Online tests suggest IQ scores in US dropped for the first time in nearly a century

I took 1 single IQ test in my life and it was around 6th grade. It was administered to all kids in that grade at that time. The graph above has "in Grad school ", "college grad", and "SOME college". So these are adults of varying education levels. Which means it was NOT administered in a school setting to ALL students. So it only shows the people who took THIS test are scoring lower. I would guess MTurk or swagbucks workers took these tests from the "some college" option they picked. The woke crap has to go, but I don't think it's been around long enough to make Grad Students dumber.

And I always thought IQ was not a measure of knowledge, but of potential. Which is why the tests are given at 6th grade. And you can't change it, it's a measurement akin to how many folds you have in your brain. Our education system is to blame for quite a bit, just not this.
a reply to: Mahogany

Computers are making us mentally lazy.
Let kids have them at age 4 and voila!
Dumber, dumber and dumberer even.

a reply to: kwakakev

What we witnessed In 2020 was not a worldwide pandemic but a worldwide IQ test
And compliance test

People are not learning much of anything, its all instant gratification "I R InFluenCer" type thinking.

*shrugs* studying stem takes work, and time... thats so old way of thinking ok boomer.

Man those people are going to lose their snip when a third of our power generation goes away and you get rolling blocks of time where you will have no power.

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Hopefully they're not going to start forcefully sterilising people (again).

Author Stephen Murdoch describes how IQ testing was used as justification for eugenics programs in Nazi Germany and the United States.

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originally posted by: Creep Thumper
a reply to: Mahogany

We're getting dumber because we're teaching all that gender racial crap instead of reading, writing and arithmetic.

Too many immigrants who know read or write right.

originally posted by: karl 12
a reply to: Mahogany

Hopefully they're not going to start forcefully sterilising people (again).

Author Stephen Murdoch describes how IQ testing was used as justification for eugenics programs in Nazi Germany and the United States.

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The Covid vaccine has a role in that, though it's not clear what type of DNA is being targeted for sperm reduction.

originally posted by: ketsuko
They don't want us smart. They want us dumb. It's less embarrassing to them that way.

They want you smart enough to do what they want, but dumb enough to remain in a position where you have to.

And "them" don't care about embarrassment me thinks.

Didn`t you read the memo , PFOS and PFOA aka forever chemicals are effecting just about all people. It`s neurotoxic also, and it seem like it decreases dopamine ?

Dopamine is what is needed for attention .


What the brain really thinks about forever chemicals

I took an online IQ test once.

It was pretty stupid.

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
I took an online IQ test once.

It was pretty stupid.

Best answer!

I have a high IQ (according to the tests), but I don't believe in these tests because true intelligence is so much more than what these tests are about.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Mahogany

Sorry, I was going to care, and then I got pinged by about 10 notifications on my phone ...



Seriously, you want to know why we're dumb? We have no attention span. You want to know why we have no attention span? See above.

I thought you were going to say it was planned by the Democrats.

It was, they've infiltrated the fabric of everything.

But this, this is from the Covid-19 vaccine, Pfizer. There was some other companies but Pfizer.

The Dems did that too, they own Pfizer. The vaccine makes people turn liberal before they suddenly die.

Not just IQ… we have an accountability crisis. Nobody owns their sh#t. People are full of excuses, blame, and victimhood.

really not shocking as we have pivoted back to received faith as guiding principles which sees the learned refuse to question faith and reject the basics then what is taught doesn't advance anything.. indeed we could discuss how such a pivoted might roll back the world into a simpler ages when no one knew anything bar that taught them by the priests.

a reply to: Mahogany

As someone with an IQ around a B+ (87 or 88) I feel that I am qualified to be a subject matter expert on this ( as discussed on my Only Fans page) and can offer some explanations.

Primarily, since the inception of the Dept of Education, education levels have dropped.

This is no accident.

It's easier to control and manipulate a stupid population than an educated one.

Abolish the Department of Education, let individual states take responsibility, because the federal government has screwed things up so badly it'd take generations to solve the damage.

its simple, when people have plenty they lose the biological need to outsmart others or figure out solutions to survival problems, so the brain adapts to stop wasting energy on unnecessary processing power, because nature is about energy efficiency therefore if you dont use it you lose it.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Mahogany

Sorry, I was going to care, and then I got pinged by about 10 notifications on my phone ...

Seriously, you want to know why we're dumb? We have no attention span. You want to know why we have no attention span? See above.

Attention span does not tell you how high some ones IQ is.
people whith high IQs will do things faster than low IQ people.

You can teach some to help up some ones IQ.
but Not much. you just have it.
How many mothers have more Vits & minrals when pregnant?
a great deal of people dont have the ioden and iron they need.
and wounder why they have bad health!

the human brain is the same.
mothers who use powder milk for babys put tap water in it!!
the Bad chemicals in the water are Very bad for babys.

Perhaps the ICAR tests have been changed slowly over the decades to show what the testers want it to show.

I can tell you now, the tests, all IQ tests have been systematically altered over time. Find the alterations and you will discover what attributes they now test for as opposed to older tests.

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originally posted by: nickyw
really not shocking as we have pivoted back to received faith as guiding principles which sees the learned refuse to question faith and reject the basics then what is taught doesn't advance anything.. ...

I guess you've never googled: religion decline us

Then again, adherence to another religion has replaced it, and is usually not considered (counted) in the type of statistical studies or polls you will find if you do the google search above.

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As soon as modern science was born in the 17th century, ... Spectacular scientific breakthroughs enveloped science in a halo of infallibility and authority, producing scientism, a religion in itself, a sacred cow. ...

Source: Part 19—17th to 19th century—Christendom Grapples With World Change (Religion’s Future in View of Its Past)

Part 4: Revival of Science by Revolution (Science​—Mankind’s Ongoing Search for Truth)

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Villains Darken the Path

Pseudosciences also flourished, like villains whose incorrect theories stood in the way of genuine scientific advancement. ...

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So although villains, the phlogiston theory and alchemy were not without redeeming value. Not so, however, the human villains who because of religious persuasion fostered antiscientific attitudes. ...

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... Less than a hundred years later, Italian astronomer Galileo Galilei through telescopes made observations that convinced him that the Copernican hypothesis of an earth revolving around the sun was indeed true. But the Catholic Church rejected Galileo’s views as heretical and forced him to recant.

Religious errors had caused church theologians to deny scientific truth. Not until almost 360 years later did the church clear Galileo. L’Osservatore Romano, in its weekly edition of November 4, 1992, acknowledged “subjective error of judgement” in the case against Galileo.

Villains Still Exist

Likewise, in this 20th century, the religions of Christendom display a similar disrespect for truth. This they do by giving preference to unproved scientific theories in the face of truth, both scientific and religious. The best example is the unprovable theory of evolution, basically the illegitimate offspring of seriously flawed scientific “knowledge” and false religious teachings.* [*: One such teaching is the Fundamentalist idea that the creation “week” mentioned in Genesis is a series of literal 24-hour days. The Bible indicates they were in reality periods amounting to many thousands of years.]

Charles Darwin published his book On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection on November 24, 1859. But the idea of evolution actually stems from pre-Christian times. For example, Greek philosopher Aristotle pictured man at the top of a line evolving from lower animal life.

Youtube playlist with additional historical background (backdrop) regarding that last point there: The Pagan Religious Roots of Evolutionary Philosophies and Philosophical Naturalism (part 1 of 2)

Continuing with the article cause I want to get to the part about scientism, but I didn't want to skip that example:

At first, clergymen rejected Darwin’s theory, but The Book of Popular Science notes: “Evolution [later] became something more than a scientific theory . . . It became a battle cry and even a philosophy.” The idea of survival of the fittest appealed to people striving to get to the top of the ladder.

Clergy resistance soon withered. The Encyclopedia of Religion says that “Darwin’s theory of evolution achieved not merely acceptance but resounding acclaim,” and that “by the time of his death in 1883, most thoughtful and articulate clergy had worked their way to the conclusion that evolution was wholly compatible with an enlightened understanding of scripture.”

This despite the following admission by The Book of Popular Science: “Even the firmest supporters of the doctrine of organic evolution had to concede that there were glaring inaccuracies and gaps in Darwin’s original theory.” Saying that “much of Darwin’s original theory has been revamped or discarded,” the book nevertheless says that evolution’s “influence upon almost every field of human activity has been very great. History, archaeology and ethnology have undergone profound changes because of the theory.”

Today, many thoughtful scientists seriously question the theory of evolution. Sir Fred Hoyle, founder of the Cambridge Institute of Theoretical Astronomy and associate member of the American National Academy of Sciences, wrote some ten years ago: “Personally, I have little doubt that scientific historians of the future will find it mysterious that a theory which could be seen to be unworkable came to be so widely believed.”

Striking as it does at the very basis of human existence, evolution robs the Creator of his due. It also belies its claim to be scientific and does no credit to mankind’s ongoing search for scientific truth. Karl Marx was glad to embrace evolution and ‘survival of the fittest’ to bolster the rise of Communism. But evolution is a villain of the vilest kind.

Who Are the Victims?

Anyone misled into believing pseudoscientific theories becomes a victim. But even believing scientific truths poses a danger. The spectacular scientific advances resulting from the scientific revolution deceived many into believing that now nothing was beyond reach.

This belief was intensified as scientific progress continued to erode the antiscientific attitude false religion had once fostered. Commerce and politics began recognizing science as a powerful tool to be used in achieving their goals, be it monetary reward or consolidation of political power.

Clearly stated, science was slowly developing into a god, giving rise to scientism. Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary defines this as “an exaggerated trust in the efficacy of the methods of natural science applied to all areas of investigation.”

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a reply to: whereislogic

As the Bible predicted:

“For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the wholesome* [Or “healthful; beneficial.”] teaching, but according to their own desires, they will surround themselves with teachers to have their ears tickled.* [Or “to tell them what they want to hear.”] They will turn away from listening to the truth and give attention to false stories.”* [KJ: “myths”] (2 Timothy 4:3,4)

Evolution—Myths and Facts

“So we should no longer be children, tossed about as by waves and carried here and there by every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in deceptive schemes.” (Ephesians 4:14)

Knowledge (Insight on the Scriptures, Volume 2)

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Knowledge (gno'sis) is put in a very favorable light in the Christian Greek Scriptures. However, not all that men may call “knowledge” is to be sought, because philosophies and views exist that are “falsely called ‘knowledge.’” (1Ti 6:20) ...
... Thus Paul wrote about some who were learning (taking in knowledge) “yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge [...] of truth.” (2Ti 3:6, 7)

“Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you, turning away from the empty speeches that violate what is holy and from the contradictions of the falsely called ‘knowledge.’* [Latin: scientia; KJ: “science”; Gk: gno'sis] By making a show of such knowledge, some have deviated from the faith.” (1Ti 6:20)

Fraud in Science​—Why It’s on the Increase (Awake!—1990)
Fraud in Science​—A Greater Fraud

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“EVOLUTION is a fact.” This is the standard confession of faith that assures the scientific community of your orthodoxy. And for public consumption, the claim is often added: ‘It has been proved so often that there is no longer a need to repeat the proof.’ Very convenient, especially since the evolutionist has no proof to repeat. Yet, for years the statement has been made again and again, like some mystical chant: “Evolution is a fact.”

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Fraud in Science​—The Greatest Fraud of All

Evolutionists say: ‘Evolution is a fact; God is a myth.’ They have proof for neither, but prejudice needs no proof.

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Molecular biologist Michael Denton writes in Evolution: A Theory in Crisis, page 250: “Molecular biology has shown that even the simplest of all living systems on earth today, bacterial cells, are exceedingly complex objects. Although the tiniest bacterial cells are incredibly small, weighing less than [one trillionth of a gram], each is in effect a veritable micro-​miniaturized factory containing thousands of exquisitely designed pieces of intricate molecular machinery, made up altogether of one hundred thousand million atoms, far more complicated than any machine built by man and absolutely without parallel in the non-​living world.

Molecular Machinery of Life (same playlist as previous comment)

“Molecular biology has also shown that the basic design of the cell system is essentially the same in all living systems on earth from bacteria to mammals. In all organisms the roles of DNA, mRNA and protein are identical. The meaning of the genetic code is also virtually identical in all cells. The size, structure and component design of the protein synthetic machinery is practically the same in all cells. In terms of their basic biochemical design, therefore no living system can be thought of as being primitive or ancestral with respect to any other system, nor is there the slightest empirical hint of an evolutionary sequence among all the incredibly diverse cells on earth.”

George Greenstein acknowledges all this intelligence involved in the earth’s structure. In his book The Symbiotic Universe, he speaks of the mysterious and incredible series of coincidences that are beyond explaining, coincidences without which life on earth would be impossible. The following statements, appearing throughout pages 21-8, reflect his agonizing over conditions that bespeak the need for an intelligent and purposeful God:

“I believe that we are faced with a mystery​—a great and profound mystery, and one of immense significance: the mystery of the habitability of the cosmos, of the fitness of the environment.” He sets out “to detail what can only seem to be an astonishing sequence of stupendous and unlikely accidents that paved the way for life’s emergence.# [Distances between stars; resonance of subatomic particles and atoms to form carbon; equal and opposite charges of electron and proton; unique and anomalous properties of water; frequencies of sunlight and absorption frequencies required for photosynthesis; the separation between sun and earth; three dimensions of space, no more, no less; and others.] There is a list of coincidences, all of them essential to our existence.” Yet “the list kept getting longer . . . So many coincidences! The more I read, the more I became convinced that such ‘coincidences’ could hardly have happened by chance.” A shattering fact for an evolutionist to face up to, as he next acknowledges:

“But as this conviction grew, something else grew as well. Even now it is difficult to express this ‘something’ in words. It was an intense revulsion, and at times it was almost physical in nature. I would positively squirm with discomfort. The very thought that the fitness of the cosmos for life might be a mystery requiring solution struck me as ludicrous, absurd. I found it difficult to entertain the notion without grimacing in disgust . . . Nor has this reaction faded over the years: I have had to struggle against it incessantly during the writing of this book. I am sure that the same reaction is at work within every other scientist, and that it is this which accounts for the widespread indifference accorded the idea at present. And more than that: I now believe that what appears as indifference in fact masks an intense antagonism.”

What antagonism? Antagonism to the thought that the explanation might lie in a purposeful Creator. As Greenstein expresses it: “As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency​—or, rather, Agency—​must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially drafted the cosmos for our benefit?” But Greenstein recovers from such heretical thinking and reasserts his orthodoxy to the evolutionary religion, reciting one of their creedal dogmas: “God is not an explanation.”

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Demonstrating his adherence to scientism, its adherents having a tendency to conflate philosophical naturalism with science and methodological naturalism (the same philosophy) with the scientific method.

“Look out that no one takes you captive by means of the philosophy and empty deception according to human tradition, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ;” “We have much to say about him, and it is difficult to explain, because you have become dull in your hearing. For although by now* [Lit., “in view of the time.”] you should be teachers, you again need someone to teach you from the beginning the elementary things of the sacred pronouncements of God, and you have gone back to needing milk, not solid food. For everyone who continues to feed on milk is unacquainted with the word of righteousness, for he is a young child. But solid food belongs to mature people, to those who through use have their powers of discernment* [Or “their perceptive powers.”] trained to distinguish both right and wrong.” (Col 2:8; Hebrews 5:11-14)