Gun Violence Is Actually Worse in Red States. It’s Not Even Close

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The title and the article comes from Politico. They did a very thorough look at gun violence in America, and it's a very long read. I will only post the first couple of paragraphs here to show how the rest goes.

Set aside some time to read the whole thing before you respond emotionally. The article is full of data and info-graphics, commenting without reading it all won't do anyone any favors.

...the region the Big Apple comprises most of is far and away the safest part of the U.S. mainland when it comes to gun violence, while the regions Florida and Texas belong to have per capita firearm death rates (homicides and suicides) three to four times higher than New York’s. On a regional basis it’s the southern swath of the country — in cities and rural areas alike — where the rate of deadly gun violence is most acute, regions where Republicans have dominated state governments for decades.

If you grew up in the coal mining region of eastern Pennsylvania your chance of dying of a gunshot is about half that if you grew up in the coalfields of West Virginia, three hundred miles to the southwest. Someone living in the most rural counties of South Carolina is more than three times as likely to be killed by gunshot than someone living in the equally rural counties of New York’s Adirondacks or the impoverished rural counties facing Mexico across the lower reaches of the Rio Grande.

Do you disagree with Politico? Do you have any research of your own that can stand against theirs?

I think it's easy to get emotional and get riled up when politicians strike the right chords, that's their job after all, but reality looks quite a bit different. The states that have been red the longest have among the highest gun violence rates in the nation, despite what politicians try to say and score on.

Learn the facts, get educated, deny ignorance.

a reply to: Mahogany

It all comes from Blue Cities.


Bad Neighborhoods: 5% Of Counties Responsible For 73% ALL Of America’s Murders

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Bad neighborhoods: 1% of counties responsible for 42% of America’s murders

www.washingtontimes.com...

Homicide rates have spiked, but most of America has remained untouched.

Only a tiny fraction of U.S. counties account for nearly all of the country’s homicides, according to research released Tuesday that showed a striking concentration where killings take place.

The worst 31 counties — generally urban jurisdictions — have about a fifth of the country’s population but accounted for 42% of the country’s homicides in 2020, said John R. Lott Jr., president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, which conducted the study.

The worst 5% of counties accounted for 73% of homicides. That ticked up slightly from 69% in 2014 and 70% in 2016.

Meanwhile, 52% of counties recorded no homicides in 2020, and another 16% recorded only a single killing.

“Murder isn’t a nationwide problem. It’s a problem in a small set of urban areas, and even in those counties murders are concentrated in small areas inside them, and any solution must reduce those murders,” he wrote in his report.

Living in NJ, very close to NY City, there are shootings, violence and all the rest of it every single day, it never stops.
And Texas is being swamped with illegals running over our border.
And that is a fact.
Close The Borders, deport all undocumented, and then we'll take another look.

Yeah Chicago, New York, Oakland, and San Francisco are very safe. LMAO!

a reply to: infolurker
Ouch
That graph is racist

originally posted by: RonnieJersey
Living in NJ, very close to NY City, there are shootings, violence and all the rest of it every single day, it never stops.
And Texas is being swamped with illegals running over our border.
And that is a fact.
Close The Borders, deport all undocumented, and then we'll take another look.

I live in Texas and have seen no uptick in illegals. Maybe they just hide their tattoos better now.

What part of Texas did you observe this?

Here is just one example of Texas having illegal problems, been reading about this for the last 2 years, this one happens to be El Paso, Texas, where it 'looks like a third world country':

nypost.com...

And here is Governor Abbott of Texas, on the illegal problem:

www.foxnews.com...

a reply to: Mahogany

"Dying from a gunshot" is this another instance where they factor in suicide by gun as part of their stats? They did this once before, and you're probably right, people looking to kill themselves would probably choose their own firearms more than something less certain and slower. And if you add those stats in and call them gun violence, much like "dying with COVID", it makes those statistics look scary.

originally posted by: TXRabbit

originally posted by: RonnieJersey
Living in NJ, very close to NY City, there are shootings, violence and all the rest of it every single day, it never stops.
And Texas is being swamped with illegals running over our border.
And that is a fact.
Close The Borders, deport all undocumented, and then we'll take another look.

I live in Texas and have seen no uptick in illegals. Maybe they just hide their tattoos better now.

What part of Texas did you observe this?

It’s very difficult to imagine how to even answer this.

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: TXRabbit

originally posted by: RonnieJersey
Living in NJ, very close to NY City, there are shootings, violence and all the rest of it every single day, it never stops.
And Texas is being swamped with illegals running over our border.
And that is a fact.
Close The Borders, deport all undocumented, and then we'll take another look.

I live in Texas and have seen no uptick in illegals. Maybe they just hide their tattoos better now.

What part of Texas did you observe this?

It’s very difficult to imagine how to even answer this.

Some posters could be blind. You don't know.

a reply to: Mahogany

Do you disagree with Politico?

Inherently and without hesitation.

The problem with gun statistics is its intentionally muddied.

Gun violence? Does this include suicide? Which historically would be calculated with and results is more than half of the statistic?

Gun crime? Does this include defense? Which historically would be calculated with gun crime an not against?

Learn the facts, get educated, deny ignorance.

Stop pushing a narrative.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Mahogany

"Dying from a gunshot" is this another instance where they factor in suicide by gun as part of their stats? They did this once before, and you're probably right, people looking to kill themselves would probably choose their own firearms more than something less certain and slower. And if you add those stats in and call them gun violence, much like "dying with COVID", it makes those statistics look scary.

Why yes, yes it is. That is a tact frequently used by anti-gun zealots in order to pump up the numbers of "gun violence".

a reply to: Mahogany

I was always of the mind that most gun violence was the result of someone being crazy.

Politico is like reading MAD magazine. If you are old enough to know what that is. Lol!! a reply to: Mahogany

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: TXRabbit

originally posted by: RonnieJersey
Living in NJ, very close to NY City, there are shootings, violence and all the rest of it every single day, it never stops.
And Texas is being swamped with illegals running over our border.
And that is a fact.
Close The Borders, deport all undocumented, and then we'll take another look.

I live in Texas and have seen no uptick in illegals. Maybe they just hide their tattoos better now.

What part of Texas did you observe this?

It’s very difficult to imagine how to even answer this.

Some posters could be blind. You don't know.

I'm still laughing!!

a reply to: Mahogany

68% of counties did not exceed one murder in 2020

www.foxnews.com...

Some 73% of all murders in the U.S. took place in just 5% of counties while 52% of all counties reported no murders at all

"Murders in the United States occur in very small areas, and that concentration has increased since 2014," the study stated. "The concentration in 2020 is now greater than in 2010."

"Murder isn’t a nationwide problem," the study found. "It’s a problem in a small set of urban areas and even in those counties murders are concentrated in small areas inside them, and any solution must reduce those murders."

Illinois’ Cook County, home to Chicago and about 40% of the state’s population, had the highest amount of recorded murders of any location in 2020 with a whopping 775, according to the report.

Cook County was followed by:

Los Angeles County, 691 murders
Harris County, Texas, 537 murders
Philadelphia County, 495 murders
New York City’s five counties, a combined 465 murders
Wayne County, Michigan, 379 murders
Shelby County, Tennessee, 311 murders
Maricopa County, Arizona, 299 murders
Baltimore City county, 291 murders
Dallas County, 281 murders
Marion County, Indiana, 234 murders

Let's break this down and see what we can find in common.....I wonder if it is Democrat's leadership or lack thereof???

Cook County, 775 murders - DEMOCRAT
Los Angeles County, 691 murders - DEMOCRAT
Harris County, Texas, 537 murders DEMOCRAT
Philadelphia County, 495 murders - DEMOCRAT
New York City’s five counties, a combined 465 murders - DEMOCRAT
Wayne County, Michigan, 379 murders - DEMOCRAT
Shelby County, Tennessee, 311 murders - DEMOCRAT
Maricopa County, Arizona, 299 murders - DEMOCRAT
Baltimore City county, 291 murders - DEMOCRAT
Dallas County, 281 murders - DEMOCRAT
Marion County, Indiana, 234 murders - DEMOCRAT


See a pattern here?

a reply to: infolurker

Politico had to use thousands of words to torture the data, to make it fit their view of America.

Your thread demonstrates how simple it is to show truth: www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: TXRabbit

originally posted by: RonnieJersey
Living in NJ, very close to NY City, there are shootings, violence and all the rest of it every single day, it never stops.
And Texas is being swamped with illegals running over our border.
And that is a fact.
Close The Borders, deport all undocumented, and then we'll take another look.

I live in Texas and have seen no uptick in illegals. Maybe they just hide their tattoos better now.

What part of Texas did you observe this?

It’s very difficult to imagine how to even answer this.

Some posters could be blind. You don't know.

That gave me a real, honest to goodness belly laugh

So you haven't witnessed this personally? You're just regurgitating "news" reports?

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Mahogany

"Dying from a gunshot" is this another instance where they factor in suicide by gun as part of their stats? They did this once before, and you're probably right, people looking to kill themselves would probably choose their own firearms more than something less certain and slower. And if you add those stats in and call them gun violence, much like "dying with COVID", it makes those statistics look scary.

Why yes, yes it is. That is a tact frequently used by anti-gun zealots in order to pump up the numbers of "gun violence".

I think more liberals are buying guns, because the number of calls coming in to the National "988" hotline from Democrat areas is steadily increasing. We can count their self-termination by firearm as "violence". Whatever works.