The West Is Preparing for Russia’s Disintegration

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: rounda

Senator Barack Obama opened a bio-chemical weapons laboratory in Ukraine in 2010.

Obama was President and not a Senator in 2010.

Getting the simple things wrong, is usually a sign of ...................you know what.

Read it again.

Planning began in 2005, when Obama was Senator. The article was written in 2010 when the facility opened.

a reply to: rounda

Nope. Because there are no US biochemical weapons labs in Ukraine.

But there are Russian ones in Russia, which you steadfastly choose to ignore.

Why's that?

Putin wanted less NATO on his borders.

Now that he has gone all out invady, he's getting more.

Finland, for just one example.

Boo hoo. It's soooo unfair....

a reply to: rounda

I think you need to read again what you wrote.

I quote " Senator Barack Obama opened a bio-chemical weapons laboratory in Ukraine in 2010"

Was Obama opening anyting in 2010 as a Senator ? No, because he wasn't a Senator in 2010.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: rounda

Nope. Because there are no US biochemical weapons labs in Ukraine.

Except the one i just showed you.

And probably countless others, either under black budget funding or privately funded defense contractors.

It's cool, keep suckling away at the industrial war complex's tit.

Towe that line, brother. You're doing God's work.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: rounda

I think you need to read again what you wrote.

I quote " Senator Barack Obama opened a bio-chemical weapons laboratory in Ukraine in 2010"

Was Obama opening anyting in 2010 as a Senator ? No, because he wasn't a Senator in 2010.

Read the article i'm referencing.

"Lugar said plans for the facility began in 2005 when he and then Senator Barack Obama entered a partnership with Ukrainian officials. Lugar and Obama also helped coordinate efforts between the U.S and Ukrainian researchers that year in an effort to study and help prevent avian flu. "

I know you're quoting me, but the article is right there for you to read with the relevant information.

originally posted by: rounda

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: rounda

I think you need to read again what you wrote.

I quote " Senator Barack Obama opened a bio-chemical weapons laboratory in Ukraine in 2010"

Was Obama opening anyting in 2010 as a Senator ? No, because he wasn't a Senator in 2010.

Read the article i'm referencing.

"Lugar said plans for the facility began in 2005 when he and then Senator Barack Obama entered a partnership with Ukrainian officials. Lugar and Obama also helped coordinate efforts between the U.S and Ukrainian researchers that year in an effort to study and help prevent avian flu. "

I don't have to read anything to know that Obama was not a Senator in 2010. Unless you know diffferent.

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: rounda

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: rounda

I think you need to read again what you wrote.

I quote " Senator Barack Obama opened a bio-chemical weapons laboratory in Ukraine in 2010"

Was Obama opening anyting in 2010 as a Senator ? No, because he wasn't a Senator in 2010.

Read the article i'm referencing.

"Lugar said plans for the facility began in 2005 when he and then Senator Barack Obama entered a partnership with Ukrainian officials. Lugar and Obama also helped coordinate efforts between the U.S and Ukrainian researchers that year in an effort to study and help prevent avian flu. "

I don't have to read anything to know that Obama was not a Senator in 2010. Unless you know diffferent.

Good for you. Congrats. The article is still right there for you to read.

And if the source material is right there, any errors I make in referencing that material can be checked and the meaning of what I typed inferred.

That's what a brain is for.

a reply to: rounda


And you are doing Russia's work.

Still no comment on Russia's programme?

How hypocritical.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: rounda


And you are doing Russia's work.

Still no comment on Russia's programme?

How hypocritical.

I'm not playing the whatabout game. The US and it's NATO cronies are the aggressors here, and have been for some time.

You wanted proof of US biolabs in Ukraine, I gave it to you.

You still towe the line.

originally posted by: rounda

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: rounda


And you are doing Russia's work.

Still no comment on Russia's programme?

How hypocritical.

I'm not playing the whatabout game. The US and it's NATO cronies are the aggressors here, and have been for some time.

You wanted proof of US biolabs in Ukraine, I gave it to you.

You still towe the line.

Damn the US for invading Ukraine.

Wait...

a reply to: rounda


It's not a what about game. Just pure hypocrisy.

What about game was bringing up Cuba.

You provided no proof.

Plenty of proof of Russian ones.

And their actually using said weapons.

a reply to: rounda

"You still towe the line."

Not Russia's.

a reply to: paraphi

My brother is a Nigerian Prince, if anyone's interested?

Can you tell him to please stop spamming me?! I don't want his monopoly money!

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: rounda


Lots of countries have biological research labs. For biological research.

That does not make them bioweapons labs.

Cmon man... No one's that naive.

a reply to: Timber13

Biological research is a thing. Into crop diseases and such.

I did biology at school, some research was involved. Don't recall making any bioweapons.

It doesn't just = bioweapons?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Timber13

Biological research is a thing. Into crop diseases and such.

I did biology at school, some research was involved. Don't recall making any bioweapons.

It doesn't just = bioweapons?

Absolutely. We have colleges everywhere in the US that have these same facilities you speak of. ...and I do mean EVERYWHERE.


So... why do we have these in other countries again? Wuhan? Ukraine?

I don't believe for one minute that these are harmless "crop bacteria" by any stretch of the word.

Great way to Piss off another country though. Your opponent drops a bio facility right in the middle of a country you're trying to keep from becoming a threat to your own that used to be part of you.

I can see why they're pretty upset. No matter what color the building is.


That's like turning your neighbor against someone and handing them a gun for effect.

a reply to: Timber13

So, if there are these dreadful bio weapons labs in Ukraine it's probably a bad idea to indiscriminately bomb the hell out of them?

Then, there is the fact that Russia has many actual bio weapons labs nearby?

And have used nerve agents in my home city.

A few hundred yards from me at the time.

That seriously pissed me and the UK at the time.

And the radioactive Polonium trail left in London after they poisoned Litvenyenko.

And such.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

And your government did nothing.

Makes you wonder who's more evil?

Or would that be cowardice?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
So, if there are these dreadful bio weapons labs in Ukraine it's probably a bad idea to indiscriminately bomb the hell out of them?

From the link originally posted by @rounda, I think, in an attempt to perpetuate the Russian propaganda point of US bioweapon facilities. The link provides enough material to do a bit of digging.

The US provided funds to Ukraine to set up facilities to properly dispose of nuclear and biological (weapons) waste left by Russia when the Soviet Union collapsed. I think the US also supported Russia in this regard too. These labs are disposal facilities clearing up Russia's mess because they were unable, unwilling or too broke to fund the facilities themselves.

Come on, deny ignorance. Stop being used to perpetuate Russian propaganda, and if you post links to try and support your points, at least do the research behind them and don't take them at face value.

originally posted by: Timber13
And your government did nothing.

On the contrary, the UK reacted at the highest political levels against Russia's use of radioactive and nerve agents on British soil to murder their political opponents, and (tragically) kill an innocent member of the public. Made other nations expel Russian diplomats and level sanctions.

Why do you think Russia hates the UK so much? It's because the UK are one of a few countries who are robust in calling them out for their poor behaviour.