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originally posted by: midicon
a reply to: ketsuko
If there is God, like you believe then I have nothing to fear. I am very kind out here in the 3d world.
originally posted by: ltrz2025
a reply to: randomuser
Is it Christianity, or Peteranity?... In fact, Peter DENIED Jesus. Moreover, there are many passages of the scriptures where Jesus tells the apostles off due to how stupid they were. Be careful what you read, the bible is a mine field.
originally posted by: visitedbythem
originally posted by: ltrz2025
a reply to: randomuser
Is it Christianity, or Peteranity?... In fact, Peter DENIED Jesus. Moreover, there are many passages of the scriptures where Jesus tells the apostles off due to how stupid they were. Be careful what you read, the bible is a mine field.
That is the wonderful mystery of God's love. Peter was warned what he would do beforehand. He was also forgiven and inhabited by the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 16:18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.
Are you paying attention? There is still hope for you, as long as you live. Don't let pride and arrogance get in your way. Seek Christ, and follow him, just as Peter, John, Matthew, and even the pharisee Paul! Now that was an arrogant man. Paul was something else. He and Peter butt heads. The Lord loved them dearly and loves each of us the same. It is up to us to make the choice. There are only two choices: The god of this world (Satan), or the Living God and creator of this Universe and all things seen and unseen. YHWY, Jehovah, Jesus, Yeshua, the great I Am that I Am.
Make the right choice. You are an eternal being, and your destination choice is crucial.
originally posted by: visitedbythem
originally posted by: midicon
a reply to: ketsuko
If there is God, like you believe then I have nothing to fear. I am very kind out here in the 3d world.
Hell will be full of good ol boys and nice people. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Jesus (Yeshua) said " I am the way the truth and the life, no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me".
He didn't make Tartarus for humanity. It was made for fallen angels that left their first abode, many of which had unlawful sex with Human women, producing Nephilim offspring with no soul(spirit only).
originally posted by: midicon
originally posted by: visitedbythem
originally posted by: midicon
a reply to: ketsuko
If there is God, like you believe then I have nothing to fear. I am very kind out here in the 3d world.
Hell will be full of good ol boys and nice people. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Jesus (Yeshua) said " I am the way the truth and the life, no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me".
He didn't make Tartarus for humanity. It was made for fallen angels that left their first abode, many of which had unlawful sex with Human women, producing Nephilim offspring with no soul(spirit only).
I don't believe any of that. For some, perhaps like you, it gives comfort and meaning to their lives. I can see value in that. Some need a crutch as life can be difficult and traumatic. I also see the harm it does and has done throughout history.
'The road to hell is paved with good intentions' could just as easily be 'no good deed goes unpunished'. Pithy sayings prove nothing really and I have no time for those that feel the need to quote such things.
originally posted by: ElGoobero
originally posted by: midicon
originally posted by: visitedbythem
originally posted by: midicon
a reply to: ketsuko
If there is God, like you believe then I have nothing to fear. I am very kind out here in the 3d world.
Hell will be full of good ol boys and nice people. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Jesus (Yeshua) said " I am the way the truth and the life, no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me".
He didn't make Tartarus for humanity. It was made for fallen angels that left their first abode, many of which had unlawful sex with Human women, producing Nephilim offspring with no soul(spirit only).
I don't believe any of that. For some, perhaps like you, it gives comfort and meaning to their lives. I can see value in that. Some need a crutch as life can be difficult and traumatic. I also see the harm it does and has done throughout history.
'The road to hell is paved with good intentions' could just as easily be 'no good deed goes unpunished'. Pithy sayings prove nothing really and I have no time for those that feel the need to quote such things.
if you think Christianity and its beliefs has done harm in history, look at what anti-Christian ideologies have brought about. mass murder in Nazi Germany, Soviet Union, Communist China; multiple terror networks in the Islamic world.
Christianity has given us hospitals, soup kitchens, literacy, work ethic, and 'love your neighbor'.
as for being a crutch; I've never known anyone who didn't need some outside support at some point in their life. some find solace in drugs, alcohol, physical relationships, sports teams, etc. many harmful, none bringing true peace and help.
The Bible by now should be relegated to the speculative philosophy section on the shelf .
originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
Hi ATS,
Have you ever read the Book of the Revelation of St John & wondered why the people refused to turn to God, even when God had proven His existence through miracles, prophecy, signs in the Heavens & the witness of the believers who were trying to share the truth about the blessings they themselves had received? Even when it was made fully apparent to them that they were experiencing a time of testing, challenge, refinement - perhaps even a form of 'living purgatory', to cause them to reconsider their perspective, to encourage them to turn away from their godless, heartless, murderous beliefs, which had been set in context as a literally Satanic worldview inculcated in their hearts & minds in the time before the End of Days came upon the world for real? The descent into corruption that this world has witnessed over the past seventy years is astonishing, even breathtaking when you view it in sequence as a series of steps downwards towards doctrines which are literally Hell-inspired.
How Satanism conquered America
And that's not limited to America, it's all over the Western world. I despair to see videos of girls out on the town on a night out in Manchester, UK, when questioned about abortion rights by a news reporter, these young girls (aged around 23, 24 yrs) literally cackled like witches & started chanting "Kill the f**ing babies, kill the fu**ing babies" to the horror of the reporter. And it's not unique - such mockery of the murder of unborn infants can be found all over social media, and most chilling, in the new Chris Rock Netflix 'COMEDY' special. He literally stands up there on stage & makes joke after joke about how he supports the murder of infants, right up to the nine month mark - and then he 'jokes' about killing them after they're born, a 'late stage abortion'. He elicits screams & roars of laughter from the packed out audience of thousands in Baltimore, hooting & hollering in support of the mockery of the murder of unborn infants.
I had to switch it off, I simply couldn't watch any more, it was brutal, tragic, it cut me to my core, I was shocked. To see so many thousands of people revelling, glorying in the brutal & painful death of unborn infants, who, let us remember, are perfectly viable living beings from the age of 24 weeks gestation in these times of modern technology & comfortable living standards. To see such cruel mockery of the miracle of lilfe, as though they were not a living soul to begin with, as though they were instead some sort of cancerous tumour to be removed, excised from the body of the mother as if they were a malignant growth designed to cause her pain & discomfort, rather than the wonderment of a mother's creation - simply tragic.
When we look at the music industry nowadays, we see the disgusting filth peddled as 'art', with 'artists' openly glorifying Satan, sin & degradation of the sanctity of human life. Perversion, degenerate shock culture, LGBTQPEDO+ affiliated personalities who deliberately lead the children into debasement & sadomasochism before the age of thirteen. We look at the world of children's animation, and we see utterly corrupt & perverse shows designed to warp the minds of the CHILDREN who they are aimed at, even though they are loosely claimed to be 'adult' programmes. The creator of Ren & Stimpy, way back in the 90's, was a paedophile. The guy who created Rick & Morty created a bunch of child rape scenes in his previous commissioned animation work for various TV studios. The show 'Human Resources' is one of the sickening offshoots of the degenerate perverse filth many will be aware of as the animation 'Big Mouth' which is all about 'monsters' who encourage children to masturbate & get involved in perversion & degeneracy. Human Resources is worse than Big Mouth, as if such were even possible - but it is. We look at Hollywood & we see it is propping up Human Trafficking of children, the elite paedophile rings which cruise around in international waters & literally butcher children for snuff movies, island hopping in the genre of Epstein.
This world is so horribly, horribly corrupt at this moment in history, it is literally worse than it has ever been, and sadly it seems as it's a one way street, there seems to be no turning back, we are sliding down a razor's edge to the gates of Hell. The elites are letting all this filth grow, festering beneath the surface, dressing it up as acceptable 'comedy', as 'enlightened' views about 'bodily autonomy' (forgetting the hypocrisy when this argument couldn't be applied to a person's right to refuse mRNA injections).
The left wing views which have been programmed into vast swathes of society also are so extreme in some cases that they border on diagnosable insanity. Christians are mocked, excluded from the national debates, they are pursued vindictively in the courts by activists who scream & rage on behalf of the 0.5% of the population who have genuine gender dysphoria. Any 'watchful waiting' or 'talking therapies' are vehemently protested, in favour of affirmative action to mutilate the bodies of children who have expressed even the merest hint of any weak 'indication' that they are questioning gender roles, or borrowing mum's beads & shoes for dress up one afternoon - suddenly they're trans....
The more I look at what is being permitted, encouraged, supported & promoted towards our children, and with regards to 'acceptable' views on the disposability of human life & the apparent need to pervert the minds of those children we do permit to live, the more I can understand why the End of Days judgments actually are a necessary fact of salvation - people are so damn lost they haven't even the slightest idea that they have been corrupted at such a deep level. It's mainly been achieved, sadly, by the insanity & perversion which is dressed up as comedy, over the past thirty years in particular - a literal wolf in sheep's clothing, something which seems so fun & innocuous - but look where it's taken us now..
It seems to me that the Apocalypse will be a wakeup call for those who have been conditioned into these corrupt & perverse mindsets. It is foretold that they will persist & continue to refuse to repent despite the obvious implications of what is unfolding - until the very end, when finally some will. They are so lost that they question the God who created a beautiful world, who created life itself, who prepared a place for us in Heaven when our work here is done. The mysteries of faith are so far from the minds of ordinary men & women these days that they view God as their enemy, or feel entitled to 'the Universe' doing them all sorts of favours while requiring nothing in return in terms of holiness, peace, grace, humility & so on. Faith, hope & love are what is required of us, with love being the greatest - but solely human love for our friends & relatives isn't enough, in terms of ethical responsibility towards the world & the people around us, not only our friends & family.
I'm not even talking about OP who abuses his spiritual cloak to cover his own demons.
and I find your statement grossly offensive as a result