Tip,.tip, tip, donate donate....

Almost everywhere from Walgreens to taco bell I'm hit with do you want to donate to something or do you want to round up your total.

Today I'm in cookie crumble, lines out the door, business looks booming.

And before I even try the product or get to determine how service is, they ask for a tip right after payment.

You get to click on the screen 15%, 20% 25%, 30%

I passed.

But as I waited and watched, a good majority of people hit 15% or 20%.

What say you??? Tipping and donating out of control?
How do we know these companies dont have contracts where they keep half for use of their services?

It is out of control, but it isn't their fault
The currency is failing, the cost of living is out of control and their wages aren't keeping up.

I've got the same problem, but I don't work in the service industry so I can't supplement with tips.

a reply to: Bloodworth

I will push the 15% button, but only if the cashier is pleasant and doesn't have their hat on backwards.

a reply to: Bloodworth

Tipping and donating are both voluntary activities. I'm not sure I get your point on this.

I've been involved in enough fundraising in my life to know that businesses do not take a cut. That's a myth perpetuated by people who for some reason hate the charities that help so many people. Why people hate charities that help people in need is beyond me.

As far as tips it's part of those people's income. They are typically low-paying jobs but can be good-paying jobs if the worker puts in the effort to attract tips. It's only bad for people who don't care enough to put in the effort in which case they are working in the wrong job.

I declined to round up for a children's charity earlier this year. I only donate for animals or food pantries. Ever since I refused, that particular clerk treats me like #.

Just wondered if anyone else has this problem.

There is an insane level of greed in this country.

Definitely tip those making your food/drinks...if it's good service. The extra dollar is worth prompt service.

"Donating" to multi-billion dollar corporations so they get a tax write off? No way.

Funny how these places make a trillion dollars but need MY money to solve world hunger, dying kids and puppies and kittens.

Yea right. If Apple/Microsoft/Walmart decided to do actually do some good they could have world hunger solutions funded by tomorrow. But no, they need more of our money. Lol gtfoh.

a reply to: SuicideKing33

Funny how these places make a trillion dollars but need MY money to solve world hunger, dying kids and puppies and kittens.

It's just facilitating funds in a world where everyone is super lazy. It's the least you could do probably.

Is it any wonder the likes of Amazon and Uber end up emerging?

Greenpeace are terrorists too... Have you got any loose change to save the world? Lol

I work for tips.

Don't be a cheap f#.

For those that say "tipping is a part of their pay", we arent talking about waiters, tip jars and the tip button on CC machines are EVERYWHERE.
Also, the McDonalds by my house now pays $15 an hour, but they still have three (3) TIP jars lined up down the counter. THREE. I understand and DO tip wait staff at sit down restaurants, but tip jars sitting on every retail counter is getting tiresome.

a reply to: Blaine91555

Just because they don't take a cut : doesn't mean they are doing it for warm and fuzzy reasons.

My story is nothin but hearsay : so not claiming it as always the case.

An accountant told me how they do it.
Let's say the Grocery-Store™ asks every client to chip-in one dollar for a wonderful and worthy children's Foundation™.

They may collect $20k, and give the $20k to the charity : BUT

They claim the $20k as if it is their donation to charity, and so then it's a tax-deduction.

The-Rich™ have been using Charities™ and Foundations™ for over a hundred years, to camouflage their anti-human agendas.

Don't you remember the threads on here, about how after the Haiti earthquake, The-Red-Cross™ collected billions in sympathy cash, and yet rebuilt a grand total of 9 houses, with all the rest of the money gone ?

So when we went into the Asian grocery store two days ago, and some guy was there holding a jar, asking for donations for the " Turkey-Earthquake " : ole Nothin just politely refuses and walks past.

Have no problem giving my spare change to an individual, that is obviously in need.
May be a person in need, maybe a glue-huffer : never sure, but at least it's not a millionaire, or another flavour of crook, stealing it from me.

ETA : there is a province-wide charity here, that does really good community work.
Have seen first-hand the benefits of their work.
But : in a town we were living in, within 10 years : two local presidents of that charity were busted for siphoning money off.

originally posted by: Nothin
They claim the $20k as if it is their donation to charity, and so then it's a tax-deduction.

They can try to claim it and if they are caught it is easily-proven tax evasion. There is a very clear paper trail as the transactions are handled by acquirers and the payment networks.

originally posted by: Nothin
They may collect $20k, and give the $20k to the charity : BUT

They claim the $20k as if it is their donation to charity, and so then it's a tax-deduction.

Negative. A donation at point of sale will never be considered the businesses' money, and they therefore cannot claim it for a tax break.

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
I declined to round up for a children's charity earlier this year. I only donate for animals or food pantries.

Lemme guess... you're "pro-life".

a reply to: Bloodworth

If you ain't tipping in cash it ain't going to the employee anyway as they can't just 'sneak' it when its electric transaction, in fact that's why their paychecks are trash and their minimum is like 2.50 ( however no tips = federal minimum wage, so tipping servers actually hurts the industry as a whole and only benefits the business owner because it means he doesn't have to pay his workers as much).

So lets say someone makes 800$ every 2 weeks, 600 of it is tip money, that means big boss man only pays 200$ while the community pays that employee's wage in tips. It's kinda sad/sickening.. but its the truth. It's been this way for a long long time, so anytime you actually 'tip' its pretty rare that employee actually gets to keep that as a bonus. (Some places do hourly wages and then let them keep tips - but this is rare! Nearly 1 out of 20 named resturants/take out do this!)

If people stopped tipping like it's a requirement, those bosses will have to actually pay their employees. Then the 'tip' can go back to being a 'tip' or bonus..

The mindset of tipping EVERYTHING, really screws over most Resturant employees(even if they don't believe it - their boss is legally required only to pay the difference to meet federal/state minimum wage).

There are very few places like "pizza hut" that lets drivers keep their tips without docking payment - but most of that winds up going to gas(because they get 1dollar per delivery in gas) and repairs aren't covered at all since most(not all, some have company cars) delivery drivers use their own cars.

So I think if you tip anyone you should know wether or not that person will be allowed to keep their tips without being docked, and it just involves a little research, or even asking the server if they get both hourly + tips(be careful if you ask though, an employee can get in trouble and/or fired for admitting the above if they don't - so it's best to check online).

originally posted by: eXia7
I work for tips.

Don't be a cheap f#.

Sorry, but I don't like to tip, PERIOD. It use to be a nickel and dime and quarter tipping in my days, but these days one is talking in real money.

Also, maybe I'm living in a country where tipping ( changing now ), made the people feel like they were a nothing more then a low life beggar. So tipping did not exist.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: Nothin
They may collect $20k, and give the $20k to the charity : BUT

They claim the $20k as if it is their donation to charity, and so then it's a tax-deduction.

Negative. A donation at point of sale will never be considered the businesses' money, and they therefore cannot claim it for a tax break.

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
I declined to round up for a children's charity earlier this year. I only donate for animals or food pantries.

Lemme guess... you're "pro-life".

No, I'm not.

They keep trying to force it here in Australia where it's only been custom that tipping is optional and given for service that was above and beyond the norm.

Maybe you tip if you're just feeling generous. It's offered as a bonus, not begged for.
You shouldn't be rewarded for just doing your damn job.
In Australia it's like f*** off you get paid decent enough. If you aren't take it up with your boss.
It's why we pay so high for the cost of living.
Because our wages don't come out of the bosses pocket, they come out of our own. The 'tip' is part of their actual wage if you want to think about it.

You get a $2 payrise, your bacon and egg mcmuffin goes up to $6AUD ($4USD) I remember when they were like a buck 50.

This is why the rich get richer wile we all seem to always be treading water never getting ahead.
See a return of Unions being pushed in the U.S. LOL

Why did you get rid of them to begin with? Like Australia over time a lot of Unions become businesses themselves, corrupt, self serving. The Union bosses aren't hanging with the workers, they're chilling at the golf course with the bosses.
They all start with good intentions, but the road to hell is paved with those apparently.

Just look at recent years in Victoria, Australia during the covid lockdowns and how the striking protesting workers protesting a forced injection were turned on by the Union they paid to protect them. and plenty more examples in Australia and around the world of that. Where do your fees go. You lose your job wrongfully are they going to fight for you?

Inside the union, some observed what a blunt instrument the government’s directives were. The closure of lunchrooms was significant in a hazardous industry while the mandatory vaccination order did not account for the bubbling tension within the sector.

For some workers, it fed an ever-present sense of victimhood. For others, it pointed to the CFMEU’s lack of influence and input under a leader isolated from much of the labour movement.

Then on Monday came the trigger. Workers hated a proposal pushed by the union for no rest breaks and workers being paid eight hours for six hours’ work. Most construction contractors rejected the push as well.

People walked off their city building sites in their hundreds.

Senior CFMEU figures say far-right activists and anti-vaxxers exploited the situation, but it was wrong to say, as Mr Setka did on Tuesday, that there was “a small minority of construction workers” at Monday’s melee who had quickly walked away because of the violence of “professional protesters”.

Union leader tried saying the protesting workers were a minority and right-winger anti-vaxxers, when that was shown to be false. Plenty of 'liberal' protesters. People from all walks of life, Asian, Indian, Jew, Aboriginal, Caucasian and more.
No singular political side was represented. And for a minority there were certainly thousands of workers protesting....
They focused on the 10% who weren't union members, people who came to support their friends, including people like firemen and paramedics.

Also alleged the Union leader is a 'jobs for the boys' type and hired a bunch of family members and friends into upper Union positions I think?
Remember when the U.S had Unions that were literally run by Mafia?

Inside the insurrection: Why construction workers took to the street

Another one is Coles and the workers union SDA in 2015

It comes after a recent Fairfax investigation uncovered that the SDA pays major retailers including Coles and Woolworths up to $5 million a year in commissions for payroll deductions. The payments help maintain its large membership and influence in Labor where the conservative SDA plays a significant role in social policy debates such as same-sex marriage.

Coles workers worse off under deal with shoppies union

Making deals with supermarkets against their workers best interest. Getting workers underpaid. Playing around in politics not related to the industry.
Does that sound like it's still a Union to you?

You need to do it right. But humans are humans and history repeats.

Then there is the domino effect everyone ignores. Like the mcmuffin above.

You get a payrise. Boss/Shareholders whatever go "oh no. next year instead of making 10 billion we'll only make 9.99billion."
That's not coming out of our profits. So your mcmuffin goes up, because little Jimmy's minimum wage is now 20 bucks.
Then the managers, and every one up to and including the CEO also want a pay rise.
If the peasants can so can we. Co monkey see monkey do.
But as it goes up the chain it get's bigger also. Worker get $2000 more a year, manager get's $20000, regional manager get's 200k, and CEO get's 2 million.

Feels like we took 2 steps forward, but we didn't move. Just some numbers changed but sh*t stays the same.
Except now we've all got more money, the rich folks at the top go "They can afford more now, so let's raise house prices, rent, cost of food. Taxes, etc. etc. so on and so forth. on and on....
You can also try tricking the really stupid sheep and reduce the size of the product, while keeping the price the same.
(Ritz Crackers Australia RIP. Yep they've literally halved the size of the box.)
All good we'll whine a bit about it for a while and nothing else and it'll eventually become our normal.
It's like it has always been this size....

and now your $2000 a year goes towards the $3000 a year increase on your mortgage, and $1000 increase in groceries. And you now owe the government 10k for writing a single digit wrong on a confusing form and not keeping your receipts for the last 10 years.

All while said taxes pay the government to screw you.

And of course Amazon and such make billions in profits. Always unaffected by inflation despite having the most to lose, in theory, unlike we peasants.

Now you're back to square one. You need money. Maybe it's time to ask for a pay rise? Maybe you can stick a jar on the counter and beg for money..... and around and around and around we go.

You will call it inflation and economics, as if it's natural and normal when it's stupid and man made.

Any way, what was I saying? Oh yeah
F*** TIPPING.
Fix your damn society.

Get off your asses and save yourselves. Stop chasing your damn tails.

oh also,

My friend took me out to a new bar/restaurant for my birthday in 2021

Encouraged patrons to do 'electronic ordering' via our smart phones. and the QR code on every table.
Every order, it defaulted to having a 5% tip auto selected. Easy to miss if you're drunk and just clicking through.
You order 10 individual drink orders? That is 5% x10.

Too damn bad if you click the 20% button by mistake lol

On food and drinks that are already at a premium.

No waitress takes your order. No waiter checks on how your going, if you need anything. They just stand by the bar chatting, and only come to you when they're dropping off food and drink. They screwed up our orders anyway, and we ended up going to the bar and placing our orders in person.

Guess what? Not a single tip begged for. Order drink, pay. Done.

GTFOH if you think I'm tipping that kind of service.

Food was pretty average. Place was dressed up as some fancy trendy place, but the food was what I'd call standard pub fair. Literally a fancy pub meal.

I have to work for my money. How about you do to.

ETA: Oh yeah, won't ever go back there. I speak with my wallet. More people should.

originally posted by: AtomicKangaroo
oh also,

My friend took me out to a new bar/restaurant for my birthday in 2021

Encouraged patrons to do 'electronic ordering' via our smart phones. and the QR code on every table.
Every order, it defaulted to having a 5% tip auto selected. Easy to miss if you're drunk and just clicking through.
You order 10 individual drink orders? That is 5% x10.

Too damn bad if you click the 20% button by mistake lol

On food and drinks that are already at a premium.

No waitress takes your order. No waiter checks on how your going, if you need anything. They just stand by the bar chatting, and only come to you when they're dropping off food and drink. They screwed up our orders anyway, and we ended up going to the bar and placing our orders in person.

Guess what? Not a single tip begged for. Order drink, pay. Done.

GTFOH if you think I'm tipping that kind of service.

Food was pretty average. Place was dressed up as some fancy trendy place, but the food was what I'd call standard pub fair. Literally a fancy pub meal.

I have to work for my money. How about you do to.

ETA: Oh yeah, won't ever go back there. I speak with my wallet. More people should.

What kind of restaurant was this? I went to a hibachi restaurant the other week and they automatically put the tip within the bill....

Automatically adding tips to the bill is becoming the norm around here. Usually set at 18%. And even if service sucks its very difficult to get them to take it off. So we always bring cash. Easier to not pay it if the service sucks, which it usually does at places that auto add it as the employees think they get 18% no matter what.

originally posted by: musicismagic

originally posted by: eXia7
I work for tips.

Don't be a cheap f#.

Sorry, but I don't like to tip, PERIOD. It use to be a nickel and dime and quarter tipping in my days, but these days one is talking in real money.

Also, maybe I'm living in a country where tipping ( changing now ), made the people feel like they were a nothing more then a low life beggar. So tipping did not exist.

This applies to the US. Tipping culture is so prominent here that it is literally a way of life. I recently picked up a job delivering pizza's in a city that is very popular with tourists, so I can actually make a livable wage as long as people tip SOMETHING. On average is get about 4-5$ per most runs, with some tips for larger orders being up to 20$.. then I've had a few very generous people tip me quite a bit of cash to my disbelief.

I feel you should tip drivers because they are using THEIR vehicle to bring your lazy ass food. Besides, we only get comp'd .32c a mile and make 7.98/hr on the road, and 11$ an hour in store. If I weren't making tips, I'd be homeless