Where are we From conspiracy to reality

I wanted to get a general idea of what all we have out there as far as UAP/UFO/Alien conspiracies that we do still have in play.
In my lifetime I've seen people who believed in UFOs called things like "conspiracy nutbags," "crazy," "off their meds or too much meds" type identifiers (slanders), and now we are up to, "um, yeah, we've been seeing stuff for a long time too. Here, here's all the stuff we have on "UFO's." But hey, we put such a bad stigma on those who both believed and saw things in the sky that we're gonna call em "UAP's" now. mkayyyy
Conspiracy became reality.
People weren't as stupid as they thought (said) they were.
I've been here on ATS for a year now I think, and I don't see many new alien conspiracies, or more info on old conspiracies as I thought I would. So, I wanted to step up to the mic here and sort of get a collaborative of the (good) conspiracies we do still have in play.

Just wondering where we're at now, being that "crazy" turned out to be reality, but I've seen that before.

So what all do we have in play?
Alien/UFO only

(And forgive my ignorance. That's why I've asked. I've looked thru the forums
and older posts, but not seeing anything sticking out and wanted to know the conspiracies still in play, not debunked theories)

a reply to: AOx6179

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: AOx6179

I watched twenty seconds of the second vid and I can already tell you that, that's where I'm at, personally with it. Or, what I believe. And they actually know it too, and will cover it up with the hollywood version alien intro soon.

Thanks for the vids.

a reply to: AOx6179

rumble.com...

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: AOx6179

rumble.com...

We're fishin in the same river.

I do, however see the possibility of life on other planets. I bet there are planets out there pretty much exactly like this one, and others are habitable but completely different. The possibilities are infinite. However, I think things are spaced too far apart for anything to travel those distances of space and time to go from planet to planet. Unless of course it's a super advanced species of intelligent life; as it has been predicted. That's one possiblity, sure. But the odds of them finding us? Literally astronomical.
But I do, personally believe there is other life out there. The odds of that are also astronomical.

a reply to: AOx6179

Mind over matter is pretty much settled science on the fringes but can't have the sheep dable in those art not with their retarded minds.

So yeah reality... It's a funny word... Projector brains doing what they do best...

a reply to: AOx6179

When the aliens finally announce themselves formally to the world, is there a possibility that Christians in particular that are convinced it will be demons in disguise are able to change their minds and just regard them as extraterrestrials?

If the majority of the 2.2 billion Christians in the world automatically dismiss visitors from outer space as demons how will first contact go over?

Ultimately I'm asking is there any form of discernment that will be applied to the situation or simply a knee-jerk reaction?

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: AOx6179

When the aliens finally announce themselves formally to the world, is there a possibility that Christians in particular that are convinced it will be demons in disguise are able to change their minds and just regard them as extraterrestrials?

If the majority of the 2.2 billion Christians in the world automatically dismiss visitors from outer space as demons how will first contact go over?

Ultimately I'm asking is there any form of discernment that will be applied to the situation or simply a knee-jerk reaction?

I'm only speaking for myself here, of course. For me it would be a discernment thing. If they started to lead us, then it's 'where and to what are they leading us to' type discernment. Feel it out, so to speak. I'd be suspicious, but am always keeping an open mind.
I don't think (IMO) the vast majority (not all) of baby boomer Christians would accept aliens from another planet (even if that's exactly what they were) and think something like they're demons. But I think most of your gen x Christians would be much . more open (if not completely) to the possibilities and even an actuality of it.

Even though it's what I think it is (or will be) I'm still operating under conspiracy since I have no hard evidence of God, or what I claim. The nephilim theory just happens to be my "conspiracy theory." Until maybe one day, conspiracy will become reality. One way or another, we'll see.

I think it would be awesome to have alien visitors/contact. I've always been into it.



Ps. If you would, give me a brief summary of what you think will go down. You stated "when" the aliens do finally announce themselves. So what's your theory that you're vibin on?

a reply to: AOx6179

Idk. I heard disclosure is around the corner and they're super cereals this time. Just feels like a modern public relations thing to me.

I find ufology to be too serious and too defining, a bit like humans. Given our traits it's probably best their isn't any kind of disclosure, they could be human and they'd be far too different to be accepted by everyone.

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That's a well thought out reply, much appreciated.


I say when because even looking at MSM UFO reporting has become the norm.

Imagine that.

A decade or so ago we still had no real idea if it would happen in our lifetime but these days there's something about UAP's every single week.

Which should be exciting but with the way MSM completely trashed their own reputation for a fistful of dollars and at the expense of human health these past few years, the Ukraine sham, the US election, anti-whiteism, globalism etc it is with apprehension that I view this move towards openness about UFO's because it is occurring in a controlled release fashion by the very people and institutions that broke our trust completely and have still not stopped gaslighting us over just about any important conversation.

With the reverse engineering that's taken place coupled with other technologies such as holograms that you are able to touch it becomes a veritable minefield of deception that depending on how it plays out could be anything.

For me, if it benefits the elite in any way shape or form at the expense of the people, I'm going to see where my intuition leads but very likely I will call bs.

For religious folk, anything that threatens their belief system and they are going to call bs.

If they come in peace, not to live among us because which aliens in their right mind would want that, but to share technology that would end poverty, hunger and the need for war and give us guidance on how to live less destructive in all things considered I would be open to them having a reason for contacting us in the first place, out of sheer 'neighborly' goodwill.

I don't believe the human race would accept any other outcome.

In fact, they shouldn't in my opinion do or say anything that forcefully challenges religious belief because the majority of the human race is too invested in their faith and blunt rejection through revelation would be too painful a process to handle for the Abrahamic religions which make up the majority of people's beliefs, but also other religious beliefs.

Like thrusting an Amazonian tribe into the middle of Central Park the results would be disastrous and something a benevolent species should have factored into their calculations before establishing contact.

It should be OK to still maintain your faith.

It should be OK to still maintain lack of faith.

It should be OK to understand their faith, if any, is still just that.

Within such a space we could all still be in awe at contact and marvel at a restructured society that has no entrenched elites that dominate us.


For sure a tall order but anything less and I envision chaos.

Everybody should be allowed to grow spiritually at their own pace and in their own direction but ultimate it should be beneficial and in harmony.


Our so-called leaders should not be a factor in shaping any kind of narrative, since they have shown zero goodwill towards the people they pretend to represent these past few years.

a reply to: AOx6179

What we got is a lot of bs and by far not enough unquestionable data.
We got the strong suspicion we should know more, but as it is there's no reliable source for any data.
Or any set comprehensive enough to be of use.
Also everybody attempting to find creative ways to look for stuff outside the normal lenses (pun intended) still gets ridiculed. I just did it too (unintended).

What I would think the only real conclusion one can make is: UFO experiences tend to # the people having them up.
There's a huge psychological aspect to it, after or leading to UFO experiences.
Synchronicities are a symptom of that hightened capability to 'communicate'.

But aside from that we really still got nothing.

originally posted by: AOx6179

So what all do we have in play?
Alien/UFO only

I been following the whole UFO phenomenon for about 50 years now and the problem I have is as technology has increased at rather huge levels we basically do not have anymore than what we did in the 50s. This has lead me to believe it has all been a human construct fueled by just our imagination sorry to say...

BODY LANGUAGE - FORMER CIA DIRECTOR JOHN BRENNAN ON UFOS

From John;s perspective, there is a form of life out there that we do not fully understand. As for what is really going on in that head of his, looks like a troubled place.

So what all do we have in play? Alien/UFO only

With the physical aspects of life, we are finding it in many extreme environments. It may not be as sophisticated as what is generally present on the surface of Earth, but the basic building blocks are finding some way to work together.

As for some of the more mental and spiritual aspects of life, who knows where the limits of that ends?

originally posted by: kwakakev
With the physical aspects of life, we are finding it in many extreme environments. It may not be as sophisticated as what is generally present on the surface of Earth, but the basic building blocks are finding some way to work together.

As for some of the more mental and spiritual aspects of life, who knows where the limits of that ends?

It is pretty safe to say that life is out there but when we define what that life will be then it drastically reduces the chances of what we define. If we think about it.... earth is like a motherload of life possibilities and in 4.5 billion years only one life form has gone to the moon. 4.5 billion years is about half the age of what we would call the current universe since in the first 5 billions years it was a very chaotic place and life in general needs some stability. So what does this tell us when a place like earth was very lucky to ever create a lifeform that could leave its surface in 4.5 billion years and we might just disappear as fast as we came.

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earth is like a motherload of life possibilities and in 4.5 billion years only one life form has gone to the moon.

That we know about so far. Why would a bunch of people still in the stone age build a massive structure that lines up with the Orion constellation? Looks more like an interstellar sign post from here. Plenty of other weird stuff around that don't quite fit with our official version of history. The Inca lines in Peru is another. To think someone made these without some form of flight does not add up.

From some reports, the Moon is older than the Earth. Still a lot of questions and things yet to be defined about it.

a reply to: AOx6179

As someone that has undergone an UFO abduction some decades ago and witnessed with about twenty others a huge triangle flyover inn 1998, I sit here shaking my head in disbelief at the basic ignorance and lack of acceptance of many of my fellow humans.
Most of us grew up with schools, religions and scientists telling us that the Universe was entirely our domain. We were IT! Nowhere else in the Universe was there a challenge to our supremacy. There were no prior ancient civilizations on Earth, no Martians, and no entity could travel even close to the speed of light.
And dang it, along come these UFO things in 1947, etc. to literally turn our views of the Universe and most importantly, ourselves up-side-down.
Cognitive dissonance is a terrible flaw in human consciousness. It takes correct thinking for a normal mind to work around that impediment to a clear understanding of the state of...here's that word again, the Universe. We are not alone people, we are a Third World world and a second-rate intelligence. Wallow in your old beliefs about almost everything you want, but a new awakening is at hand, available to you for the mere, honest thinking.

Personally, I blame two human constructs at fault for our lack of simple understanding our state of existence: government and Science. Both have worked hand-in-glove for decades now to keep us "safe" and docile from a stark truth while strongly protecting their sacred selves.

a reply to: AOx6179

An interesting conversation

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: AOx6179

That's a well thought out reply, much appreciated.


I say when because even looking at MSM UFO reporting has become the norm.

Imagine that.

A decade or so ago we still had no real idea if it would happen in our lifetime but these days there's something about UAP's every single week.

Which should be exciting but with the way MSM completely trashed their own reputation for a fistful of dollars and at the expense of human health these past few years, the Ukraine sham, the US election, anti-whiteism, globalism etc it is with apprehension that I view this move towards openness about UFO's because it is occurring in a controlled release fashion by the very people and institutions that broke our trust completely and have still not stopped gaslighting us over just about any important conversation.

With the reverse engineering that's taken place coupled with other technologies such as holograms that you are able to touch it becomes a veritable minefield of deception that depending on how it plays out could be anything.

For me, if it benefits the elite in any way shape or form at the expense of the people, I'm going to see where my intuition leads but very likely I will call bs.

For religious folk, anything that threatens their belief system and they are going to call bs.

If they come in peace, not to live among us because which aliens in their right mind would want that, but to share technology that would end poverty, hunger and the need for war and give us guidance on how to live less destructive in all things considered I would be open to them having a reason for contacting us in the first place, out of sheer 'neighborly' goodwill.

I don't believe the human race would accept any other outcome.

In fact, they shouldn't in my opinion do or say anything that forcefully challenges religious belief because the majority of the human race is too invested in their faith and blunt rejection through revelation would be too painful a process to handle for the Abrahamic religions which make up the majority of people's beliefs, but also other religious beliefs.

Like thrusting an Amazonian tribe into the middle of Central Park the results would be disastrous and something a benevolent species should have factored into their calculations before establishing contact.

It should be OK to still maintain your faith.

It should be OK to still maintain lack of faith.

It should be OK to understand their faith, if any, is still just that.

Within such a space we could all still be in awe at contact and marvel at a restructured society that has no entrenched elites that dominate us.


For sure a tall order but anything less and I envision chaos.

Everybody should be allowed to grow spiritually at their own pace and in their own direction but ultimate it should be beneficial and in harmony.


Our so-called leaders should not be a factor in shaping any kind of narrative, since they have shown zero goodwill towards the people they pretend to represent these past few years.

Stellar reply.

For me, if it benefits the elite in any way shape or form at the expense of the people, I'm going to see where my intuition leads but very likely I will call bs.

Agreed. That will be a big tell.

In fact, they shouldn't in my opinion do or say anything that forcefully challenges religious belief because the majority of the human race is too invested in their faith and blunt rejection through revelation would be too painful a process to handle for the Abrahamic religions which make up the majority of people's beliefs, but also other religious beliefs.

it would be very interesting as to what they (aliens) would have to say about God. That would be a major one for the world.

I think the popular answer is 3 months, give or take.

originally posted by: ketsuko
I think the popular answer is 3 months, give or take.

3 months for/till? Elaborate, I'm very interested in your theory here.