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What if it was China who blew up the Nord Stream Pipeline ?

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posted on May, 2 2023 @ 12:37 AM
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Now this theory I have is completely hypothetical in nature & just my take from looking down on the events both politically as well militarily.

China is consuming natural resources like hotcakes & Russia has plenty of gas & oil .
So if China blew up the Nord Stream , Russia then would have to sell more gas to China or go broke .
China wins & so does the USA , because America is very concerned about a German/Russian alliance.

When Biden said he was going to shut Nord Stream down , what if He was willing to take credit but have China do it ?
It goes without saying that America does not need Russia for much of anything outside of titanium, but our faux enemy China is a different story .
Just what if it was America & China who did it ?
Russia is doomed , because China wants their vast resources so they can make trinkets to sell to their largest customers , America & Canada .


Just an alternative history storyline & Im not accusing Biden or Xi , but there are only 6-8 countries that are capable of stealthy underwater demolitions , so who is responsible ?
Xi gets gas/oil & Biden gets to sell gas to Germany rather than having the Germans buddy up with Russia.
It’s a great plan to wipe Russia out imo .
World Wars are over resources only & thats it .
NATO will be officially at war with Russia by winter this year imo .
WW3 is being played out right now & what if the goal was to eliminate Russia mutually from a American & Chinese point ?
Im not talking about Russia being occupied by China or America , but rather a walled in closed communist state that only survives by supplying cheap natural resources to China , America’s cheap manufacturing hub.
Who knows & it doesn’t matter one way or another , because we will never know or accept the truth in matters this grave .


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posted on May, 2 2023 @ 12:51 AM
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a reply to: Whiskermegistus

Well that is certainly an idea ya got there.
And tbh makes a whole lot of sense.
I'm actually surprised to not have heard that hypothetical scenario yet.




posted on May, 2 2023 @ 01:50 AM
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Nope.



posted on May, 2 2023 @ 02:09 AM
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What if it was aliens ? Guatemala ?



posted on May, 2 2023 @ 04:11 AM
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a reply to: Whiskermegistus
The good news is you know exactly who blew it up. You will never tell us the honest answer, but we never come to expect much from the next official narrative account.

Algorithm checked.



posted on May, 2 2023 @ 04:16 AM
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What if....




posted on May, 2 2023 @ 04:17 AM
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Biden did it and even bragged about it. Just like he bragged about shutting down an investigation in Ukraine by threatening to withhold funding.



posted on May, 2 2023 @ 06:48 AM
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originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: Whiskermegistus

Well that is certainly an idea ya got there.
And tbh makes a whole lot of sense.
I'm actually surprised to not have heard that hypothetical scenario yet.

There are always plans within plans.
Or after Biden said he was going to shut off the pipeline, China secretly went & did it hoping that NATO & Russia would go to war over it ?
China then sits back as it’s enemies destroy (weaken)
each other as it provides war supplies to Russia ?

Who knows , but it was a serious event that is mysterious.



posted on May, 2 2023 @ 06:49 AM
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originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: Whiskermegistus
The good news is you know exactly who blew it up. You will never tell us the honest answer, but we never come to expect much from the next official narrative account.

Algorithm checked.
What do you think I know ?



posted on May, 2 2023 @ 06:53 AM
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originally posted by: StraightFacts
Biden did it and even bragged about it. Just like he bragged about shutting down an investigation in Ukraine by threatening to withhold funding.
I mentioned this in my opening post .



posted on May, 2 2023 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
What if it was aliens ? Guatemala ?



Ummm...OR...Illegal Guatemalian aliens...

The horror...



YouSir



posted on May, 2 2023 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: Whiskermegistus




Well that is certainly an idea ya got there.


Ummm...it is an idea...


And tbh makes a whole lot of sense.


Ummm...to you...natch...


I'm actually surprised to not have heard that hypothetical scenario yet.


Of course you are...

Surprise...

This has got to be the single most...logic defying...ignorance inducing...scenario...in a long line of 3 letter generated scenarios laughingly coined to bamboozle...the easily bamboozled...

Bar none...


Clown...marries world...









YouSir



posted on May, 2 2023 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: YouSir

Well this is a conspiracy forum so there is that.
And it honestly is not that far-fetched of an idea.
And since we don't have hard proof of who the perpetrators are, why dismiss the idea?

Unless you know something we don't.
If so please do add to the thread.





posted on May, 2 2023 @ 12:08 PM
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What if it was France?

The word "sabotage" is French.

Coincidence?



posted on May, 2 2023 @ 12:38 PM
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originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: YouSir

Well this is a conspiracy forum so there is that.
And it honestly is not that far-fetched of an idea.
And since we don't have hard proof of who the perpetrators are, why dismiss the idea?

Unless you know something we don't.
If so please do add to the thread.





Ummm... I thought the ATS motto was to DENY ignorance...not promulgate it...

It honestly...is...a farfetched idea...one not worth consideration...

But here you are...considering it...

I'll personally go with the...most...plausible theory...which is the Seymour Hirsch expose...not the least plausible...

But that's just me...doing the logic thing...



YouSir



posted on May, 2 2023 @ 01:36 PM
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maybe but i dont see why they would do that, that pipeline wasn't even being used by Europe anyway so that would be pointless, it makes more sense to be russia with the intent of dividing Europe and America by accusing us, not only that but it would also create more division between more right wing pro Russian types and more liberal pro Western types in Western nations and it did exactly both those things so now its a sore subject between allies and everyone refuses to talk about it.



posted on May, 2 2023 @ 02:59 PM
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I heard a theory that they are trying to get all the anglo Saxon countries to destroy themselves. Then they can just clean house. They have billions of people to rule and take over as the new world order.



posted on May, 3 2023 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: YouSir

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: Whiskermegistus




Well that is certainly an idea ya got there.


Ummm...it is an idea...


And tbh makes a whole lot of sense.


Ummm...to you...natch...


I'm actually surprised to not have heard that hypothetical scenario yet.


Of course you are...

Surprise...

This has got to be the single most...logic defying...ignorance inducing...scenario...in a long line of 3 letter generated scenarios laughingly coined to bamboozle...the easily bamboozled...

Bar none...


Clown...marries world...









YouSir
The truth many times is the least believable . It’s just a theory & if America did it , why would Biden foretell of the plan on National television ?



posted on May, 3 2023 @ 12:22 PM
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the only group winning in the current state of things is China, US and their allies are burning through reserves of ammo like their are no other threats on the horizon.

China gets to reap the benefit of a desperate russia which helps boost chinas flagging energy sector.

forcibly reuniting china and taiwan becomes more likely the fast we strip our war making capability by front loading ukraine.



posted on May, 3 2023 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

I don't think defending Taiwan would require artillery and tanks.

The US has quite an arsenal of alternative weaponry that is not being expended in Ukraine.



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