Swim England bans transwomen from competing in the female category

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LOUGHBOROUGH, Leicestershire, UK – Just two weeks after World Athletics banned transgender women from competing in track and field, another organization has pulled the plug on trans women competing in swim meets with other women.

Swim England updated its “Transgender and Nonbinary Competition Policy” Monday to reflect that starting on Sept. 1, only cisgender women will be able to take part on so-called “female teams,” and a new “open” category will be created for nonbinary and trans women swimmers and anyone else who wants to compete outside of the binary, cisgender-based categories.

The organization stated, “Swim England believes that the restriction of certain competition to birth sex females to be justified and proportionate in the pursuit of fair competition,” and claims its new policy “has inclusion and fairness at its very heart,” but trans inclusion advocates criticized the move as exclusionary and disappointing

According to the trans-activists and their lobby groups the decision to ban transwomen from taking part in female swimming competitions is unfair, discriminatory, exclusionary, and disappointing.

In reality, the decision to ban transwomen from female swimming competitions follows the decisions taken by FINA, the world governing body for aquatic sports, that has banned transwomen from taking part in female swimming competitions. World Rugby has also banned transwomen from taking part in the female rugby competitions along with the RFU, the English Rugby governing body. Lately World Athletics followed by UK Athletics votes for banning transwomen from female competitions.

The picture that has emerged is clear and is a massive blow to the claims made online and elsewhere arguing transwomen don't have on average an unfair advantage over biological women. Not that these claims have ever had any merits but misinformation and disinformation can easily propagated online in our modern times.

Transwomen are biological males and hence by definition they have a massive advantage over women when it comes to sporting competitions. Trans-activists and their lobby groups seem to forget or conveniently disregard human biology, genetics, and human physiology, alongside everything else common sense and reality have prevailed.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

ONE DESCRIBES THIS. IS COMMON SENSE AT ITS BEST

originally posted by: musicismagic
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ONE DESCRIBES THIS. IS COMMON SENSE AT ITS BEST

Common sense prevails for once more!

Hooray!
Common sense, and from England of all places!

Where do we show support for this common sense Trans law?

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It's a tough situation , transwomen use testosterone blockers so technically they don't really have an advantage but now they'll have to compete in the male teams who do not use testosterone blockers and so do have an advantage.

Transwomen are biological males

In the womb we are all female until the coin is tossed.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Asmodeus3

It's a tough situation , transwomen use testosterone blockers so technically they don't really have an advantage but now they'll have to compete in the male teams who do not use testosterone blockers and so do have an advantage.

Transwomen are biological males

In the womb we are all female until the coin is tossed.

No that's not true. Having lower testosterone levels doesn't make you a woman. Lowering your testosterone levels doesn't take away your advantages over biological women. You are greatly mistaken.

If transwomen want to take part in male sports they don't need to lower their testosterone levels.

You have confused your arguments I am afraid.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

You are greatly mistaken.

testosterone helps boys develop male features like body and facial hair, deeper voice, and muscle strength.

Swimming and athletics are all about muscle strength , and boobies crate drag in the water.

If transwomen want to take part in male sports they don't need to lower their testosterone levels.

If they did that they wouldn't be transwomen , they'd be blokes in froks.

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testosterone helps boys develop male features like body and facial hair, deeper voice, and muscle strength.

The problem is they've already developed their muscle strength by the time they transition and start taking blockers.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You are greatly mistaken.

testosterone helps boys develop male features like body and facial hair, deeper voice, and muscle strength.

Swimming and athletics are all about muscle strength , and boobies crate drag in the water.

If transwomen want to take part in male sports they don't need to lower their testosterone levels.

If they did that they wouldn't be transwomen , they'd be blokes in froks.

That's at the development stage. I am afraid your arguments fail to understand the basics in sex differences. Once you have gone through male puberty the differences become obvious and the advantages are non reversible.

Biological sex depends entirely on the chromosomal make up of an individual. It's the Y chromosome that determines sex and not politics or self-identifications.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You are greatly mistaken.

testosterone helps boys develop male features like body and facial hair, deeper voice, and muscle strength.

Swimming and athletics are all about muscle strength , and boobies crate drag in the water.

If transwomen want to take part in male sports they don't need to lower their testosterone levels.

If they did that they wouldn't be transwomen , they'd be blokes in froks.

You are again mistaken in your last part. Anyone in our days can identify as a woman without the need of medical supervision, hormonal 'therapy' or surgery. Just state you identify as a woman and that will be all.

Classical exams of this absurdity is the recent case of a male Canadian powerlifter who entered a female competition just by staying he was a woman and SMASHED all records.

He did it to prove how absurd the transgender ideology is. He was allowed to participate as a transwoman. Clearly this is a male who has had no surgery and no hormonal 'therapy'.

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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You are greatly mistaken.

testosterone helps boys develop male features like body and facial hair, deeper voice, and muscle strength.

Swimming and athletics are all about muscle strength , and boobies crate drag in the water.

If transwomen want to take part in male sports they don't need to lower their testosterone levels.

If they did that they wouldn't be transwomen , they'd be blokes in froks.

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World Athletics has banned transgender women from competing in the female category at international events.

The governing body's president, Lord Coe, said no transgender athlete who had gone through male puberty would be permitted to compete in female world ranking competitions from 31 March.

Under previous rules, World Athletics required transgender women to reduce their amount of blood testosterone to a maximum of 5nmol/L, and stay under this threshold continuously for a period of 12 months before competing in the female category.

Lord Coe added the decision was "guided by the overarching principle which is to protect the female category.

Just to remind you that transgender women have begun banned from a range of sports as they are biologically men and have massive advantages over women.

originally posted by: gortex
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It's a tough situation

No, it actually isn't...

transwomen use testosterone blockers so technically they don't really have an advantage

Please stop spreading lies. That is one of those most ignorant claims coming from those supporting the radical trans agenda, and it is pure and total bull#.

Whatever their current testosterone levels, men have a much larger skeletal/bone frame and musculature, and years or even decades of testosterone blockers will have essentially ZERO effect on this native advantage.

One potential exception would be a small male child that had been on puberty and testosterone blockers their entire life, which would be criminal abuse by any sane/rational standard.

but now they'll have to compete in the male teams who do not use testosterone blockers and so do have an advantage.

Tough titties (pun intended).

"Transwomen are biological males"

In the womb we are all female until the coin is tossed.

Which has about as much relevancy to what is being discussed as bringing up dino DNA has with respect to genetic manipulation of plants.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Just to remind you that transgender women have begun banned from a range of sports as they are biologically men and have massive advantages over women.

Fully aware of that I just find it amusing that it's women who are complaining following decades of women campaigning for trans rights , perhaps female athletes could rise to the challenge rather than complaining about competition.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Just to remind you that transgender women have begun banned from a range of sports as they are biologically men and have massive advantages over women.

Fully aware of that I just find it amusing that it's women who are complaining following decades of women campaigning for trans rights , perhaps female athletes could rise to the challenge rather than complaining about competition.

I don't know what you are trying to say here. The reality is that transwomen have been banned from participating in a range of sports and rightfully so. They should have never been allowed to participate in the first place and this shows precisely the delusional identify politics that have no place in sports, science, or in the classroom.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Asmodeus3

It's a tough situation

No, it actually isn't...

transwomen use testosterone blockers so technically they don't really have an advantage

Please stop spreading lies. That is one of those most ignorant claims coming from those supporting the radical trans agenda, and it is pure and total bull#.

Whatever their current testosterone levels, men have a much larger skeletal/bone frame and musculature, and years or even decades of testosterone blockers will have essentially ZERO effect on this native advantage.

One potential exception would be a small male child that had been on puberty and testosterone blockers their entire life, which would be criminal abuse by any sane/rational standard.

but now they'll have to compete in the male teams who do not use testosterone blockers and so do have an advantage.

Tough titties (pun intended).

"Transwomen are biological males"

In the womb we are all female until the coin is tossed.

Which has about as much relevancy to what is being discussed as bringing up dino DNA has with respect to genetic manipulation of plants.

I have already answered the claims made by the member but it seems he/she is engaged in transgender activism and politics which are at odds with common sense and reality.

Bringing up testosterone levels and ignoring all the advantages gained via male puberty shows precisely the level of arguments made disregarding completely human biology and physiology.

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That’s life, as the old saying goes...

originally posted by: gortex
perhaps female athletes could rise to the challenge rather than complaining about competition.

The best women's football team on the planet would get absolutely rinsed by the under-19 welsh men's team.

A top 500 male tennis player would obliterate any top 10 ranked woman.

The best mma female champion would get murdered by the same weight rando male.

No woman will EVER run under 10 seconds in the 100m.

But if they just tried a bit harder when men enter their competition...

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The best mma female champion would get murdered by the same weight rando male.

Yeah, not even close

Correction. Swim England does not ban transwomen from competing, only not in female (women's) competition. Transwomen can compete with the men. Transmen, i.e. born female, can compete with the women, so long as they have not soiled their bodies with testosterone and other drugs.

This is fantastic news for women, their rights and the public who want fair sports. Just hope other sporting organisations can grow some (er) balls, and do the right thing, eh?

Only athletes who have declared a birth sex of female will compete in the ‘female’ category.

Swim England

originally posted by: paraphi
Correction. Swim England does not ban transwomen from competing, only not in female (women's) competition. Transwomen can compete with the men. Transmen, i.e. born female, can compete with the women, so long as they have not soiled their bodies with testosterone and other drugs.

This is fantastic news for women, their rights and the public who want fair sports. Just hope other sporting organisations can grow some (er) balls, and do the right thing, eh?

Only athletes who have declared a birth sex of female will compete in the ‘female’ category.

Swim England

I don't think anyone said that transwomen are banned from all competitions. Transwomen are banned in many sports from participating in female sports.

The reason for this is due to the fact they are biological males i.e men.