Gay Soldiers in the US Military

Would you want to be in a foxhole with this gay soldier? Not me brother, Gays have no business being frontline soldiers. If they want to cook meals, do accounting, work on supplies, sew patches or paint the barracks as a civilian contractor...thats fine, but not in a combat MOS.

Its all about unit morale, if theres a Homo in the ranks, it makes the rest of us soldiers feel uncomfortable. I was a soldier in a combat MOS and I know what Im talking about. If there was even a rumor a fellow soldier is Gay...he would have been put thru the wringer by us fellow soldiers until he quits. We have ways of making an outsiders life a living Hell.

Sound cruel? Than your learning a little something today about a soldiers mentality. In the US Army, there are many times that your very close to your fellow soldier...you shower together, excercise together, eat together, sleep together and work together. Hell, Ive huddled close to a fellow soldier when it was -21 below zero in Germany and we were left out in the field overnight by accident (Reforger 1981).

So, its not like an office job where you see a gay co-worker and say Hi, work together and than go to your separate homes at the end of the day. In the military...your tied at the hip with your fellow soldier.

So, this little Homo needs to Shut-Up, take his Honerable dischage and find an office job in the civilian world. Theres no place for his kind in my Army.....maybe he can go join the Canadian Army.

Anyhow, Heres the link:

apnews.myway.com...

Maximu§

Thank you for that quality 'insight' LA_M

So, this little Homo needs to Shut-Up, take his Honerable dischage and find an office job in the civilian world

This post has nothing to do with Terrorism. It should be moved to an opinion or debate forum. Next.

I find this thread very insulting, my husband was a Marine for 22 years and he never had an issue with gay fellow Marines and "they were in the military back then".

LA_Maximus this is not a very nice thread.

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I fail to see how someone's sexual preference impacts their ability to kill the enemy. I have a gay friend who is probably one of the best paintball players ever. If I had to choose someone to be in a foxhole with me, it would probably be him.

I don't really understand how you can assume someone's combat capability based on some steriotype. Not all gays are perfume wearing, limp wristed women with a penis.

What a hateful little troll you are. I see you have moved on to another group.

So this man... is wounded in Iraq... fighting the war you support...

yet you feel the need to insult him based on his sexual orientation?

What ever happened to "support our troops"? does it not apply to homosexuals?!

You really make me sick.

Thats pathetic BS. I also have gay pals. And on the frontline they are just as worthy as any other soldier. Infact maybe more so. They are just as good, maybe better.
Grow up already. If a gay guy makes you nervous, maybe you should rethink your sexuality.

this is pretty sad man.. think about it, not all gay people want to have sex with everyone of the same sex.. they aren't just gonna jump on you in the showers... they would be just as proffessional as you and as long as he can do his job, their is no reason for sexual orientation to even be brought up... In one way this is beneficial.. if there is ever a draft in the USA.. just pinch the CO's @55...

Sounds to me like you're homophobic. You're afraid you'd enjoy sharing a foxhole with this guy.

Why else would you post the picture, right?


As a man, I only care about one penis. Mine. Anything you want to do with your own is your business and up to you.

My question to you is, why are you focusing on this man's penis instead of on his service to his country?


Answer: Because you want it.

Toodle-oo.

jako

First, I'm not defending a "homophobic" mindset here or insulting gays. That being said:

I can understand not caring about a gay being in the Army if it were just the fighting part, but like LA said, you have to constantly be together. I mean, face it, no matter how "Open minded" you claim to be, would you want to shower with a homosexual person who might be attracted to you? Or huddle with them? They seperate men and women in the army for these very same reasons.

Like I said before, if you are hunting for gays and lesbian you are on a mission, I spend 22 years as a military wife and everything said about been bundle and been object of attention by somebody of the same sex, will only happen if you encourage the attention any where else you are.

Any way you put it is nothing more than slander and BS and hate propaganda against gays and lesbian plain and simple, the true colors of some are really shining true.

Shame, shame, shame.

LOL

Herman is the only one who really read my thread. I mean really read it. Its not about hating Gays, its about not letting them serve in parts of the military where morale may be affected.

Marg, No Shame here. I have Gay friends and family members, but I would never want them in the US Army with me. Its a whole different world being a soldier. Its not your typical "day-at-the-office"

Those of you who insulted me can go to Hell! Your all too quick to insult people, but never take the time to really read and understand WTF their talking about.

You skim over the highlights and start tearing into them. Bill Clinton forced this Gay policy on the military and we've never been comfortable with it....in fact the US Marines never accepted it.

Your right Marg, this is not a good thread. As a military person I expected you to understand more than these civilians.

Maximu§




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Being on Active duty in the Navy, I am on a ship and there are gays and lesbians, and one of my Co-workers is a flambouyantly gay. The irony is, he is ex-special forces and would be considered a "man's man". He doesn't bother me, it's those that know I am straight and hit on sailors that are obviously straight and repeatively ask them out. I am too old and fat now to be asked out on dates anymore (except by older and fatter women), but it's that 18-19 years old naive straight guy, whom some the gay guys knows is straight but continuely hit on them. Then it is a problem.

Well LA, some of the responses you got are classic examples of people's self righteousness blinding them and causing them to see anything at all that might seem to be negative towards gays, and immediately jump in trying to 'save the day' and promote so-called equality. It's these same people who are in favor of things like affirmative action, and granting women and minorities scholorships for being women or minorities. They fail to look at the other side of the coin, and accuse you of doing the same thing. I'm sure there are some tough gay guys, but that's not the point. We seperate men and women in the front lines for these same reasons. Don't you (The people lashing out against LA), agree that forcing a straight man to shower or huddle with someone who might have sexual desires for him is unfair?

Please...there have been and no doubt will continue to be Gay people on the frontline.

Personally...if I was in a foxhole with rounds whizzing all around my head all I'd be concerned about was if my hole-mate could shoot straight...not whether he WAS straight...

Originally posted by alien
Please...there have been and no doubt will continue to be Gay people on the frontline.

Personally...if I was in a foxhole with rounds whizzing all around my head all I'd be concerned about was if my hole-mate could shoot straight...not whether he WAS straight...

hole-mate

During my stint in the Navy, I was in a PreCommision Unit while waiting for my ship to be commissioned. I spent part of that time living in an open-bay barracks in Norfolk. If you don't know what I mean, think one large room. But this one was divided with those cubicle walls and the big 'ole lockers. (vets and active duty know what I'm talking about) Anyway, the room was divided in such a way that each "cubicle" had 4 racks (bunks) in it, so there were 4 "roomates" per cubicle.

Now, I consider myself conservative with liberal tendacies, and this was right about the time "Don't ask, don't tell" was coming out. I don't really give a crap personally if there was a gay guy with me, so long as he understood I'm straight and didn't hit on me.

Anyway, one day after working in the warehouse, I'm heading back to my lovely homestead, and there is a huge crowd standing at the end of one of the "cubicles". I ask what's going on, and it turns out that the one dude in there placed a love letter to another guy on his rack, and the MAA (security) was there to take him out of the berthing.

Why security? Because the 50 or so guys hanging out there wanted to kick this dude's ass. They were there to protect him.

I have no idea what happend to that guy, but this incident changed my viewpoint on gays in the military. I seriously doubt if we will ever get to a point where this attitude will not prevail in the military. That just goes with the territory. As such, homosexuals in the military will create an unneccary distraction. I feel this is unfortunate, but don't see a logical alternative.

Actually a homosexual would increase troop morale since they are quite funny. Well at least the gays that I know. Were always having a blast of a time.

Maybe LA_Maximus is a tad bit jealous because a homo won a metal and a straight did not.

Feeling a little insecure? I think you protest a little tooo much LA_Maximus, if you know what I mean. I was in the Army for six years, from the US to Korea to Iraq. I don't have a problem with gays in the military. If someone is going to save my life, or even take my duty when I need a day covered, I don't care who they are. People will always find some reason to hate, I'm sure their is a small population who wants nothing but white males in the military. Unfortunately, sometimes they post on this board.