Biden beats Trump big, loses to DeSantis: 2024 polls

Here's some info about the poll.

WPA Intelligence CEO Chris Wilson, who was named Pollster of the Year by the American Association of Political Consultants in 2021 for his work directing survey research and predictive analytics on Glenn Youngkin’s successful gubernatorial campaign, concludes that “Biden’s best hope for reelection is the nomination of Donald Trump, the man Biden beat in 2020 and would beat again in 2024. Not only would a Trump nomination hand Biden the White House (again), it would also have catastrophic down ballot effects on GOP candidates at all levels.” 

Wilson’s memo states, “if the election were held today and Trump was the Republican nominee, Trump would lose to Joe Biden, 319 Electoral College votes to 219 Electoral College votes. Biden would receive the highest number of Electoral College votes a winner has received since Barack Obama defeated Mitt Romney in 2012. Comparatively, based on current polling, DeSantis would defeat Biden and win the White House with at least 286 Electoral College votes, or 296 if he carried the toss-up state of Wisconsin.”

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And the article.

President Biden would handily defeat former President Donald Trump in the 2024 Electoral College — but lose to Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, according to a new analysis of national and state polling.

According to WPA intelligence, which examined seven national popular vote polls since mid-February, the 76-year-old Trump would lose to Biden by an average of 3.1%, while DeSantis, 44, would win the popular vote over the incumbent by an average of 1.2%

The survey also showed DeSantis leading Biden in five of six likely 2024 battleground states — Arizona (48%-42%), Michigan (45%-43%), Nevada (44%-41%), North Carolina (44%-41%) and Pennsylvania (45%-42%).

In a sixth battleground state, Wisconsin, DeSantis and Biden are in a dead heat with 45% support each.

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Hopefully everyone in both parties can ignore the distractions put in place by the globalists and be united against the real threat which is the globalist agenda which affects everyone, whether you are democrat, republican or non partisan.

Nope. Not buying it.

originally posted by: Rich Z
Nope. Not buying it.

Why not? Can you elaborate?

give me the raw data
I'll make prove whatever you want

Biden's health is 80@& percent gone now.

It is most likely Feetterman will be elected just to piss off Americans.

originally posted by: acackohfcc
give me the raw data
I'll make prove whatever you want

So do you think DeSantis is a psyop to split the vote like Ross Perot? Do you think DeSantis would run as a 3rd party if he decided to run and didn't get the GOP nomination?

a reply to: Antimony

I don’t think polls are real. I think they’re one of the governments ways of controlling the public. It’s likely they never were real.

originally posted by: Antimony

originally posted by: Rich Z
Nope. Not buying it.

Why not? Can you elaborate?

Like Jeff Foxworthy would say "you might be a redneck if..."
You might be a liberal if you think that Joe Biden could beat anybody , for anything , anywhere ....

originally posted by: Notabot12345666
a reply to: Antimony

I don’t think polls are real. I think they’re one of the governments ways of controlling the public. It’s likely they never were real.

So true. They always come from somewhere with an agenda. It seems.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Antimony

originally posted by: Rich Z
Nope. Not buying it.

Why not? Can you elaborate?

Like Jeff Foxworthy would say "you might be a redneck if..."
You might be a liberal if you think that Joe Biden could beat anybody , for anything , anywhere ....

I appreciate the humor but I'm just wondering why people think it is so unbelievable that someone might end up being more popular than Trump. Also he already "beat" Trump once. I put "beat" in quotation marks because I don't really believe Biden actually won but I mean what is stopping them from rigging it again? It only takes a small number of votes in key areas to rig the election.

Biden only wins if they rig the election like they did last time. Desantis is funded by Soros and Trump is the only available choice not completely bought by special interests. Biden voters can’t even afford to live right now in their cities, but we’re suppose to believe they’re lining up to vote for the guy that destroyed their lives? I mean we do live in clown world so anything is possible with the left.

a reply to: StraightFacts

It's really sad when people think that if their person doesn't win it must be rigged.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
Hell Trump and all those firms and lawyers can't prove it was rigged.
So apparently it wasn't or he and his puppets are too stupid to figure it out. If it is that they are that stupid then why would you want stupid people running the country?
Just think about that for a second.

a reply to: Antimony

Only the brain dead would vote for the brain dead. After all, they are the only ones who could relate.

Democrats win by a large margin in reality no matter who runs, but it has nothing to do with the views of the people.

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: StraightFacts

It's really sad when people think that if their person doesn't win it must be rigged.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
Hell Trump and all those firms and lawyers can't prove it was rigged.
So apparently it wasn't or he and his puppets are too stupid to figure it out. If it is that they are that stupid then why would you want stupid people running the country?
Just think about that for a second.

How would you go about proving an election where mail in ballots were sent in their millions and never required signature verification was rigged?

That the election was rigged is staring you in the face, just the same as when you know a murderer is guilty but can not prove it beyond reasonable doubt and so they walk free. OJ Simpson for example.

You can gaslight all you want about 'proof' but that is a legal matter that requires a legal framework that is not politicised.

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: StraightFacts

It's really sad when people think that if their person doesn't win it must be rigged.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
Hell Trump and all those firms and lawyers can't prove it was rigged.
So apparently it wasn't or he and his puppets are too stupid to figure it out. If it is that they are that stupid then why would you want stupid people running the country?
Just think about that for a second.

Good points.

a reply to: Antimony

I'm just wondering why people think it is so unbelievable that someone might end up being more popular than Trump

Trump has upset the globalist and a few others, top ranks at the FBI don't like him. Even a dead, smelly fish is more popular than Trump with this crowd.

With all this money directing media policy, fact checkers and other shenanigans to control the narrative, it has a lot of people conned. If they knew better they would change their ideas, but years of the corporate media has blinded them to some realities. Even though they may question things at times, they don't want to break that trust and confidence in the system.

The internet has helped expand up a lot of different topics out there. It has become a battlefield trying to sort out the facts from the fiction at times.

Another possibility if Sleepy Joe is really that popular, could there actually be some other nano tech with this mRNA stuff? The Borg invasion is going to plan...

Trump does have a bad rep in the media for whatever reasons, it's going to be tough with the scale of the fraud going on.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: StraightFacts

It's really sad when people think that if their person doesn't win it must be rigged.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
Hell Trump and all those firms and lawyers can't prove it was rigged.
So apparently it wasn't or he and his puppets are too stupid to figure it out. If it is that they are that stupid then why would you want stupid people running the country?
Just think about that for a second.

How would you go about proving an election where mail in ballots were sent in their millions and never required signature verification was rigged?

That the election was rigged is staring you in the face, just the same as when you know a murderer is guilty but can not prove it beyond reasonable doubt and so they walk free. OJ Simpson for example.

You can gaslight all you want about 'proof' but that is a legal matter that requires a legal framework that is not politicised.

Never should have done the mail-in voting. Why did they do this? I almost feel like the pandemic was a set up to get more mail-in votes to manipulate.

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: Antimony

I'm just wondering why people think it is so unbelievable that someone might end up being more popular than Trump

Trump has upset the globalist and a few others, top ranks at the FBI don't like him. Even a dead, smelly fish is more popular than Trump with this crowd.

With all this money directing media policy, fact checkers and other shenanigans to control the narrative, it has a lot of people conned. If they knew better they would change their ideas, but years of the corporate media has blinded them to some realities. Even though they may question things at times, they don't want to break that trust and confidence in the system.

The internet has helped expand up a lot of different topics out there. It has become a battlefield trying to sort out the facts from the fiction at times.

Another possibility if Sleepy Joe is really that popular, could there actually be some other nano tech with this mRNA stuff? The Borg invasion is going to plan...

Trump does have a bad rep in the media for whatever reasons, it's going to be tough with the scale of the fraud going on.

I know it's like they want us to feel like it's hopeless for Trump with all the constant media nonsense and here is this nice shiny young candidate similar but not the same as Trump to vote for. That's why I wanted people's opinions on what they think of all this.

a reply to: Antimony
Hopefully everyone in both parties can ignore the distractions put in place by the globalists and be united against the real threat which is the globalist agenda which affects everyone, whether you are democrat, republican or non partisan.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that?

You have at most 2 choices, even though they like dangling carrots, still 2 choices. Biden couldn't beat the dust off a pillow.

Both choices will be a net loss.

It's over, Rock.

Lies, damn lies, statistics, polls, MSM, etc,(in ascending order of deceit).

The global agenda is upon us.