer cell.

Really not crazy about just going through more chemo treatments as the standard oncologists here in the USA apparently believe in trying to get as close to killing the patient as they can, hoping that the cancer will die before the patient does. We have been reading a LOT about alternative treatments, and honestly after the fiasco with the FDA stomping hard on Ivermectin and other drugs in order to push the vaccines, I have developed a lot of distrust for what the FDA permits doctors to use and not to use. It doesn't take a big leap of thought to assume that this sort of filtering is taking place within the cancer industry as well.

But what to believe? There is so much biased information and counter information available, that picking the wheat from the chaff is nearly impossible to do. As a for instance, my wife is seriously considering going to Tijuana Mexico -> www.oasisofhope.com... because of a personal recommendation from someone she talked to personally who has been there and highly recommended it. But heck, there are lots of negative reviews as well as positive ones. Which ones are truthful and which ones are just planted trolls by the powers who would rather not have any competing alternatives to suck away the profits of the pharmaceutical companies?

So here is the thing. If my wife is convinced this Tijuana junket will help, and it is NOT cheap, how in the world can I say to her, "No, sorry, but I don't believe it will help you" when I certainly don't know that at all. And would she resent my standing in the way of her MAYBE getting better, or at least living a few more years longer than she will otherwise?

I guess I am asking for input from anyone who has first hand (or relatively so) with any alternate source of therapies that had a successful (relatively speaking) resolution. Surely some are legit? Or are they all just trying to sell snake oil to grab as much money as they can from desperate people at their most desperate times?

Any advice would be GREATLY, GREATLY appreciated. My wife actually feels pretty good now, but I don't know how much of this borrowed time she has left before things get worse. Stage 4 ovarian cancer does not have a good track record for survivability of the victims. After being married to this woman, who is also my best friend, for 45 years, I would like to keep her around as long as possible.

Yes, please do yourself and your wife a favor and check out the link ScotchJimmy provided. The ATS poster "nofear46" had indicated he had done this treatment to his cancer...

.so I started taking 100mg Mebendazole tablets 3 times a day ,200 mg cimetidine tablets 4 times a day www.canceractive.com... and 50 grams of Glutamine power twice a day.

Looks like he went from "death bed" state to still being alive after staying on that regimen for 10+ years.

Based on that testimony (and from another poster's testimony (theAlmo), it's worth a shot. Pls keep us posted and up to date if you do decide to try something like this.

Connie wants to give the protocol recommended by Oasis Of Health a shot. She has had dendritic cell therapy that ended on 07-13-2023. She is supposed to wait three weeks for those dendritic cells to establish themselves, and then begin a regimen of light dose chemo drugs orally along with various nutrients and supplements.

Meanwhile, she had a PET scan on 07-24-2023 that shows that her cancer has spread quite a bit within her torso. Not into the bones, however.

I actually bought mebendazole for her, and she was taking it, along with some other researched supplements before she went to Tijuana. Right before her trip, her CA125 number had leveled off and even dropped a slight bit. 4200 something. Her latest CA125 blood test, taken on 07-17-2024 showed that the number had risen to over 10,000. Normal is considered as being less than 35.

Here is the dilemma I face. If I believe that Mebendazole would save her and force her to abandon the Oasis of Health plan, and she dies, would the guilt crush me thinking that MAYBE that Oasis plan WOULD have worked had I let it? But on the other hand, if I let her have the path she wants to take and she dies, would I be crushed with guilt because I didn't STOP her to go back to Mebendazole?

Of course, the best course would be for her to have things turn around and she just gets better. Otherwise, well, we could be in for a very rough road ahead. Mine likely to be a lot longer than hers.

If only I could just wake up to find this was the worst nightmare EVER.................

I am so sorry to hear about Connie's continuing problems.

originally posted by: Rich Z
Connie wants to give the protocol recommended by Oasis Of Health a shot. She has had dendritic cell therapy that ended on 07-13-2023. She is supposed to wait three weeks for those dendritic cells to establish themselves, and then begin a regimen of light dose chemo drugs orally along with various nutrients and supplements.

(noted)

Meanwhile, she had a PET scan on 07-24-2023 that shows that her cancer has spread quite a bit within her torso. Not into the bones, however.

Poor woman -- that must have been a real emotional blow for her. What a difficult thing to hear.

I actually bought mebendazole for her, and she was taking it, along with some other researched supplements before she went to Tijuana. Right before her trip, her CA125 number had leveled off and even dropped a slight bit. 4200 something. Her latest CA125 blood test, taken on 07-17-2024 showed that the number had risen to over 10,000. Normal is considered as being less than 35.

Here is the dilemma I face. If I believe that Mebendazole would save her and force her to abandon the Oasis of Health plan, and she dies, would the guilt crush me thinking that MAYBE that Oasis plan WOULD have worked had I let it? But on the other hand, if I let her have the path she wants to take and she dies, would I be crushed with guilt because I didn't STOP her to go back to Mebendazole?

Did she even tell the people in Tijuana that she was taking these supplements?

Lots of times people don't tell medical professionals everything that they're taking (those CBD gummies, for instance (I take them, by the way, and yes all of my doctors know it)) Mebendazole has a whole laundry list of drugs that it doesn't play well with and it's harmful if taken if you have liver problems.

If you're going to try a treatment, try that ONE treatment and not fifty others at the same time, because they may act at cross-purposes with each other.

Of course, the best course would be for her to have things turn around and she just gets better. Otherwise, well, we could be in for a very rough road ahead. Mine likely to be a lot longer than hers.

If only I could just wake up to find this was the worst nightmare EVER.................

I am truly sorry for the situation you're in. I recommend that you find a cancer support group (local) for both you and your wife. They will have resources and opinions on local physicians that will be valuable as well as information on nursing services, should you need those. I would ordinarily recommend some Facebook groups, but the ones I saw on cancer were full of fake profiles (people pretending to have cancer... when you check their page, you see they're selling all sorts of scam products and this claim of a "cure" is simply another grab for your money.)

Anyway, please pick one idea to follow at at time... not all of them at once. And please let the medical team know about the trip to Oasis of Dreams (they will probably be as dismissive of it as I am, BUT they need to know what was apparently done in order to make sure that whatever they do doesn't cause additional problems for your poor wife.)

(sigh) and again, best wishes to you both.