Boiling Frogs

To kill a frog with boiling water, you must not put the frog directly into boiling water. The frog would immediately jump out. The process is much more subtle. The water must be lukewarm when the frog is put in, and slowly warmed during the frogs occupation in the pot. The frog will little notice the temperature change of the pot, and by the time it realizes its misfortune, it is too late, and you have a boiled frog.

We are all frogs.

XAOS

I have never eaten a frog, or it's legs. Personally I don't like anything food wise that I can pick my teeth with. I am open try it though. But I'm going to gut it first...I don't really care for extras.

Why would you post instructions for boiling frogs?

Because he not refering to really boiling frogs. My guess is xaos is thinking we are frogs. The way we controled by our governments,education,etc. We don't realize anything is wrong until it is too late. We were pot in a pot filled with nice comfy luke warm water,then slowly the heat is turned up. And we are helpless. I am I close??????

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Guess he'll tell more after he reads these posts...
Anyone concider the idea he is useing us as test subjects and wants to see how we would react?

Nah..not xaos I'm sure he really meant cooking frogs to east them.

Cruelty to animals in psych experiments.

Yes, learned helplessness is another interesting phenomenon. When a creature understands after a number of attempts to escape pain or discomfort, that it cannot do so, it will proceed to bear the pain and discomfort even after removal of the invisible obstancle that blocks its path.

If you want fried frog on a stick, take an Indonesian ferry crossing.

Take a frog and boil it? Naw, I like deep fried better. Besides, where you going to find a pot big enough to get a french guy in it? Lol.

Anyways, sounds like a NWO therom. Put the people in lukewarm water, then raise it a little. if no reaction, raise more. Repeat.

You've been hanging around with the french too long.

WELCOME BACK XAOS!

The "boiling a frog" metaphor has been around since before the 1980's. It is a very descriptive metaphor concerning how our liberties are being stripped away from us a little bit at a time (Two steps forward to Fascism, One step back; the result is always towards less liberty). It relies on the short attention span of American people. For example how many of you can remember when SSN's were NOT required on every form you filled out.

[Edited on 22-7-2003 by jagdflieger]

Originally posted by jagdflieger
It relies on the short attention span of American people.

I dont think this is strictly an American trait, but more along the lines of human nature.

Well, at least some people grasped what I was saying.

I was not refering to the use of frogs in a culinary work. Hardly, as I am vegetarian.

I mean quite what nyeff was so kind to guess. Thank you.

I have been overseas for the past year and am still getting used to America. Throughout my aclimatization period I keep getting thinking of the metaphor about boiling frogs that jagdflieger mentioned. I get the odd feeling that duddya's puppeteers are slowly turning up the temperature on us frogs.

Another thing to note: One of my mom's good friends told me of something her friend said. This friend had grown up in Germany during Hitler's era. Her parents were members of the national socialist party, being regular germans and not jews or another minority. She grew up through the changes made by the Third Reich and says that they mirror those made by the Bush Administration.

XAOS

I agree with you xaos, and it only took hitler 6 years to push germany onto a war footing and into poland.

I dont subscribe to the belief that a massive terror attack will occur and we will all lose our rights in a matter of minutes, i find the option you put down, of a gradual decline in rights, far more plausible.

You all should read "Boiling A Frog" by Christopher Brookmyre. He's a Scottish writer, so even if you manage to find the book, you might find it difficult to follow, due to the colloquial dialect, but it is themed around the boiling a frog metaphor.

As for stripping away liberties, this method was hinted at in George Orwell's "Nineteen Eighty Four"...the chocolate ration is decreased one day, and is not annouced widely, then it is increased again, to a lower amount than before. The party publicise this in propaganda, and the people are happy, because they think the are getting a better deal


This could easily happen for real, as people are seldom ever so vigilant as to notice small changes in law, or standard of living

Scottish colloquial dialect...they dont stand a chance.

ach, poor wee weans.

Fried Frog's Legs....taste just like chicken, so why spend the money on Frog? Always wondered that....

As always, an interesting analogy...but at some point, the frog wises up. Of course, in our case, the lid will likely be on tight.....