Can men get pregnant? Yes they can!!! Men can and do get pregnant.

a reply to: IAMTAT

I know we are all well versed in these rules but just as a reminder:

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Common sense...

I suppose there could be aberrant births out there, rare though they undoubtedly are, where chromosomes are mixed up.

However, men, generally speaking do not, can not, become pregnant, and no amount of impassioned rhetorical flourishes, and wishful thinking will make it so.

Now then... LInks?? If it's just so common, there must be some, right??

www.healthline.com...

Is it possible?

Yes, it’s possible for men to become pregnant and give birth to children of their own. In fact, it’s probably a lot more common than you might think. In order to explain, we’ll need to break down some common misconceptions about how we understand the term “man.” Not all people who were assigned male at birth (AMAB) identify as men. Those who do are “cisgender” men. Conversely, some people who were assigned female at birth (AFAB) identify as men. These folks may be “transgender” men or transmasculine people.

What part of the above don't you not get?! It looks like there are several gaps in your understanding of human biology and genetics. You need to catch up with the developments of modern science and medicine.

So a person with a uterus, ovaries and vagina, who self identifies as a man, continues to biologically function as a women per the standard medical definitions of gender.

Meanwhile a man who self identifies as a women but lacks the anatomy described above, cannot physically produce their own natural eggs nor gestate an embryo to full term within said anatomy because, again, nonexistent. Like plugging a gas nozzle into your Tesla because it identifies as a Ford.

🤔🤨

You should be more inclusive and you should not say men cannot give birth because it's obviously not the case. Men can and do give birth as long as you understand what a man is. As Ms Rodriguez mentioned there is plenty of bigotry around and the prejudice against specific groups is colossal.

Disagreement isn't bigotry. Bigotry is reducing constitutionally protected freedoms or resorting to overt displays of aggression including physical violence because you don't like people disagreeing with you. People whose only crime is being honest, using their voice the same way hundreds of LGBT activists do. But who is being punished and who is celebrated?

That's bigotry.

Honestly at this point I still can't decide if you're sardonic or sincere. This topic feels like you're doing some kind of social experiment or maybe just shock jockeying for attention.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Common sense...

I suppose there could be aberrant births out there, rare though they undoubtedly are, where chromosomes are mixed up.

However, men, generally speaking do not, can not, become pregnant, and no amount of impassioned rhetorical flourishes, and wishful thinking will make it so.

Now then... LInks?? If it's just so common, there must be some, right??

www.healthline.com...

Is it possible?

Yes, it’s possible for men to become pregnant and give birth to children of their own. In fact, it’s probably a lot more common than you might think. In order to explain, we’ll need to break down some common misconceptions about how we understand the term “man.” Not all people who were assigned male at birth (AMAB) identify as men. Those who do are “cisgender” men. Conversely, some people who were assigned female at birth (AFAB) identify as men. These folks may be “transgender” men or transmasculine people.

What part of the above don't you not get?! It looks like there are several gaps in your understanding of human biology and genetics. You need to catch up with the developments of modern science and medicine.

So a person with a uterus, ovaries and vagina, who self identifies as a man, continues to biologically function as a women per the standard medical definitions of gender.

Meanwhile a man who self identifies as a women but lacks the anatomy described above, cannot physically produce their own natural eggs nor gestate an embryo to full term within said anatomy because, again, nonexistent. Like plugging a gas nozzle into your Tesla because it identifies as a Ford.

🤔🤨

You should be more inclusive and you should not say men cannot give birth because it's obviously not the case. Men can and do give birth as long as you understand what a man is. As Ms Rodriguez mentioned there is plenty of bigotry around and the prejudice against specific groups is colossal.

Disagreement isn't bigotry. Bigotry is reducing constitutionally protected freedoms or resorting to overt displays of aggression including physical violence because you don't like people disagreeing with you. People whose only crime is being honest, using their voice the same way hundreds of LGBT activists do. But who is being punished and who is celebrated?

That's bigotry.

Honestly at this point I still can't decide if you're sardonic or sincere. This topic feels like you're doing some kind of social experiment or maybe just shock jockeying for attention.

If you say that transwomen are not women and that men cannot get pregnant then that's bigotry and trabsphobia. I don't know what do you mean by social experiment.

By the way, offline I get a lot of attention.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

And that right there is the most important point made of ALL. It does indeed continue to evolve in a downward spiral towards the pit of hell. That's where it is going, but the speed and time till arrival is growing quite near.

Let's take this a few more steps. The terms man and woman become nonexistent as people are blended into a gray spectrum and so everything becomes unisex as no more privacy per sex or age is allowed anymore. Pronouns become whims of what someone at some point in time wants to be called, or they just disappear, and proper names are used instead except for in personal groups where they will know to call you by your pronoun Xwizerbop. Sports will blend into unisex too, so the traditional female will no longer be able to compete at any level. The smaller/weaker natural female will just revert to the roll of popping out babies as will be her label as their roles in life get set back to around 1000 BC.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

If you say that transwomen are not women...

Trans woman are not woman...they are trans woman... It seems the Asian cultures fixed this a long time ago. Trans get their own classifications as they are biologically different even if mentally they feel they are the other sex. Why is that so hard to understand or accept. Go to Asia and they have zero issues with accepting them as trans and the trans have zero issues with being called trans.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

If you say that transwomen are not women...

Trans woman are not woman...they are trans woman... It seems the Asian cultures fixed this a long time ago. Trans get their own classifications as they are biologically different even if mentally they feel they are the other sex. Why is that so hard to understand or accept. Go to Asia and they have zero issues with accepting them as trans and the trans have zero issues with being called trans.

www.news.uct.ac.za...

Yes, trans women are women

a reply to: IAMTAT

Crazy Train. Enjoy:

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originally posted by: Asmodeus3


Yes, trans women are women

Zero proof of anything lol

You didn't answer my questions... Can I be a dog, or can I be Black or Asian if I'm like a 6'5" Viking? Can I be a Black female then? Can I be 15 again and go back to HS? Can I date a 13 year-old if I say I feel like 13 too. Can a person get full SS at 30 because they think they are 67 now?

If you think any of that is crazy, then can a person who was a man a couple of years ago complete in women's sports today?

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No one is assigned their sex at birth you are either born male or female, only a genetic female can get pregnant or a genetic female who believes she is male. A genetic female can never be male because our sex is determined by our genetic makeup at birth it's not up for debate so men can never get pregnant.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Like what? An "XY Female", that is called Swyer Syndrome.

Swyer Syndrome

And they don't produce ova. They can however gestate with a donated embryo.

We present a 39 year old lady with 46, XY pure gonadal dysgenesis who had a successful pregnancy through in-vitro fertilization by oocyte donation.

. Successful pregnancy in a pure gonadal dysgenesis with karyotype 46 XY patient (Swyer syndrome)

Leave it to The ACLU to leave out the biological abnormality (gonadal dysgenesis) part.

Underhanded, to say the least.

To take the ACLU's logic I could argue Downs Syndrome is normal, and people with the syndrome are indistinguishable from anyone else. All abnormalities surrounding the 21st chromosome are omitted to draw no distinction between them and a typical child.

These XY births are NEVER typical. Always "very rare".

And for a male born with testes and no uterus, never without artificially implanting the equipment needed.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Just, no....

You need to put a /s next time, OMG.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Asmodeus3

What part of the above don't you not get?! It looks like there are several gaps in your understanding of human biology and genetics.

I think it be you who needs to fill in some gaps in understanding.

A man, as in a male human being, is a human who has male reproductive organs. That's the scientific definition. A woman, as in a female human being, is a human which has female reproductive organs. That's the scientific definition.

Period. One does not get to change those definitions because of political correctness.

TheRedneck

Redneck, THANK YOU.

This thread was hurting my brain badly until I read your post. Your explanation is crystal clear... and correct.

The whole "assigned at birth" is redundant to me. Being male "assigned at birth" means being a male (XY chromosomed). PERIOD. Can't be changed. Yes there are chromosomal abnormalities which blur lines, they too cannot be anything different chromosomally. Simple biology, as you state.

The healthline reference is mixing biology with gender politics. A person with a uterus, and having the hormones to sustain a pregnancy is a woman, having XX chromosomes near 100% of the time (save for very rare genetic abnormalities). They can call themselves a "man", but they are not truly a man. They are women, pretending to be men.

The OP touts healthline as if a credible reference. But I believe what we all want to see are actual case studies from peer reviewed journals where a biological male, born without a uterus, ovaries, and a female hormone profile, gets pregnant.

Redneck, I appreciate your sense of reason, and the ability to always express it so well.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Perhaps you may need to think again when you post images of Dr Greta Thunberg. She was awarded a honorary doctorate for her achievements has defended the gender activists for their work. I think she will also agree that men can get pregnant.

And honorary doctorate is about as contrived as a biological males getting pregnant. What ultra liberal woke institute of higher learning gave her a fake doctorate? And in what field of study? lol

So in summary.

To be "assigned at birth" are the words used by the trans lobby as a way to pretend it's a casual decision, which allows a person to disagree at a future time, i.e., to "re" assign themselves. In fact, when a child is born, it's pretty obvious what sex it is.

In some rare cases it may not be so obvious, either due to external appearance, or some internal function not quite right. It is possible that a clinician may make a wrong judgement, but that's not unexpected. These people will be genuinely "intersex" and they have a recognised medical condition, rather than a "feeling". The trans-lobby abuse this section of the community.

But if a woman/girl, with the clear DNA of that sex, decides she is a man, because that's what she "feels", then by extension when she gets pregnant she could argue that she is a male who is pregnant. Thus, if someone said she was a "pregnant woman" then she would have the right to get upset, because she wants to be treated as a man. This situation is leading to the medical profession re-writing their books so as not to offend, so we no longer have "pregnant women", we have "pregnant people".

Similarly, if a man decides they feel like a woman, irrespective of the high numbers of such men taking sexual gratification of such acts, then they must be treated as women. A man who feels like a woman should thus be asked is he was pregnant as a routine, even though it's impossible. Not doing so is discriminatory, and a sign you are a Nazi, or some other slur. Furthermore, as a man that feels like they are a woman they should be allowed to access women's refuges, women's sports and toilets and changing rooms etc... It's bad to challenge them when they prance around as a parody of the sex that they are pretending to be.

People say this is a "complicated" subject. It's not.

originally posted by: davegazi2

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Perhaps you may need to think again when you post images of Dr Greta Thunberg. She was awarded a honorary doctorate for her achievements has defended the gender activists for their work. I think she will also agree that men can get pregnant.

And honorary doctorate is about as contrived as a biological males getting pregnant. What ultra liberal woke institute of higher learning gave her a fake doctorate? And in what field of study? lol

Theology!

I am sure Dr Thunberg doesn't really care if it's in Theology or Physics or Medicine. To be honest it would have been much better if she was awarded the doctorate in physics since she is an expert in climate change. But coming to the topic of this thread, I am sure Dr Thunberg agrees strongly that men can get pregnant.

Y'all act like never heard of a hermaphrodite...

There are only two genders, male and female.

If you believe otherwise, you're brainwashed by the delusion.

Get a reality check up, you won't regret it, like everything else in life.

a reply to: AllAnIllusion

Those chromosomes can get tricky, eh? It's all easy enough when someone has the ideal XX or XY chromosomes, but there are deviations and deformities, so despite the conventional wisdom to the contrary, chromosomes do not tell the whole story.

However, as I understand it, each and every body develops in such a way as to produce eggs (large gametes) or sperm (small gametes) -- never both. This would be the true determinant of sex, even if chromosomes do not conform.

You might be interest in the Güevedoces --

In the Dominican Republic, güevedoces (from Spanish: güevedoce, from Dominican Spanish güevos a los doce "testicles at twelve") are children with a specific type of intersexuality. Güevedoces are classified as girls when they are born but, around the age of 12, they start developing male genitalia. This is due to a deficiency in the production of 5α-reductase, an enzyme involved in the metabolism of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone. The same phenomenon occurs in Papua New Guinea, where it is called kwolu-aatmwol (literally 'a female thing changing into a male thing') by the Sambia people,and in Turkey. Anne Fausto-Sterling states that güevedoces (as well as people in Papua New Guinea with 5α-reductase deficiency) "are recognised as a third sex" by their cultures, while the cultures "nevertheless recognize only two gender roles".

I won't say that sex is "fluid," but it's a little more complicated than it seems on the surface!